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| Even if Randle's jumper doesn't really develop this season, he may still be able to space the floor as a "stretch" four. As a defense, you don't really want to let him catch in open space and get a running start towards the hoop. |
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| K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
Two things people only compare Randle to z-bo because that is the most in identifiable recent comparison because of Randle's size and his ability to use both his size and good post moves to score. Randle really has a unique skillset, it's why I said multiple times that it's stupid to compare him to one or two players. And regarding teams passing him up, it's not like there isn't a history of teams passing up good players in the draft. Both lillard and curry should of been number 1 picks but they weren't and that is only recently talking about the nba draft. Sometimes gms just like fans fall in love with certain attributes of draft picks and focus negatively on other attributes. That's just how the dice falls sometimes, and the lakers benefited because of it just like golden state and portland benefited with their picks. |
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It is important to remember some of the guys above him may actually end up better players, we don't know yet. I had him at 4 on my board prior to Embiid's injury. And two guys above him were ranked higher on absolute upside. Parker is the only guy i had as a surefire guy. Lots to choose from in the last draft, no real right or wrong to be known up front.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | scoobs wrote: | | My take on Randle so far is he reminds me of a combination of LO, Z BO and LBJ. LO because the way that he likes to attack the basket from the perimeter and because be is left handed. Z BO because he is around the same size, lefty and isn't a great shot blocker. LBJ because he just kind of resembles him to me man. He kind of has the Lebron older looking face to him and he is muscular built and both probably not too far off in body type at 6-9 250ish and their ability to handle the ball for their size. A 6-9 250 pound muscular built guy handling the ball. Randle just needs to keep working in that jumper. Looked good in high school and looked pretty damn good at laker training facility. |
man talk about overrating your own pick.
if he was like 10 times lighter then combination of LO, ZBO + LBJ he would have been the no 1 pick |
He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
Because scouts like the measurements and "projections" over now-talent. The funny thing is Randle's wingspan isn't way below average; has grown by 2 inches last 2 years and could still be growing. |
I am absolutely praying that Randle grows at least another inch. It will make finishing in traffic so much easier if he gets another inch or two from his standing reach.
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Randles wingspan is the same as Blake Griffin and Kevin Love, has the same vertical as Griffin and is taller than Blake without shoes.
Randle's fine size wise imo. Where he will make his mark is control over his game, raising his defensive IQ and being a little more under control. |
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| Rivershow wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
Two things people only compare Randle to z-bo because that is the most in identifiable recent comparison because of Randle's size and his ability to use both his size and good post moves to score. Randle really has a unique skillset, it's why I said multiple times that it's stupid to compare him to one or two players. And regarding teams passing him up, it's not like there isn't a history of teams passing up good players in the draft. Both lillard and curry should of been number 1 picks but they weren't and that is only recently talking about the nba draft. Sometimes gms just like fans fall in love with certain attributes of draft picks and focus negatively on other attributes. That's just how the dice falls sometimes, and the lakers benefited because of it just like golden state and portland benefited with their picks. |
If I were to pick one player he resembles most it would have to be Greg Monroe. |
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| mnstrdnk wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
Two things people only compare Randle to z-bo because that is the most in identifiable recent comparison because of Randle's size and his ability to use both his size and good post moves to score. Randle really has a unique skillset, it's why I said multiple times that it's stupid to compare him to one or two players. And regarding teams passing him up, it's not like there isn't a history of teams passing up good players in the draft. Both lillard and curry should of been number 1 picks but they weren't and that is only recently talking about the nba draft. Sometimes gms just like fans fall in love with certain attributes of draft picks and focus negatively on other attributes. That's just how the dice falls sometimes, and the lakers benefited because of it just like golden state and portland benefited with their picks. |
If I were to pick one player he resembles most it would have to be Greg Monroe. |
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| mnstrdnk wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
Two things people only compare Randle to z-bo because that is the most in identifiable recent comparison because of Randle's size and his ability to use both his size and good post moves to score. Randle really has a unique skillset, it's why I said multiple times that it's stupid to compare him to one or two players. And regarding teams passing him up, it's not like there isn't a history of teams passing up good players in the draft. Both lillard and curry should of been number 1 picks but they weren't and that is only recently talking about the nba draft. Sometimes gms just like fans fall in love with certain attributes of draft picks and focus negatively on other attributes. That's just how the dice falls sometimes, and the lakers benefited because of it just like golden state and portland benefited with their picks. |
If I were to pick one player he resembles most it would have to be Greg Monroe. |
Not sure if you're joking.
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They're both left handed 
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | mnstrdnk wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | He should have been the #1 pick, #2 at worst. Thank goodness that didn't happen. |
I wonder, what's the reason behind those 6 teams passing up on him? did Randle's agent force those teams to look elsewhere so Randle can fall to the Lakers? or were they worried about his minor foot issues?
and I also get bummed when people compare Randle to Z-Bo.... Randolph has no athletic ability and can't run the floor..... Randle has a chance to be a top-notch big-man in this league and can make a name for the HOF when his career is done. |
Two things people only compare Randle to z-bo because that is the most in identifiable recent comparison because of Randle's size and his ability to use both his size and good post moves to score. Randle really has a unique skillset, it's why I said multiple times that it's stupid to compare him to one or two players. And regarding teams passing him up, it's not like there isn't a history of teams passing up good players in the draft. Both lillard and curry should of been number 1 picks but they weren't and that is only recently talking about the nba draft. Sometimes gms just like fans fall in love with certain attributes of draft picks and focus negatively on other attributes. That's just how the dice falls sometimes, and the lakers benefited because of it just like golden state and portland benefited with their picks. |
If I were to pick one player he resembles most it would have to be Greg Monroe. |
Not sure if you're joking. |
Both athletic, can run the floor, can play with back to basket but mostly good at driving to the hoop. More him then Z |
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| MJST wrote: | Randles wingspan is the same as Blake Griffin and Kevin Love, has the same vertical as Griffin and is taller than Blake without shoes.
Randle's fine size wise imo. Where he will make his mark is control over his game, raising his defensive IQ and being a little more under control. |
untrue according to this:
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Julius-Randle-6294/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Blake-Griffin-1268/
and I find it very hard to believe Griffin hasn't improved his hops since those measurements were taken. Even so, it shows that Randle needs the extra steps. |
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I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
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| 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
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| 22 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
Are you looking forward to seeing him guard Griffin as well? |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
Are you looking forward to seeing him guard Griffin as well? |
Both Randle and Griffin could probably guard each other as well as any player in the league. Their combination of strength/girth and quickness is rare. If they both put in the effort defensively in that 1v1 matchup, they could defend each other well
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
Are you looking forward to seeing him guard Griffin as well? |
Both Randle and Griffin could probably guard each other as well as any player in the league. Theyre combination of strength/girth and quickness is rare. If they both put in the effort defensively in that 1v1 matchup, they could defend each other well |
Exactly. The only diffference being we pretty much know at this point that Griffin is not committed to defense. His idea of defense is flopping. The jury is still out on whether Randle has the mindset to defend. He definitely has the tools |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
Are you looking forward to seeing him guard Griffin as well? |
Yup. May take something time but Randle won't back down from the challenge.
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| 24 wrote: | | It is important to remember some of the guys above him may actually end up better players, we don't know yet. I had him at 4 on my board prior to Embiid's injury. And two guys above him were ranked higher on absolute upside. Parker is the only guy i had as a surefire guy. Lots to choose from in the last draft, no real right or wrong to be known up front. |
I think Smart is surefire. He's going to be a superstar. I was so pissed that the Celtics picked him one spot above us.
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| greenfrog wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | 22 wrote: | I can't wait to see the Randle/Griffin battles to come. They match up extremely well against each other. I think as Julius matures he will give Blake the business because J Rock is much tougher.
Ugh I just want to see Randle develop his skills on the court! A 19 yo PF with point forward abilities, a high motor, underrated athleticism, and a post game?? START TRAINING CAMP NOW please! |
This. Randle won't back down on Griffin. And it'll be a great matchup for years to come. |
Yessir!!
Yinoma I can't wait to see JR face up, and then take Griffin to the rack while Blake flops and looks like a major wuss. It will highlight the difference between a Lakers star and a Clipper one |
Are you looking forward to seeing him guard Griffin as well? |
Yes
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I don't think the Lakers would have picked Smart over Randle.
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | It is important to remember some of the guys above him may actually end up better players, we don't know yet. I had him at 4 on my board prior to Embiid's injury. And two guys above him were ranked higher on absolute upside. Parker is the only guy i had as a surefire guy. Lots to choose from in the last draft, no real right or wrong to be known up front. |
I think Smart is surefire. He's going to be a superstar. I was so pissed that the Celtics picked him one spot above us. |
The two guys I wanted at our range was smart or Randle. So I'm happy.
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We definitely got the guy that most fits our current situation
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| Chronicle wrote: | | We definitely got the guy that most fits our current situation |
yup and I'm not confident in Smart ever becoming an offensive force |
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