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| dao wrote: | Sigh. That's what was bugging me about this whole situation. It makes no sense that a player needs multiple seasons to get in shape. So he was supposedly down to 245 some time in the past, the same weight he is now...and we're supposed to be optimistic...meh, let's just see what happens. I'm sick and tired about hearing his conditioning being used as an excuse though. It's time to put up or shut up.
Maybe he should start doping with Epo? |
I got cautious optimism for some Epo or regular conditioning leaps and bounds |
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Hopefully it works out this year. I remember the same rhetoric last off season |
It's not just simple physics it's biochemistry. You have different types of muscle fibers that excel at different things. The difference between a power lifter and a marathon runner isn't just their mass, it's a different type of muscle fiber. For most people it's a mixture of the different types, with everyone having varying proportions.
Some relatively light, sourced reading
He could have been working out every single day, but if he's building type IIx fibers than he's still going to get gassed.
It looks like he had too high of percentage of IIx vs IIa muscle fibers. His diet probably left a lot to be desired, and his sleep was most definitely compromised by the little one.
If his trainer is doing what I think he's doing, he's not only increasing JR's flexibility and balance but also working to create a more idealized proportion of muscle fibers. I'm not sure what that is, but the point is, there is plenty of room for stamina/conditioning growth.
And if that 10 pack is any indication his diet has been on point.
Edit: And in regards to his previous training/trainer/diet + lack of results. Well we all loved "Grass Fed" but there is a reason he isn't with the team anymore. |
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| Roon wrote: | | defense wrote: |
Hopefully it works out this year. I remember the same rhetoric last off season |
It's not just simple physics it's biochemistry. You have different types of muscle fibers that excel at different things. The difference between a power lifter and a marathon runner isn't just their mass, it's a different type of muscle fiber. For most people it's a mixture of the different types, with everyone having varying proportions.
Some relatively light, sourced reading
He could have been working out every single day, but if he's building type IIx fibers than he's still going to get gassed.
It looks like he had too high of percentage of IIx vs IIa muscle fibers. His diet probably left a lot to be desired, and his sleep was most definitely compromised by the little one.
If his trainer is doing what I think he's doing, he's not only increasing JR's flexibility and balance but also working to create a more idealized proportion of muscle fibers. I'm not sure what that is, but the point is, there is plenty of room for stamina/conditioning growth.
And if that 10 pack is any indication his diet has been on point.
Edit: And in regards to his previous training/trainer/diet + lack of results. Well we all loved "Grass Fed" but there is a reason he isn't with the team anymore. |
This and I'll post some stuff from Randle's trainer since some people seem to get convenient amnesia, when I posted an entire article about it a few pages back.
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| dao wrote: | Sigh. That's what was bugging me about this whole situation. It makes no sense that a player needs multiple seasons to get in shape. So he was supposedly down to 245 some time in the past, the same weight he is now...and we're supposed to be optimistic...meh, let's just see what happens. I'm sick and tired about hearing his conditioning being used as an excuse though. It's time to put up or shut up.
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That's where diet comes into play. Look how fast that six pack came in!!! That let's you know that the muscles were already there and covered up by a layer of fat that was only there because of a bad diet. can't outwork a bad diet
Can't be mad when you run out of gas if you fueled on junk food instead of things with nutritional value. Lonzo ball has the same issue...fantastic work ethic, in incredible shape, but looks gassed pretty easily. Don't seem like a big deal but in the pros everybody is an elite athlete, everyone is in great shape and what separates good from great can be something as simple as diet |
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | dao wrote: | Sigh. That's what was bugging me about this whole situation. It makes no sense that a player needs multiple seasons to get in shape. So he was supposedly down to 245 some time in the past, the same weight he is now...and we're supposed to be optimistic...meh, let's just see what happens. I'm sick and tired about hearing his conditioning being used as an excuse though. It's time to put up or shut up.
Maybe he should start doping with Epo? |
That's where diet comes into play. Look how fast that six pack came in!!! That let's you know that the muscles were already there and covered up by a layer of fat that was only there because of a bad diet. can't outwork a bad diet
Can't be mad when you run out of gas if you fueled on junk food instead of things with nutritional value. Lonzo ball has the same issue...fantastic work ethic, in incredible shape, but looks gassed pretty easily. Don't seem like a big deal but in the pros everybody is an elite athlete, everyone is in great shape and what separates good from great can be something as simple as diet |
I've said it multiple times in this thread, but most young players come into the league eating poorly. It usually takes them a few years to realize they gotta change their diet in order to get into peak condition. With Julius the problem was two fold, I think Grass fed had Julius on the wrong diet for his specific needs and Julius himself has admitted he could be much stricter when it came to his diet.
According to Luke the change in diet and workouts has paid off for Julius. |
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This was one month ago:
| Quote: | It all started with Julius Randle sliding into his DM’s.
Personal trainer and coined transformation specialist Amoila Cesar received a direct message from the Los Angeles Lakers forward, inquiring about transforming his body, after the season ended.
Cesar had recently transformed Johnny Stephene in 10 weeks (who most NBA fans recognize as dribble2much on Instagram), a ball-handling machine who’s worked with Kevin Durant and DeMar DeRozan, to name a few. The transformation caught Randle’s eye.
“One day a few weeks ago, Julius Randle writes me (on Instagram), and I thought it was a joke. I thought this wasn’t Julius sliding in my DMs, is he creeping me right now?” Cesar laughed. “Obviously he wasn’t…”
“When he reached out to me, the next day, he drove all the way to my location, to me. Most times, people they are kind of hesitant, this guy was there the next day. By the time he made the decision on who he wanted to work with, he was already locked in, and after we did the consultation, we were right in for our training the next day.”
At the time, Cesar wasn’t aware of the new fitness expectations announced by Lakers president of basketball operations Magic Johnson and general manager Rob Pelinka.
Randle, who was one of several Lakers in double-figures (a high 13.7 percent body fat at the end of March), got the message.
“When I met Julius, the first thing he told me was that he needed to drop weight, needed to be more explosive, and needed to be able to finish through contact. That’s one of his biggest things, dropping his body fat down, and reducing the pressure from his spine and lower back, not saying that he had any injuries or anything, but he felt heavy,” Cesar said. “When I met him, his goal was to aesthetically look better, perform better, and to really see a transformation in his body.”
Now, in his fifth week, Randle is at 8.6 percent body fat and 245 lbs. (compared to 258 lbs. at the end of the season). Cesar says the plan is for Randle to get down to 6-7 percent and stay anywhere from 240-245 lbs. Then, see how he moves.
“This will be new for him being around that weight, so it will be something he will have to learn, adjusting to that weight, being lighter on his feet. What we’re trying to do, is transition him to a much more explosive, agile player because as you know this game is changing, stretch 4s, stretch 3s, we want to make sure now he’s going against the LeBrons the Kevin Durants – these guys are the best in the game.
But, it’s much more than just a number on a machine. Randle was one of many Lakers who had his fair share of defensive struggles last season. How much was his conditioning (or lack thereof) a factor?
“Conditioning, of course,” Cesar said of looking at film of Randle last season. “I can see it on the film, you can see it in body language, as well. How often do you look to the coach? To the bench? These are minute things you pay attention to. He would say that conditioning might be one of the biggest factors, but also opening up his hips. The guy came off an injury (hip pointer last season), he was tight, his hips were very tight, I could barely stretch him his hamstrings were very tight. Every week I see this guy, he has much more hip mobility, his hamstrings are so much better. There are so many things improving that’s going to help him slide better, move across the court, be able to switch, be able to turn, fire off from all different angles, that’s going to increase his defensive presence, being able to respond, react.”
Cesar says he plans to train with Randle all the way up to the season, as much as the offseason allows with a three-pillar program that focuses on strength and conditioning, mobility (which includes rest and agility) and of course the biggest key: nutrition.
“Right now, really focusing on his diet…just like your muscles, your metabolism needs to be confused as well, also making sure that we systematically change his meal plans and the way he eats, so his body keeps moving, we want that furnace, so keep adding to that furnace.”
Randle admitted after the season, he needed to make big changes to his diet. Cesar says Randle’s even going as far as taking photos of his food to make sure it’s all in accordance with their plan.
http://www.lakersnation.com/inside-look-at-the-story-behind-lakers-julius-randles-body-transformation/2017/06/20/ |
There's a LOT MORE in the article, so I recommend ya'll check it out... again
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That's all well and good, but can he play defense and make jumpers consistently? If not, his time here will be limited.
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| Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
His issue wasn't even keeping the weight off, he came into camp every single year weighing less. He just wasn't losing enough weight as fast as he wanted.
His diet being better is a big part of everything, but I'm also convinced they had him doing the wrong types of workouts. |
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| Truck Turner wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
His issue wasn't even keeping the weight off, he came into camp every single year weighing less. He just wasn't losing enough weight as fast as he wanted.
His diet being better is a big part of everything, but I'm also convinced they had him doing the wrong types of workouts. |
Na Grassfed Tim is awesome, he's on the cutting edge of stuff and also applies all the best fundamentals. He got him down to 245lbs his rookie year.. did you see the pic of him last summer? he was completely trim, and everyone was going crazy over it. Jules said he needs to be more strict w/his diet |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Truck Turner wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
His issue wasn't even keeping the weight off, he came into camp every single year weighing less. He just wasn't losing enough weight as fast as he wanted.
His diet being better is a big part of everything, but I'm also convinced they had him doing the wrong types of workouts. |
Na Grassfed Tim is awesome, he's on the cutting edge of stuff and also applies all the best fundamentals. He got him down to 245lbs his rookie year.. did you see the pic of him last summer? he was completely trim, and everyone was going crazy over it. Jules said he needs to be more strict w/his diet |
I don't believe red meat is the cutting edge of any diet, but I won't belabor that point here.
But like I said previously
245=/=245=/=245
The Champ's 215 is different than a body builder's 215 which are both different than a shot putter's 215 which is different than my Dad's 215(eesh) and everyone above's 215 is different than a running back's 215.
If the Shot putter has always trained like the body builder, but this time he upped the consistency, intensity, frequency etc, then he's coming into his next meet/season whatever in the best shape of his life.
I could lift weights, heavy weights, 2 years straight, sleep perfect, eat great, never miss a day. I would be in the best shape of my life, no doubt. I would look fineeeeee, and if I didn't ever bulk up my calories, I'd keep my size down as well. However, if I try and run a marathon I'm gonna get my ass kicked.
Is this the case with Jules? Maybe, maybe not, but all Jules has done so far is keep improving on things people have said he couldn't improve on. |
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| Roon wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Truck Turner wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
His issue wasn't even keeping the weight off, he came into camp every single year weighing less. He just wasn't losing enough weight as fast as he wanted.
His diet being better is a big part of everything, but I'm also convinced they had him doing the wrong types of workouts. |
Na Grassfed Tim is awesome, he's on the cutting edge of stuff and also applies all the best fundamentals. He got him down to 245lbs his rookie year.. did you see the pic of him last summer? he was completely trim, and everyone was going crazy over it. Jules said he needs to be more strict w/his diet |
I don't believe red meat is the cutting edge of any diet, but I won't belabor that point here.
But like I said previously
245=/=245=/=245
The Champ's 215 is different than a body builder's 215 which are both different than a shot putter's 215 which is different than my Dad's 215(eesh) and everyone above's 215 is different than a running back's 215.
If the Shot putter has always trained like the body builder, but this time he upped the consistency, intensity, frequency etc, then he's coming into his next meet/season whatever in the best shape of his life.
I could lift weights, heavy weights, 2 years straight, sleep perfect, eat great, never miss a day. I would be in the best shape of my life, no doubt. I would look fineeeeee, and if I didn't ever bulk up my calories, I'd keep my size down as well. However, if I try and run a marathon I'm gonna get my ass kicked.
Is this the case with Jules? Maybe, maybe not, but all Jules has done so far is keep improving on things people have said he couldn't improve on. |
das a overstatement. He still sucks at those things. And Grassfed Tim is always posting about foods that lower inflammation, innovative workouts, he improved Julius' conditioning and vertical from year 1-2. He's great man, there was a quote from another team's exec, that said Tim was our biggest loss this offseason and we'll miss him.
I think fans of Julius are overreacting to others skepticism that he'll make a big leap this year. I'm just trying to be my own version of rational and realistic, I'm not trying to hate. There's both good and bad precedent that he's set, in each aspect of hopeful improvement...it's not rational for me to be completely optimistic then. |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Roon wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Truck Turner wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Obviously the key is keeping the weight off during the season/continuing the good diet - because been 245-250 going into both of his seasons.. |
His issue wasn't even keeping the weight off, he came into camp every single year weighing less. He just wasn't losing enough weight as fast as he wanted.
His diet being better is a big part of everything, but I'm also convinced they had him doing the wrong types of workouts. |
Na Grassfed Tim is awesome, he's on the cutting edge of stuff and also applies all the best fundamentals. He got him down to 245lbs his rookie year.. did you see the pic of him last summer? he was completely trim, and everyone was going crazy over it. Jules said he needs to be more strict w/his diet |
I don't believe red meat is the cutting edge of any diet, but I won't belabor that point here.
But like I said previously
245=/=245=/=245
The Champ's 215 is different than a body builder's 215 which are both different than a shot putter's 215 which is different than my Dad's 215(eesh) and everyone above's 215 is different than a running back's 215.
If the Shot putter has always trained like the body builder, but this time he upped the consistency, intensity, frequency etc, then he's coming into his next meet/season whatever in the best shape of his life.
I could lift weights, heavy weights, 2 years straight, sleep perfect, eat great, never miss a day. I would be in the best shape of my life, no doubt. I would look fineeeeee, and if I didn't ever bulk up my calories, I'd keep my size down as well. However, if I try and run a marathon I'm gonna get my ass kicked.
Is this the case with Jules? Maybe, maybe not, but all Jules has done so far is keep improving on things people have said he couldn't improve on. |
das a overstatement. He still sucks at those things. And Grassfed Tim is always posting about foods that lower inflammation, innovative workouts, he improved Julius' conditioning and vertical from year 1-2. He's great man, there was a quote from another team's exec, that said Tim was our biggest loss this offseason and we'll miss him.
I think fans of Julius are overreacting to others skepticism that he'll make a big leap this year. I'm just trying to be my own version of rational and realistic, I'm not trying to hate. There's both good and bad precedent that he's set, in each aspect of hopeful improvement...it's not rational for me to be completely optimistic then. |
Welp apparently Julius is at another level conditioning wise now. Read the above that I posted, or just listen to what Luke is saying. The kid is night and day in his conditioning and his speed right now.
You read what amoila also did for Julius with his hips, flexibility, etc and you'll see some of those minor things that can matter a lot.
You can also factor in that Julius is starting to get his man body a bit (because some people like to forget he's 22 and not 25-26).
But yeah, read the above on what Amoila was doing with Julius, it's a lot of solid things that can factor into why there is such a change in Julius this off-season as opposed to last off-seasons when it came to results.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BWs15I1gZGK/
amoila_cesar Meet @juliusrandle30 the most intense and driven competitor I know! The great Tim Grover would call him a CLEANER. When you are a cleaner you push yourself harder when everyone else has had enough, when you are in the zone you shut out everything and control the uncontrollable, and you know exactly who you are. I've watched this man grow mentally and beyond excited to see the damage he causes this season! #lakers
For the record, Kobe was also a CLEANER, and Tim Grover was his trainer. Michael Jordan and Dwyane Wade were also "CLEANER"s, and also trained by Tim Grover.
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| MJST wrote: | https://www.instagram.com/p/BWs15I1gZGK/
amoila_cesar Meet @juliusrandle30 the most intense and driven competitor I know! The great Tim Grover would call him a CLEANER. When you are a cleaner you push yourself harder when everyone else has had enough, when you are in the zone you shut out everything and control the uncontrollable, and you know exactly who you are. I've watched this man grow mentally and beyond excited to see the damage he causes this season! #lakers
For the record, Kobe was also a CLEANER, and Tim Grover was his trainer. Michael Jordan and Dwyane Wade were also "CLEANER"s, and also trained by Tim Grover. |
Oh my, great to hear. Randle really is close, but with this and added natural growth, and this type mentally to go with it, the dedication, the want and need to be as good as he can be, he could sky rocket up the list of top players....Thanks for the find...  |
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It is not practical in the long run but I think Randle, Nance & Kuzma can all co-exist at least for this year and get meaningful minutes 
I think they all bring a lot of versatility to the table. I'm a believer in Julius' shot if Luke gives the OK on him letting it fly from 3 but just unsure if he's going to improve in those other little things. I remember him surprising everyone on how much he changed his game with the start of last season though, so it'd be foolish to give up on him |
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| Julius Randle gonna be the next Kenny Omega? Sounds good to me, |
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Kuzma can exist with Randle and Ingram because he can sub in for both but yeah Nance might have to go if they decide to keep Randle.
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| MJST wrote: | https://www.instagram.com/p/BWs15I1gZGK/
amoila_cesar Meet @juliusrandle30 the most intense and driven competitor I know! The great Tim Grover would call him a CLEANER. When you are a cleaner you push yourself harder when everyone else has had enough, when you are in the zone you shut out everything and control the uncontrollable, and you know exactly who you are. I've watched this man grow mentally and beyond excited to see the damage he causes this season! #lakers
For the record, Kobe was also a CLEANER, and Tim Grover was his trainer. Michael Jordan and Dwyane Wade were also "CLEANER"s, and also trained by Tim Grover. |
Demarcus Cousins a closer too.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BWtEpurA1IR/
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| GonzagaAlum wrote: | | Kuzma can exist with Randle and Ingram because he can sub in for both but yeah Nance might have to go if they decide to keep Randle. |
Bite your tongue! Nance will always be the perfect sub & complementary player because of his attitude, skill set, and health concerns with his Crohn's Disease.
Both Kuzma & Nance will be growing, while at the same time on cheap contracts, and can give us the kind of depth teams will be dreaming of. Add Hart to that mix, with a well executed plan going into 2018, and we can be special in a short time. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7heWR6C-M
Here is Randle once again looking like a dude that doesn't care about defense, talk all you want about his workouts or shooting a bunch of practice shots. When I keep seeing footage reminding me of his crappy defense, I tune out any type of nuggets on his work ethic  |
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| bandiger wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7heWR6C-M
Here is Randle once again looking like a dude that doesn't care about defense, talk all you want about his workouts or shooting a bunch of practice shots. When I keep seeing footage reminding me of his crappy defense, I tune out any type of nuggets on his work ethic |
Don't know if you're being sarcastic or making fun of the people that overreact to Drew League stuff for analysis
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| PICKnPOP wrote: | | dao wrote: | Sigh. That's what was bugging me about this whole situation. It makes no sense that a player needs multiple seasons to get in shape. So he was supposedly down to 245 some time in the past, the same weight he is now...and we're supposed to be optimistic...meh, let's just see what happens. I'm sick and tired about hearing his conditioning being used as an excuse though. It's time to put up or shut up.
Maybe he should start doping with Epo? |
That's where diet comes into play. Look how fast that six pack came in!!! That let's you know that the muscles were already there and covered up by a layer of fat that was only there because of a bad diet. can't outwork a bad diet
Can't be mad when you run out of gas if you fueled on junk food instead of things with nutritional value. Lonzo ball has the same issue...fantastic work ethic, in incredible shape, but looks gassed pretty easily. Don't seem like a big deal but in the pros everybody is an elite athlete, everyone is in great shape and what separates good from great can be something as simple as diet |
you can't compare zo to randle. randle has been out of college for multiple years now and in the nba. why are you gassed in game 25? we know why. to your point..horrible diet.
Zo on the other hand looked gased because he hasnt played real speed 5 v 5 since the ncaa tournament. people keep brushing that off as if its nothing. for a guy that plays as fast paced as lonzo and remember he's not just assisting guys, he's taking a lot of shots, getting a lot of rebounds too. that zaps your energy.
If you would've pulled zo right out of college hoops and placed him in the spl. there would not have been as many energy problems as you've seen with him. its the layoff that killed his stamina.
Now if come 20 games into the season this year and zo looks gassed. then we have to ramp up that Regi... and watch that diet even closer. |
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| bandiger wrote: | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va7heWR6C-M
Here is Randle once again looking like a dude that doesn't care about defense, talk all you want about his workouts or shooting a bunch of practice shots. When I keep seeing footage reminding me of his crappy defense, I tune out any type of nuggets on his work ethic |
so what about those times when he locked up guards on the pick and roll switch? oh we dont remember those do we? |
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| dao wrote: | | epak wrote: | | dao wrote: | | epak wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | A lot of 18-19 year old's I watch in college don't have a great gas tank, Fultz, Dennis Smith, Exum, etc. But Julius was at the bottom of that tier(maybe for the reason that PickNPop stated --- it's believed to be true in combat sports)
His conditioning improved last year --- it should improve again. But to think it's going to improve to the level where he can be a legit energy 2way player, IMO that's too far of a jump. |
Each Pack adds an extra energy bar.
And since he has 10 of em...
I'm also hoping PNP is right about the bulky weight. |
How much weight has he lost? Simple physics would suggest that carrying less mass would require less energy expenditure. If he can't play with high energy for 30 minutes, then he shouldn't play 30 minutes. Simple as that. |
I dont disagree.
However, last year, that meant more of Moz|Zubac|Nance|Deng|Black|Robinson in some combination of Julius' minutes at the 4 or 5. Although lacking energy, effort or whatever we wanna call it, the fact that the other guys couldn't take Randle's minutes also says something.
I'm interested to see if Kuz can crack into someone's minutes. |
Couldn't, or weren't given the opportunity? We've beaten the Nance/Randle discussion into the ground but the advanced stats favored Nance over Randle. Randle sucking wind with his hands on his hips, playing half assed defense and giving no effort off ball, shouldn't be getting minutes over a fresh Nance. That's on Luke to, who has yet to give us much hope in his coaching ability, but that's another story altogether. |
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