I never understood why NBA players would want to play in a crappy competition like the drew league. There has to be countless other ways to get conditioning and skill development.
I had no doubts that your post would generate responses. There's some of us on the board that will defend it because it's not a crappy league. Its a neighborhood institution that our community needs. It's an outlet for both players and fans alike.
The people that run it are long time community minded residents. The appeal is to get a little ball in, entertain a demographic of people who need every resource we're seeking to provide for them, and this is the part I'd really like to help you grasp (not trying to be an ass) it keeps a lot of the community focused on a positive experience right where it's desperately needed.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 12:11 pm Post subject:
pio2u wrote:
The Drew league is a "fun & entertaining league." There are some very good players and the competition is real but it's also every man for himself; it's definitely a showcase of individual talent and skills.
Harden, Swaggy, Crawford are all scorers so they will naturally be successful in this environment.
Good, competitive, in your face basketball.
It's Rucker Park inside of a gym.
I am surprised that NBA contracts don't ban playing in exhibitions like that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I never understood why NBA players would want to play in a crappy competition like the drew league. There has to be countless other ways to get conditioning and skill development.
I had no doubts that your post would generate responses. There's some of us on the board that will defend it because it's not a crappy league. Its a neighborhood institution that our community needs. It's an outlet for both players and fans alike.
The people that run it are long time community minded residents. The appeal is to get a little ball in, entertain a demographic of people who need every resource we're seeking to provide for them, and this is the part I'd really like to help you grasp (not trying to be an ass) it keeps a lot of the community focused on a positive experience right where it's desperately needed.
I never understood why NBA players would want to play in a crappy competition like the drew league. There has to be countless other ways to get conditioning and skill development.
I had no doubts that your post would generate responses. There's some of us on the board that will defend it because it's not a crappy league. Its a neighborhood institution that our community needs. It's an outlet for both players and fans alike.
The people that run it are long time community minded residents. The appeal is to get a little ball in, entertain a demographic of people who need every resource we're seeking to provide for them, and this is the part I'd really like to help you grasp (not trying to be an ass) it keeps a lot of the community focused on a positive experience right where it's desperately needed.
It's more than basketball LG!
Well said.
Indeed . _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime."
I never understood why NBA players would want to play in a crappy competition like the drew league. There has to be countless other ways to get conditioning and skill development.
I had no doubts that your post would generate responses. There's some of us on the board that will defend it because it's not a crappy league. Its a neighborhood institution that our community needs. It's an outlet for both players and fans alike.
The people that run it are long time community minded residents. The appeal is to get a little ball in, entertain a demographic of people who need every resource we're seeking to provide for them, and this is the part I'd really like to help you grasp (not trying to be an ass) it keeps a lot of the community focused on a positive experience right where it's desperately needed.
It's more than basketball LG!
Well said.
Indeed .
I see the Drew League, it's presence and it's impact, from the inside out having lived in the center of the "revolt" or a"riots" in the 60's, and having been within eyesight of burning buildings in 92.
Without the presence of these positive contributors, the seeds of revolt deepen. I'm working to plant different seeds, and my boy DS over there, is a neighborhood icon doing the same thing. Appreciate it ya'll.
I never understood why NBA players would want to play in a crappy competition like the drew league. There has to be countless other ways to get conditioning and skill development.
I had no doubts that your post would generate responses. There's some of us on the board that will defend it because it's not a crappy league. Its a neighborhood institution that our community needs. It's an outlet for both players and fans alike.
The people that run it are long time community minded residents. The appeal is to get a little ball in, entertain a demographic of people who need every resource we're seeking to provide for them, and this is the part I'd really like to help you grasp (not trying to be an ass) it keeps a lot of the community focused on a positive experience right where it's desperately needed.
The Drew league is a "fun & entertaining league." There are some very good players and the competition is real but it's also every man for himself; it's definitely a showcase of individual talent and skills.
Harden, Swaggy, Crawford are all scorers so they will naturally be successful in this environment.
Good, competitive, in your face basketball.
It's Rucker Park inside of a gym.
I am surprised that NBA contracts don't ban playing in exhibitions like that.
I think Michael Jordan was the one who changed this, with his "For the love of the game" clause in his contract
The Drew league is a "fun & entertaining league." There are some very good players and the competition is real but it's also every man for himself; it's definitely a showcase of individual talent and skills.
Harden, Swaggy, Crawford are all scorers so they will naturally be successful in this environment.
Good, competitive, in your face basketball.
It's Rucker Park inside of a gym.
I am surprised that NBA contracts don't ban playing in exhibitions like that.
I think Michael Jordan was the one who changed this, with his "For the love of the game" clause in his contract
And considering the amount of leverage a big time free agent has...yeah, good freaking gd luck getting a guy to sign a contract that says he can't play in that. Kobe said it best when asked about the Olympics. Paraphrasing what he said but it was to the effect of "guys will play regardless of whatever the (bleep) you put out there. At least playing in the Olympics there are medical professionals and coaches etc". Obviously paraphrasing but the point is still the same.
Monta forever changed his career trajectory with a stupid scooter accident and GSW still took him back despite the lies he spewed.
with the glut of PFs we have, Randle better show that he is indeed better than Nance, Deng and Yi at the 4 if he wants to keep that starting job
Exactly, I don't see his starting spot guaranteed at all. I think Nance and Deng are better basketball players currently than Jules is right now. It doesn't help that Randle is a terrible fit alongside Russell/Ingram so I wouldn't be surprised if Nance keeps forcing the Lakers coaching staff to make a move like he did last season.
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:38 am Post subject:
BynumForThree wrote:
governator wrote:
with the glut of PFs we have, Randle better show that he is indeed better than Nance, Deng and Yi at the 4 if he wants to keep that starting job
Exactly, I don't see his starting spot guaranteed at all. I think Nance and Deng are better basketball players currently than Jules is right now. It doesn't help that Randle is a terrible fit alongside Russell/Ingram so I wouldn't be surprised if Nance keeps forcing the Lakers coaching staff to make a move like he did last season.
Deng will be playing SF, I can see Yi getting minutes with Randle and/or Nance. Interesting how Laker fans underrate their own players. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
with the glut of PFs we have, Randle better show that he is indeed better than Nance, Deng and Yi at the 4 if he wants to keep that starting job
Exactly, I don't see his starting spot guaranteed at all. I think Nance and Deng are better basketball players currently than Jules is right now. It doesn't help that Randle is a terrible fit alongside Russell/Ingram so I wouldn't be surprised if Nance keeps forcing the Lakers coaching staff to make a move like he did last season.
Deng will be playing SF, I can see Yi getting minutes with Randle and/or Nance. Interesting how Laker fans underrate their own players.
Some of us are objective and don't see every one of our players as All Star talents.
Russell and Ingram are going to be stars, Randle doesn't project to be one. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone by the deadline.
with the glut of PFs we have, Randle better show that he is indeed better than Nance, Deng and Yi at the 4 if he wants to keep that starting job
Exactly, I don't see his starting spot guaranteed at all. I think Nance and Deng are better basketball players currently than Jules is right now. It doesn't help that Randle is a terrible fit alongside Russell/Ingram so I wouldn't be surprised if Nance keeps forcing the Lakers coaching staff to make a move like he did last season.
Deng will be playing SF, I can see Yi getting minutes with Randle and/or Nance. Interesting how Laker fans underrate their own players.
Some of us are objective and don't see every one of our players as All Star talents.
Russell and Ingram are going to be stars, Randle doesn't project to be one. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone by the deadline.
Amazing that you can project a player's career arc after one season.
How many teams do you offer this service to? You must make a fortune.
with the glut of PFs we have, Randle better show that he is indeed better than Nance, Deng and Yi at the 4 if he wants to keep that starting job
Exactly, I don't see his starting spot guaranteed at all. I think Nance and Deng are better basketball players currently than Jules is right now. It doesn't help that Randle is a terrible fit alongside Russell/Ingram so I wouldn't be surprised if Nance keeps forcing the Lakers coaching staff to make a move like he did last season.
Deng will be playing SF, I can see Yi getting minutes with Randle and/or Nance. Interesting how Laker fans underrate their own players.
Some of us are objective and don't see every one of our players as All Star talents.
Russell and Ingram are going to be stars, Randle doesn't project to be one. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone by the deadline.
Amazing that you can project a player's career arc after one season.
How many teams do you offer this service to? You must make a fortune.
he painted everything in a positive light. basically just commenting on highlights.. "jumper form isn't bad" "good touch, bad shot maybe, but he can make it" , "really good at drawing fouls". na.
some solid observations, but pretty much just a video to make Randle fan boys sleep soooo well at night.
Ingram, Nance and Zubac I could see. But I don't see anyone blindly loving everything about Randle or massively overrating him. If anything I think he gets underrated tbh.
Ingram, Nance and Zubac I could see. But I don't see anyone blindly loving everything about Randle or massively overrating him. If anything I think he gets underrated tbh.
I'm speaking completely on non forum/LG fans. Like comments i see on twitter. there's a lot of "Randle is the best young Laker" "Randle is going to be a top 5 PF"
I think those are the level of fans that this video best suits. LG is too knowledgeable - even the biggest Randle fans here know that he should stop shooting those flip shots, his form was HORRID last year, and he doesn't draw that many fouls.
Ingram, Nance and Zubac I could see. But I don't see anyone blindly loving everything about Randle or massively overrating him. If anything I think he gets underrated tbh.
He's gonna be good, we don't just know how good Randle is gonna be.
Ingram, Nance and Zubac I could see. But I don't see anyone blindly loving everything about Randle or massively overrating him. If anything I think he gets underrated tbh.
I'm speaking completely on non forum/LG fans. Like comments i see on twitter. there's a lot of "Randle is the best Laker idc" "Randle is going to be a top 5 PF"
I think those are the level of fans that this video best suits. LG is too knowledgeable - even the biggest Randle fans here know that he should stop shooting those flip shots, his form was HORRID last year, and he doesn't draw that many fouls.
True and agreed.
Though Randle and Nance both shot terrible last year. But the guy you only hear about mainly is Randle.
Has to do imo NOW with that Nance played in Summer League and showed an improved stroke. Randle could have benefited from the same, though I think the microscope is much much bigger on him, for obvious reason.
But stuff like the Team USA situation.
Day 1) hey! Randle is showing improvement in his form and jump shot
Day 2) It's obvious Randle hasn't worked on his jump shot at all. Bust.
Day 3) Hey Randle's been working on his step back jumpers a bit, BEAST!
Day 4) Randle will never change or get a jump shot, we should just trade him now for whoever.
Stuff like that irks me tbh. Particularly if we aren't treating all of our other young talent from the same critical eye. Unless they have some unfathomable hate on them (Such as some do with Russell) and judge them critically such as that.
So imo the only thing that will help Randle at this point is time, patience and also showing improvement.
Though part of me feels like until/unless Randle became the best player on our team and it's leader, it will be a steady diet from fans of if he has 3 solid games where his jumper looks improved he'll get credit, but if the 4th game he shoots 2/13 it will be a "see this is who he REALLY IS!" people from the crowd to jump out bring the 'trades' out again and saying he'll never develop/change a jump shot.
I do find it humorous that the same people that hate on Julius for being one dimensional and saying he'll never change at the tender age of 20 were some of the same people championing for Faried as our starting 4 in that trade scenario that came from a bad site weeks ago
But that's a separate rant altogether
As far as THIS subject goes and what you've said, I agree
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Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 3:40 pm Post subject:
Love Jules' potential, but dude has a ton of deeply-ingrained bad habits he needs to address.
It's going to take more than one or two summers to un-learn what he has learned.
But I'm so intrigued what this new offense and what Luke and the new staff can do with him to get him to simplify his game.
I'm sure it won't be very pretty at times, but it's gonna be a fun ride. _________________ Everything. Changes.
Ingram, Nance and Zubac I could see. But I don't see anyone blindly loving everything about Randle or massively overrating him. If anything I think he gets underrated tbh.
I'm speaking completely on non forum/LG fans. Like comments i see on twitter. there's a lot of "Randle is the best Laker idc" "Randle is going to be a top 5 PF"
I think those are the level of fans that this video best suits. LG is too knowledgeable - even the biggest Randle fans here know that he should stop shooting those flip shots, his form was HORRID last year, and he doesn't draw that many fouls.
True and agreed.
Though Randle and Nance both shot terrible last year. But the guy you only hear about mainly is Randle.
Has to do imo NOW with that Nance played in Summer League and showed an improved stroke. Randle could have benefited from the same, though I think the microscope is much much bigger on him, for obvious reason.
But stuff like the Team USA situation.
Day 1) hey! Randle is showing improvement in his form and jump shot
Day 2) It's obvious Randle hasn't worked on his jump shot at all. Bust.
Day 3) Hey Randle's been working on his step back jumpers a bit, BEAST!
Day 4) Randle will never change or get a jump shot, we should just trade him now for whoever.
Stuff like that irks me tbh. Particularly if we aren't treating all of our other young talent from the same critical eye. Unless they have some unfathomable hate on them (Such as some do with Russell) and judge them critically such as that.
So imo the only thing that will help Randle at this point is time, patience and also showing improvement.
Though part of me feels like until/unless Randle became the best player on our team and it's leader, it will be a steady diet from fans of if he has 3 solid games where his jumper looks improved he'll get credit, but if the 4th game he shoots 2/13 it will be a "see this is who he REALLY IS!" people from the crowd to jump out bring the 'trades' out again and saying he'll never develop/change a jump shot.
I do find it humorous that the same people that hate on Julius for being one dimensional and saying he'll never change at the tender age of 20 were some of the same people championing for Faried as our starting 4 in that trade scenario that came from a bad site weeks ago
But that's a separate rant altogether
As far as THIS subject goes and what you've said, I agree
yea the phycology behind how fans regard Julius is really intriguing to me . It's really as nuanced as it can get.
We all see special skills , but then he forces us to watch bonehead play after bonehead play - idk how to react to it myself.
He was a high pick, who'm most of us were really excited to nab. Which breeds resentment if he doesn't play up to par. Playing selfish and boneheaded also breeds resentment.
We're all mixed up in the feels. I'm actually confident that Julius in this offense, with Luke as a teacher -- will put him on a 'team ball' path that fans will take to. I think he'll pass the ball really well, and only be one skillset away from absolving himself of 'hate' being thrown his way. Whether it be shooting, or defense - add one of those to a top notch point forward passer, and you have a very beneficial player - who'm we'd all be happy to have.
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