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44TheLogo Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:35 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. _________________ substance over style |
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Baron Von Humongous Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:01 am Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Exactly right, and I thought Julius adjusted well in his second matchup against Embiid. There really aren't many bigs who can go through him. |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:06 am Post subject: |
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Baron Von Humongous wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Exactly right, and I thought Julius adjusted well in his second matchup against Embiid. There really aren't many bigs who can go through him. |
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Purp 32 Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Just listened to the Woj podcast with Julius. He's such a likeable no nonsense type of guy. I really hope we don't let him go elsewhere. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 10:39 am Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Exactly right, and I thought Julius adjusted well in his second matchup against Embiid. There really aren't many bigs who can go through him. |
y'all singing music to my ears |
Yep. Don't think Julius gets over powered in one on one match ups.
Hoping his team defense gets legit next year with us. |
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panamaniac Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Really hope we keep Jules. He turned alot of heads, mine included, with his improvement last season. |
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Realistically a PG13/Jules/punt a max for 2019 summer would be a good one. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Realistically a PG13/Jules/punt a max for 2019 summer would be a good one. |
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44TheLogo Star Player
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Joe Pesci Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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After drafting Chandler Hutchison at 25, I really think the Lakers’ ideal summer is:
(1st) signing George outright for full max
(2nd) (with the caveat that James WILL sign) packaging a sign and traded Randle with B. Ingram (plus filler) for K. Leonard
(3rd) trading away Deng with two future first round picks to ATL for space
(4th) signing James outright for full max
(5th) signing Lopez to Room Exception
(6th) signing N. Noel, A. Ingram, Caruso, Wear, Frye, and M. Thomas to minimum contracts
PG -James - Ball - Caruso
SG - Hart - A. Ingram - M. Thomas
C - Lopez - Noel - Frye - Bryant
PF - Leonard - Kuzma - Wear
SF - George - Hutchison |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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44TheLogo wrote: | https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/21/dallas-mavericks-deandre-jordan-free-agency-rumors/
mavs chasing deandre jordan and DMC as well as julius this summer. sounds like julius is option C for Dallas too.
might be a long and frustrating summer for mr. randle before he gets his turn at the table. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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Joe Pesci wrote: | After drafting Chandler Hutchison at 25, I really think the Lakers’ ideal summer is:
(1st) signing George outright for full max
(2nd) (with the caveat that James WILL sign) packaging a sign and traded Randle with B. Ingram (plus filler) for K. Leonard
(3rd) trading away Deng with two future first round picks to ATL for space
(4th) signing James outright for full max
(5th) signing Lopez to Room Exception
(6th) signing N. Noel, A. Ingram, Caruso, Wear, Frye, and M. Thomas to minimum contracts
PG -James - Ball - Caruso
SG - Hart - A. Ingram - M. Thomas
C - Lopez - Noel - Frye - Bryant
PF - Leonard - Kuzma - Wear
SF - George - Hutchison |
Nope. Rather Keep Ju/BI and try to get Kawhi in 2019 |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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LakerSanity wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | https://hoopshype.com/2018/05/21/dallas-mavericks-deandre-jordan-free-agency-rumors/
mavs chasing deandre jordan and DMC as well as julius this summer. sounds like julius is option C for Dallas too.
might be a long and frustrating summer for mr. randle before he gets his turn at the table. |
Please, PLEASE let the Mavs use up all of their cap space on either Cousins or Jordan before they look at Randle. |
Would be a Godsend if they sign Cousins to a max. Two birds with one stone |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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More on the Mavs' thinking re: free agency (https://www.theringer.com/nba/2018/5/21/17374906/nba-draft-combine-rumblings-takeaways)
Quote: | Bamba told reporters that he believes he’s the type of big that point guard Dennis Smith Jr. wants to play with. “Rick Carlisle has said himself that he thinks Dennis is best with a big who rolls hard and finishes above the rim,” Bamba said. “It would be an interesting deal, me and Dennis.” Considering Carlisle’s affinity for a rim-running center, it shouldn’t come as a surprise to see the Mavericks connected with Bamba, who posted an unfathomable 7-foot-10 wingspan and 9-foot-7.5 standing reach. But I’ve received mixed signals regarding Dallas’s interest in the Texas big man.
Ever since word spread in league circles in March that Dirk Nowitzki would return to the Mavericks for his 21st season, there have also been rumblings that the Dallas front office will look to make additions this summer that can put the team back on a winning track. The Mavericks can create space to sign a max free agent, and multiple league sources expect them to pursue a trio of big men: DeAndre Jordan, DeMarcus Cousins, and restricted free agent Julius Randle. If the Mavericks do indeed plan to pursue expensive bigs in free agency, then it’d make sense to target a primary scorer, like Porter, rather than Bamba.
Randle and Jordan are both Texas natives. Randle fits the timeline of Dallas’s young roster, while Jordan could finally get a glimpse at what he missed out on after backing out of a deal with the Mavs in the summer of 2015. Jordan has a $24.1 million player option for 2018-19, so he may not hit the market, but the Mavs would be a great fit considering, as Bamba said, Smith’s game is best suited with a center who can roll and flush lobs.
A core of Porter and Harrison Barnes at forward, Smith at guard, and Jordan at center seems solid on paper, with some upside to get even better. I’d be less enthusiastic if Dallas signed Cousins coming off a ruptured Achilles. The Mavericks have already dealt with the repercussions of signing a player coming of an Achilles injury in Wesley Matthews, who still produces, but lacks the same bounce and burst that made him one of the NBA’s best 3-and-D players. Cousins, an unrestricted free agent this year, will beat the odds if he becomes the same dominant-yet-flawed player he was prior to the injury. But Dallas’s history working with Cousins’s agent, Jarinn Akana, is undeniable. Of Akana’s 12 NBA clients, five are current or former Mavericks, and one played for their G League team: Boogie’s brother, Jaleel Cousins. |
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DangeRuss Star Player
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Re-signing Randle should be a high priority |
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DangeRuss Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Woj acting real brand new around the 12 min mark. Haha dick. |
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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DangeRuss wrote: |
Woj acting real brand new around the 12 min mark. Haha dick. |
He was starting crap. Got little digs in to see if he could get a rise out of Randle. Randle played it cool though. _________________ LakersGround's Terms of Service
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anpherknee Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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wasn't julius bout to offer woj the fade back in the day for putting that report out about him needing foot surgery before the draft |
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splashmtn Star Player
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44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Randle vs Nurkic
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203994
I call even
Randle vs Jokic
Jokic wins this one
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203999
Randle vs Karl-Anthony Towns
Towns is a bit too much for Randle.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=1626157
Randle vs Gobert
close to even
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203497
Randle vs Embiid
We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203954
Randle vs AD
we already know how bad a matchup AD is for randle or any laker.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203076 |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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splashmtn wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Randle vs Nurkic
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203994
I call even
Randle vs Jokic
Jokic wins this one
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203999
Randle vs Karl-Anthony Towns
Towns is a bit too much for Randle.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=1626157
Randle vs Gobert
close to even
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203497
Randle vs Embiid
We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203954
Randle vs AD
we already know how bad a matchup AD is for randle or any laker.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203076 |
Im more interested in the win losses. I know we split with Philly. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Mon May 21, 2018 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Car54 wrote: | splashmtn wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Randle vs Nurkic
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203994
I call even
Randle vs Jokic
Jokic wins this one
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203999
Randle vs Karl-Anthony Towns
Towns is a bit too much for Randle.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=1626157
Randle vs Gobert
close to even
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203497
Randle vs Embiid
We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203954
Randle vs AD
we already know how bad a matchup AD is for randle or any laker.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203076 |
Im more interested in the win losses. I know we split with Philly. | so am I. but i can't have any one guy on my team being DOMINATED before the jump ball in the 1st qtr. do you understand my point? |
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splashmtn wrote: | 44TheLogo wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | fansincemagic wrote: | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Watching these playoffs, having a small ball center who can switch and recover is so invaluable. |
Agreed. When we worry about a handful of centers in the league giving him fits one on one, we have to keep his overall defensive worth in context. |
Yup, and even without a jumper, Julius' handle and improved passing along with his ability to exploit switches in the post make him a viable offensive weapon whereas a rebounding specialist like TT and even a roll man like Capela can be turned into total non-factors on offense with a simple switch. |
if/when we make the playoffs, which centers are we truly worried about in a 1 on 1 matchup with julius where they can overwhelm him with size?
new orleans w/ AD
philadelphia w/ Embiid
not scared of Julius in a 1 on 1 vs Nurkic, Jokic, Towns, Gobert, etc...
So there's what, 2 centers in the league who can really overwhelm Julius, and one is in the East. And to abuse that matchup it'd be a static low post possession? I am 100% fine with that. |
Randle vs Nurkic
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203994
I call even
Randle vs Jokic
Jokic wins this one
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203999
Randle vs Karl-Anthony Towns
Towns is a bit too much for Randle.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=1626157
Randle vs Gobert
close to even
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203497
Randle vs Embiid
We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203954
Randle vs AD
we already know how bad a matchup AD is for randle or any laker.
http://stats.nba.com/vs/#!?PlayerID=203944&VsPlayerID=203076 |
I'm on the side that would like Julius starting at the 4 and then sliding to the 5 at times during the game. |
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Quote: | We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small. |
Didn't randle do a great job against embiid in the second matchup? _________________ Kobe |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Chronicle wrote: | Quote: | We wants no parts of this matchup. randle is too small. |
Didn't randle do a great job against embiid in the second matchup? |
I believe thats the game Embiid was forced to make some tough shots and struggled at times tryjng to post randle up. _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
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