GOODBYE JULIUS RANDLE (Lakers Renounce Randle at his request, Who Then Signs W/ NOR for 2 years (1+1), $18m)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject:

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If he keeps playing like this, we can't even afford to keep him.
Name me another guy who can bully his way to the basket, strong as a bull. Can pass, great handle, great defender on PNR, that is not on a max contract.

If randle can shoot better, he will be an all star next season

You gotta go all the way to #1 pick... Ben Simmons. One play like a big, one play like a wing, both bully ball. Simmons runs the offense well but Randle is the beast (D-up 1-5), both canít shoot too well (although Randleís better)... is Randle better than Simmons? I think so


Haha. 30 teams would disagree. Including the Lakers. I like Randle a ton, but I would personally drive him to the airport for Ben Simmons. Simmons can contest the rim pretty well when he wants to. I'm not saying he's more athletic than Randle, but he has more spring in his step. Simmons has elite court vision. Has the tools to be a good defender. Can score at will, but can't shoot. He's okay though because he's surrounded by shooters. Comparing Ben Simmons to Randle isn't really fair. A better argument would be Lonzo Ball. That's where I would sound ridiculous just like you guys on Randle Island.

I agree the style of play of Simmons is closer to Lonzo but I was responding to the comment about bully ball, PnR defender, handles, can pass and not on max contract... thatís Simmons. Lonzoís not a bully ball player. But yeah, Iím pretty high on Randleís potentials
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:36 am    Post subject:

Man, Randle has just been beasting even through difficult times. Consistent effort, that light switch seems like it has been permanently turned on. We need to keep him.

Is there any room on the Randle bandwagon for some Funk?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject:

anpherknee you were right fam
im sorry for dissing your kid
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:25 am    Post subject:

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Man, Randle has just been beasting even through difficult times. Consistent effort, that light switch seems like it has been permanently turned on. We need to keep him.

Is there any room on the Randle bandwagon for some Funk?


As far as I'm concerned there's always room for some Funk

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:19 am    Post subject:

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I prefer to sign Randle over lebron


not this again lol
With the Cousins injury, let's say PG signs, other than Lebron, there is no other FA out there this summer better than Randle. So if Lebron goes elsewhere, you match any offers on Randle, even if it's the max.


That's my point. Lots of other factors not just "Randle vs LeBron"
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:25 am    Post subject:

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Man, Randle has just been beasting even through difficult times.


I loved that play last night where he just bumped Jerami Grant out of the way and dunked on him. Grant did that to KCP three times earlier in the game and Julius gave him some payback. Afterward, Grant looked at the ref for a bailout call.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:29 am    Post subject:

The only thing I hate about yesterday trade is The 2 MAX Plan Revival. For me, the trade is just an insurance that Julius will be a Laker for many years to come, even though MCuban offer a Max offer sheet. We will match, plain & simple.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:34 am    Post subject:

I hate to fill the role of devils advocate, but as much as Randle has been balling, Iím still a little uneasy about giving him any kind of max.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:36 am    Post subject:

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The only thing I hate about yesterday trade is The 2 MAX Plan Revival. For me, the trade is just an insurance that Julius will be a Laker for many years to come, even though MCuban offer a Max offer sheet. We will match, plain & simple.


You honestly think Cuban is going to offer him 25m/year? That's the max for Jules.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:37 am    Post subject:

BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:52 am    Post subject:

Exactly. Cuban MAX is the worst scenario and it has been covered. I think he eventually will get 17-18.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:53 am    Post subject:

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Exactly. Cuban MAX is the worst scenario and it has been covered. I think he eventually will get 17-18.


1. they don't have a 25m max to offer
2. they don't have 18m IIRC either after trading for McDermott.

I think it'll be more in the 13-15m range when it's all said and done.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject:

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BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>

If Dallas wants to keep McDermott, they're functionally out of the Randle sweepstakes, since his cap hold alone lowers their available cap space to $13-14M. And the Mavs probably want to bring back Yogi Ferrell and possibly Seth Curry and their cap holds would cut another $5M from the Mavs cap space.

But Sacramento just opened upwards of $21M, and I could definitely see Vlade making a silly offer to Randle.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 11:58 am    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>

If Dallas wants to keep McDermott, they're functionally out of the Randle sweepstakes, since his cap hold alone lowers their available cap space to $13-14M. And the Mavs probably want to bring back Yogi Ferrell and possibly Seth Curry and their cap holds would cut another $5M from the Mavs cap space.

But Sacramento just opened upwards of $21M, and I could definitely see Vlade making a silly offer to Randle.


And if Jules is stupid enough to even entertain $ to play in that cesspool, so be it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 12:04 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>

If Dallas wants to keep McDermott, they're functionally out of the Randle sweepstakes, since his cap hold alone lowers their available cap space to $13-14M. And the Mavs probably want to bring back Yogi Ferrell and possibly Seth Curry and their cap holds would cut another $5M from the Mavs cap space.

But Sacramento just opened upwards of $21M, and I could definitely see Vlade making a silly offer to Randle.


And if Jules is stupid enough to even entertain $ to play in that cesspool, so be it.

Yup. George Hill is Julius' cautionary tale.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>

If Dallas wants to keep McDermott, they're functionally out of the Randle sweepstakes, since his cap hold alone lowers their available cap space to $13-14M. And the Mavs probably want to bring back Yogi Ferrell and possibly Seth Curry and their cap holds would cut another $5M from the Mavs cap space.

But Sacramento just opened upwards of $21M, and I could definitely see Vlade making a silly offer to Randle.


And if Jules is stupid enough to even entertain $ to play in that cesspool, so be it.

Yup. George Hill is Julius' cautionary tale.


Did you see they waived GPapa? My goodness.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
BTW, by trading for Doug McDermott, that eats into Dallas' cap space even further next year. He's a RFA>

If Dallas wants to keep McDermott, they're functionally out of the Randle sweepstakes, since his cap hold alone lowers their available cap space to $13-14M. And the Mavs probably want to bring back Yogi Ferrell and possibly Seth Curry and their cap holds would cut another $5M from the Mavs cap space.

But Sacramento just opened upwards of $21M, and I could definitely see Vlade making a silly offer to Randle.


And if Jules is stupid enough to even entertain $ to play in that cesspool, so be it.

Yup. George Hill is Julius' cautionary tale.


Did you see they waived GPapa? My goodness.

The dysfunction from their front office is breathtaking. Vlade picked up PapaG's option three months ago. Three months ago! They just pissed away $2.4M for...Joe Johnson's corpse?

And that's on top of panic trading Vlade's big free agent signing George Hill for Iman Shumpert and a 2020 2nd round pick. The Nets got a 2018 1st and a 2nd for taking on Carroll's contract and may be able to flip him this summer for an additional asset. Vlade, though, functionally got the Kings a 2020 2nd for taking on Shumpert's deal - just brilliant!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:18 pm    Post subject:

I remember debating with a lot of fans that Randle would be better than Blake griffin within the next season or 2.

While I think Blake is better at this point the comparison is not far off and I believe itís still highly possible that Randle has a better career than Blake.

Keeper imo
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:24 pm    Post subject:

Roon wrote:
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Man, Randle has just been beasting even through difficult times. Consistent effort, that light switch seems like it has been permanently turned on. We need to keep him.

Is there any room on the Randle bandwagon for some Funk?


As far as I'm concerned there's always room for some Funk




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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:34 pm    Post subject:

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Im sold, dont care about 2 max, gotta keep that dude....hes earned it...


Sign Jules...

Sign We Want Paul...

And I'm a VERY happy fan cause 50+ wins is almost a guarantee.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:35 pm    Post subject:

It will come down to this IMO:

Is Jules worth trading the Cavs 1st, Lakers 1st to unload Deng? (assuming we have 2 max FAs committed).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:36 pm    Post subject:

Dr. Funkbot wrote:
Man, Randle has just been beasting even through difficult times. Consistent effort, that light switch seems like it has been permanently turned on. We need to keep him.

Is there any room on the Randle bandwagon for some Funk?


There's room for Funk EVERYWHERE.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:41 pm    Post subject:

Give him 4 years $60 million
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:48 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
It will come down to this IMO:

Is Jules worth trading the Cavs 1st, Lakers 1st to unload Deng? (assuming we have 2 max FAs committed).


Trade Julius or trade a couple late picks and Deng. You keep 23 year old PF with rare abilities and lock him up for his prime years.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:51 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
It will come down to this IMO:

Is Jules worth trading the Cavs 1st, Lakers 1st to unload Deng? (assuming we have 2 max FAs committed).


Trade Julius or trade a couple late picks and Deng. You keep 23 year old PF with rare abilities and lock him up for his prime years.


I agree. If that's what it takes and we have 2 max FAs on board, I do it too.
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