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Lakers_Jester
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| anpherknee wrote: | https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/733703023667478533
we need analysis of the form in the second pic guise  |
That shot will most definitely be off. His hand position on his shooting arm is off and his toes are pointed too much in the wrong direction. |
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| Gatekeeper wrote: | | That's Tracy Murray with him, right? |
yeah. Don't have too much confidence in Tracy rn, hoping to be proven wrong |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| Lakers_Jester wrote: | | anpherknee wrote: | https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/733703023667478533
we need analysis of the form in the second pic guise |
That shot will most definitely be off. His hand position on his shooting arm is off and his toes are pointed too much in the wrong direction. |
His feet are fine? He's left handed so |
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I think Randle and Simmons together is a nightmare for opposing teams. Not every team has crazy shooting at the 4 and 5. I also think Julius and Simmons shooting woes are a bit overstated. Just need to make sure you have shooting on the wings. Defensively both are extremely agile. I don't think it would take much to improve the Defensive side of the ball. It's a great problem to have in my eyes.
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:54 am Post subject: |
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| Snaq O'Meal888 wrote: | Lets say Lakers get Simmons. Randle and Simmons skills overlap. So possibly trade Randle?
If so what is the trade value for Randle?
At this point I would keep both and see how Randle develops. Or perhaps move Randle to Center and play both Randle and Simmons. |
No, work on both of their shots and defense and then unleash that beast on the NBA.
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| misterrunon wrote: | | Simmons and Randle just can't work.. they're both similar players. Can't shoot and not known for defense. |
And we all know that players never improve after the age of 20.
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:56 am Post subject: |
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| 22 wrote: | | Gatekeeper wrote: | | That's Tracy Murray with him, right? |
yeah. Don't have too much confidence in Tracy rn, hoping to be proven wrong |
Why would you not have confidence in Murray?
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| anpherknee wrote: | https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/733703023667478533
we need analysis of the form in the second pic guise |
well, it's a set shot.. probably not a game-speed shot |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:17 pm Post subject: |
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| People need to give Murray time to work with Randle. Its going to take time and patience to develop a reliable jumper. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Cochese wrote: | | People need to give Murray time to work with Randle. Its going to take time and patience to develop a reliable jumper. |
Patience? There's no such thing! |
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| I have nothing against Murray I just wish wish the Lakers splurged on an elite shooting coach with a proven track record of improving players' shooting |
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| audioaxes wrote: | | I have nothing against Murray I just wish wish the Lakers splurged on an elite shooting coach with a proven track record of improving players' shooting |
Agreed. We will see the results this season and whether he should be replaced. |
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You do know where they got Tracy Murray, right?
"FROM THE PARKING LOT!!!"
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Snaq O'Meal888 wrote: | Lets say Lakers get Simmons. Randle and Simmons skills overlap. So possibly trade Randle?
If so what is the trade value for Randle?
At this point I would keep both and see how Randle develops. Or perhaps move Randle to Center and play both Randle and Simmons. |
No, work on both of their shots and defense and then unleash that beast on the NBA. |
Part of me has my sights set on Brandon Ingram but thinking about having Randle and Simmons on the floor together (in a few years with an improved shot) kind of has me drooling at the possibilities.
If they can move the ball and not be ball dominant.. my gosh that's an interesting duo. Is there another 4 / 5 combo (I'd assume Simmons would be a center even though he doesn't have the length necessary to be a shot blocker) in the NBA that would have those skills? |
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people keep talking about simmons playing the 5 position.
what about getting julius play at 5 instead? 5s cant outrebound him, cant really push him on the block, he is quick enough against small ball 5, the only bad thing is his short arms which is virtually the same as ben simmons. thoughts? |
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| I think in that scenario people by default put Simmons at the 5 because he's taller than Randle. Or at least, that's what I assume. |
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| Because Simmons is a lot longer than Randle(reach) and in the same weight range. If Randle's defensive motor improves then he would be intriguing at the 5 for stretches. |
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The Gr8 Lakes wrote: | | I think Randle and Simmons together is a nightmare for opposing teams. Not every team has crazy shooting at the 4 and 5. I also think Julius and Simmons shooting woes are a bit overstated. Just need to make sure you have shooting on the wings. Defensively both are extremely agile. I don't think it would take much to improve the Defensive side of the ball. It's a great problem to have in my eyes. |
what happens if we run this line up
PG.d'angelo
SG.clarkson
SF.barnes
PF.simmons
C.randle
lets say simmons and randle set a double screen for d'angelo or clarkson who before this season was a P/R killer. How can you defend that? Barnes and clarkson on the wings.
If their J's become an spacing problem you plug nance in until one of randle or simmons figures it out. That team would keep up with 3 pointers and transition opportunities. |
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You put Randle on LSU as a freshman, instead of Kentucky, does he look as good as Simmons?
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| ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Snaq O'Meal888 wrote: | Lets say Lakers get Simmons. Randle and Simmons skills overlap. So possibly trade Randle?
If so what is the trade value for Randle?
At this point I would keep both and see how Randle develops. Or perhaps move Randle to Center and play both Randle and Simmons. |
No, work on both of their shots and defense and then unleash that beast on the NBA. |
Part of me has my sights set on Brandon Ingram but thinking about having Randle and Simmons on the floor together (in a few years with an improved shot) kind of has me drooling at the possibilities.
If they can move the ball and not be ball dominant.. my gosh that's an interesting duo. Is there another 4 / 5 combo (I'd assume Simmons would be a center even though he doesn't have the length necessary to be a shot blocker) in the NBA that would have those skills? |
I think it would be something that the NBA has never seen before.
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Because Simmons is a lot longer than Randle(reach) and in the same weight range. If Randle's defensive motor improves then he would be intriguing at the 5 for stretches. |
A quarter inch longer reach
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| LakerSanity wrote: | | You put Randle on LSU as a freshman, instead of Kentucky, does he look as good as Simmons? |
Don't think so. Just from watching highlights Simmons is a far more dynamic player.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Because Simmons is a lot longer than Randle(reach) and in the same weight range. If Randle's defensive motor improves then he would be intriguing at the 5 for stretches. |
A quarter inch longer reach |
No that's wingspan, standing reach he has a 2.5.
Plus more vert to protect the rim |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Because Simmons is a lot longer than Randle(reach) and in the same weight range. If Randle's defensive motor improves then he would be intriguing at the 5 for stretches. |
A quarter inch longer reach |
No that's wingspan, standing reach he has a 2.5.
Plus more vert to protect the rim |
I was wrong on the wingspan anyway, I gave Julius an extra inch. My memory is going.
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