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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:09 am    Post subject:

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They like Julius in any role he's in but they love the idea of him being able to dominate against second units."

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Sounds kinda backhanded compliment... u being demoted son


Yep. Like Iggy and LO


Yep, Iggy and LO moved to 2nd unit for a Championship contenders. Randle, he getting demoted
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject:

So Randle won't even start tonight.

So why didn't we trade this guy during the offseason? This is only gonna decrease his trade value unless that is the idea during contract negotiations.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:30 am    Post subject:

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^We don't need to make a decision about Nance right now. We do with Randle. Thus, to the extent we want to raise trade value, we need to prioritize doing so with Randle over Nance. Same goes for Deng, who's contract we need to get rid of, which is one of the reasons (aside from potential on the floor impact), I'd rather give 10-15 minutes to Deng than Nance.


I think that decision has been made.


If it has then our FO is more clueless than I thought.


Clueless? How so? They have absolutely killed the draft the last few years. They signed KCP which is one of the better defenders we ever had. They traded away a souring player and one of the worst contracts for Brook and basically Kuzma.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:36 am    Post subject:

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So Randle won't even start tonight.

So why didn't we trade this guy during the offseason? This is only gonna decrease his trade value unless that is the idea during contract negotiations.


I suspect his value on the market isn't that great and hey, Magic and company tried. Everybody was hyping what great shape Julius was in I bet if we could have moved Moz and Julius for Lopez, we would have done so and then traded DLo in a separate deal. This front office didn't draft Julius, they DID draft Kuz. They've backed Ingram as the future of the franchise so he's now one of "theirs" but they have never proclaimed anything about Julius except, "if Julius gets that right hand... ooooooh, he's going to be a monster".

Clarkson is another one, we've even heard they think they can move Clarkson at any time so... he ain't in the plans either...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:56 am    Post subject:

Jules will have an opportunity to dominate 2nd units and earn end-game minutes. Doesn't sound so bad.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:06 am    Post subject:

governator wrote:
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They like Julius in any role he's in but they love the idea of him being able to dominate against second units."

- @ramonashelburne


Sounds kinda backhanded compliment... u being demoted son


Yep. Like Iggy and LO


Yep, Iggy and LO moved to 2nd unit for a Championship contenders. Randle, he getting demoted


If that's his ceiling, what is the difference...

If our SG and SF were lights out shooters, I would say he should start but seeing how KCP has been way cold and Ingram has been equally as bad, I think it's tough to make up for Julius' lack of ability to shoot. He needs to be complimented by guys he can kick it out to.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:37 am    Post subject:

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^We don't need to make a decision about Nance right now. We do with Randle. Thus, to the extent we want to raise trade value, we need to prioritize doing so with Randle over Nance. Same goes for Deng, who's contract we need to get rid of, which is one of the reasons (aside from potential on the floor impact), I'd rather give 10-15 minutes to Deng than Nance.


I think that decision has been made.


If it has then our FO is more clueless than I thought.


Clueless? How so? They have absolutely killed the draft the last few years. They signed KCP which is one of the better defenders we ever had. They traded away a souring player and one of the worst contracts for Brook and basically Kuzma.


The last few years? It’s been less than one year and I agree they did well in the draft. Trading sucked. Giving up on a player before his 3rd season, when many players break out, is pure stupidity. If their mind is made up now we are in real trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:40 am    Post subject:

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governator wrote:
epak wrote:
governator wrote:
pio2u wrote:
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They like Julius in any role he's in but they love the idea of him being able to dominate against second units."

- @ramonashelburne


Sounds kinda backhanded compliment... u being demoted son


Yep. Like Iggy and LO


Yep, Iggy and LO moved to 2nd unit for a Championship contenders. Randle, he getting demoted


If that's his ceiling, what is the difference...

If our SG and SF were lights out shooters, I would say he should start but seeing how KCP has been way cold and Ingram has been equally as bad, I think it's tough to make up for Julius' lack of ability to shoot. He needs to be complimented by guys he can kick it out to.


So we replace him with Nance who is a worse shooter? Confusing logic.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:14 am    Post subject:

Surprised by Soriano's opinion about starting Nance vs. Randle on the LFR podcast. Said it better than me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:26 pm    Post subject:

was looking forward to seeing julius and blake match up
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject:

I think Jules will have a big night.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:52 pm    Post subject:

Disappointed not to see him out there that much. Looks like he didn't get into any rhythm tonight.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject:

Feel bad for Julius tbh...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:54 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
I think Jules will have a big night.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject:

Trade him please, looks like he dont wanna play
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:01 pm    Post subject:

leandromato1 wrote:
Trade him please, looks like he dont wanna play


I know he has to be a pro and all, but can you seriously blame him?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:02 pm    Post subject:

How Randle comes out tomorrow will be very telling.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:03 pm    Post subject:

I'm starting to loose faith.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject:

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I'm starting to loose faith.


He was the 2nd best Laker this preseason. Went through a complete body transformation this offseason exactly as the front office expected of him.

Benched before he started a single game with Brook Lopez in a contract year.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:07 pm    Post subject:

Lakers are doing a great job at lowering their players' trade value.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers are doing a great job at lowering their players' trade value.


Not even kidding, if this is how Luke & the FO is going to handle Julius this year, then they obviously aren't prioritizing him in the long-term and should sell while they can.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject:

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Lakers are doing a great job at lowering their players' trade value.


From what, a second round pick to cash considerations?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject:

iono if julius and bogut should be a thing ever

but I dont coach the shooty hoops guise
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:15 pm    Post subject:

He was -25...Gave no effort and was sulking. Pathetic game. U gonna blame the coach for Randle giving no effort? What a joke on defense too
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:17 pm    Post subject:

I think Griffin castrated him with that dunk though.
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