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Rivershow
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| scoobs wrote: | | Next season I see him maybe getting 24mpg, 9ppg, 5rpg, 2apg. That's 13.5, 7.5, 3.0 per 36. |
Randle didn't average less than 10ppg in summer league. Yes I know blah blah summer league is not the nba but he has skills. Give him 25min and I can see him average 13-16ppg, 7-9rpg, 2-3apg |
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K0BEE 2.0
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Randle is gonna wreck havoc on the league for years to come..... I thought he was going Top-4 for sure... especially after looking at his youtube highlights....
he's gonna be another Tim Duncan... he's gonna be a superstar from day 1 |
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jjww28
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| I wanna know his weight, and wether he have a jump. It seems that he may play some mins as SF. |
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watchME
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| The lakers shoulf have used their connections and gotten randle into team USA. Just so he could see the drive of those guys |
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LakersForever123
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Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
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Jim99187
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| LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
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Omar Little
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster).
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ch3cky0selff00
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| 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
Interesting. Very interesting. I still see him coming off the bench in that role though.
Starters
Lin, Kobe, Wesley, Boozer, Hill
Bench
Nash/Clarkson, Swaggy P, Randle, Kelly, Sacre/Davis
Wonder where that'd leave Xavier Henry.
Imagine Randle in the post with Young, Nash/Clarkson, and Kelly sitting out on the perimeter waiting for the kick out! Hm.. |
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Jim99187
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rock0100
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| 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
If Randle is as hard a worker as I believe he is, he will start the season with a much improved perimeter shot. Wouldnt mind experimenting in the preseason with Randle at SF. We already know what Wes can give us anyways. |
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Jim99187
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| rock0100 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
If Randle is as hard a worker as I believe he is, he will start the season with a much improved perimeter shot. Wouldnt mind experimenting in the preseason with Randle at SF. We already know what Wes can give us anyways. |
i would love to see a combo of davis/kelly/randle/young/nash |
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DancingBarry
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| ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
Interesting. Very interesting. I still see him coming off the bench in that role though.
Starters
Lin, Kobe, Wesley, Boozer, Hill
Bench
Nash/Clarkson, Swaggy P, Randle, Kelly, Sacre/Davis
Wonder where that'd leave Xavier Henry.
Imagine Randle in the post with Young, Nash/Clarkson, and Kelly sitting out on the perimeter waiting for the kick out! Hm.. |
Problem is defensively you just put your SF on Kelly and your PF on Randle pretty easily and that's that. No advantages. So you need Kelly to work on a post game and Randle his shot regardless with that combo or Randle isn't really playing the 3. |
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| DancingBarry wrote: | | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
Interesting. Very interesting. I still see him coming off the bench in that role though.
Starters
Lin, Kobe, Wesley, Boozer, Hill
Bench
Nash/Clarkson, Swaggy P, Randle, Kelly, Sacre/Davis
Wonder where that'd leave Xavier Henry.
Imagine Randle in the post with Young, Nash/Clarkson, and Kelly sitting out on the perimeter waiting for the kick out! Hm.. |
Problem is defensively you just put your SF on Kelly and your PF on Randle pretty easily and that's that. No advantages. So you need Kelly to work on a post game and Randle his shot regardless with that combo or Randle isn't really playing the 3. |
yup i was thinking the same thing. |
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Omar Little
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Except Kelly has a decent game down low as well, and a sf can't cover him. But I think that's part if the reason they got boozer. He has an outside shot and obviously can't be guarded by a sf down low.
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Omar Little
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And even if you could cover Kelly with a three, it still allows LA to play Kelly and Randle together.
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ch3cky0selff00
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| DancingBarry wrote: | | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
Interesting. Very interesting. I still see him coming off the bench in that role though.
Starters
Lin, Kobe, Wesley, Boozer, Hill
Bench
Nash/Clarkson, Swaggy P, Randle, Kelly, Sacre/Davis
Wonder where that'd leave Xavier Henry.
Imagine Randle in the post with Young, Nash/Clarkson, and Kelly sitting out on the perimeter waiting for the kick out! Hm.. |
Problem is defensively you just put your SF on Kelly and your PF on Randle pretty easily and that's that. No advantages. So you need Kelly to work on a post game and Randle his shot regardless with that combo or Randle isn't really playing the 3. |
True. But.. I'm talking bench players here.
If that's the case.. then just set Julius up at the elbow and allow him to use his quickness against said power forward. If the power forward is quick enough to keep up with Julius, he's probably not as strong so.. lol.
Ryan Kelly isn't the second coming of Hakeem but it's not like he doesn't know how to utilize his size advantage. Ive seen Ryan take smaller players to the post on several occasions.
Ryan Kelly and Julius Randle imo could easily be interchangeable on offense when it comes to "positions" which is so popular around here.
I am talking about playing against opposing teams bench players though. There's a pretty big difference in starting quality small and power forwards and bench quality small and power forwards.
I mean obviously, what I said wouldn't be the exclusive offense.. I was just suggesting I could see a line-up like that which could end up being effective. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | rock0100 wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | LakersForever123 wrote: |
Wow!!! He lost weight. It looks like the Lakers are preparing to give him some minutes at the small forward position. definitely, a Lebronesque physique. I bet Lakers are working on improving his ballhandling and 3 point shooting skills for the 3 position. |
sll his life he has played 4. why in the world he will start playing 3? he will get torched on the defensive end pretty bad. offensive end he has no Jump shot outside 15feet
u will F up the spacing pretty bad if u make him 3 |
From what I saw in summer league, he has the lateral quickness, length (while a bit small at four he is large at three), and strength to guard nba threes. Otoh, they do not have the ability to guard him down low. Thus he can be a mismatch at the position, especially if paired with a four who can spread the floor (like a certain duke grad on the roster). |
If Randle is as hard a worker as I believe he is, he will start the season with a much improved perimeter shot. Wouldnt mind experimenting in the preseason with Randle at SF. We already know what Wes can give us anyways. |
i would love to see a combo of davis/kelly/randle/young/nash |
Why would you love to see that combo when you recently said Randle will get torched on the defensive end and he will F up the spacing pretty bad? |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | Next season I see him maybe getting 24mpg, 9ppg, 5rpg, 2apg. That's 13.5, 7.5, 3.0 per 36. |
Randle didn't average less than 10ppg in summer league. Yes I know blah blah summer league is not the nba but he has skills. Give him 25min and I can see him average 13-16ppg, 7-9rpg, 2-3apg |
Those are crazy numbers for only 25 minutes a game. I love Randle, but I doubt he comes close to that. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Those would be good numbers in 28-30 minutes.
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| Kelly's post game was pretty so-so last season. If Randle can't stretch the floor for Kelly, the D can sag off and pack the paint making life even more difficult in the paint for Kelly and everyone else. Randle simply has to develop a consistent perimeter jumper to pull this off effectively. I don't think he's far from that to be honest, but without that I think the advantages can be countered pretty effectively. |
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| Keep randle at the 4. Does Griffin or love play 3 just because they have some perimeter abilities? His skills are minimized at the 3. He has an above average handle for a 4, but its probably average for a 3. |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | My take on Randle so far is he reminds me of a combination of LO, Z BO and LBJ. LO because the way that he likes to attack the basket from the perimeter and because be is left handed. Z BO because he is around the same size, lefty and isn't a great shot blocker. LBJ because he just kind of resembles him to me man. He kind of has the Lebron older looking face to him and he is muscular built and both probably not too far off in body type at 6-9 250ish and their ability to handle the ball for their size. A 6-9 250 pound muscular built guy handling the ball. Randle just needs to keep working in that jumper. Looked good in high school and looked pretty damn good at laker training facility. |
man talk about overrating your own pick.
if he was like 10 times lighter then combination of LO, ZBO + LBJ he would have been the no 1 pick |
He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | My take on Randle so far is he reminds me of a combination of LO, Z BO and LBJ. LO because the way that he likes to attack the basket from the perimeter and because be is left handed. Z BO because he is around the same size, lefty and isn't a great shot blocker. LBJ because he just kind of resembles him to me man. He kind of has the Lebron older looking face to him and he is muscular built and both probably not too far off in body type at 6-9 250ish and their ability to handle the ball for their size. A 6-9 250 pound muscular built guy handling the ball. Randle just needs to keep working in that jumper. Looked good in high school and looked pretty damn good at laker training facility. |
man talk about overrating your own pick.
if he was like 10 times lighter then combination of LO, ZBO + LBJ he would have been the no 1 pick |
He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I definitely think by the end of the year Randle will establish himself as a should of been number 1-3 pick ahead of at least wiggins, gordon, exum, smart. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | My take on Randle so far is he reminds me of a combination of LO, Z BO and LBJ. LO because the way that he likes to attack the basket from the perimeter and because be is left handed. Z BO because he is around the same size, lefty and isn't a great shot blocker. LBJ because he just kind of resembles him to me man. He kind of has the Lebron older looking face to him and he is muscular built and both probably not too far off in body type at 6-9 250ish and their ability to handle the ball for their size. A 6-9 250 pound muscular built guy handling the ball. Randle just needs to keep working in that jumper. Looked good in high school and looked pretty damn good at laker training facility. |
man talk about overrating your own pick.
if he was like 10 times lighter then combination of LO, ZBO + LBJ he would have been the no 1 pick |
He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
Because scouts like the measurements and "projections" over now-talent. The funny thing is Randle's wingspan isn't way below average; has grown by 2 inches last 2 years and could still be growing.
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