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lmao @ defending Lebron James.
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ringfinger
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| 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Same thing if he came here right? Uh huh. |
Wrong. I would still view him as the mercenary that he is. He'd just be helping us at that point. It isn't hard to see his strategy.
You see nothing wrong with it.
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No one was complaining, including yourself I believe, when Lebron's agent met with the Lakers. |
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Donkeybong
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| I don't see anything wrong with what he did. |
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| It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:34 am Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Same thing if he came here right? Uh huh. |
Wrong. I would still view him as the mercenary that he is. He'd just be helping us at that point. It isn't hard to see his strategy.
You see nothing wrong with it.
I do. |
No one was complaining, including yourself I believe, when Lebron's agent met with the Lakers. |
And I'm not complaining now. He deserts teams at his first opportunity when things get hard. That is fact. To say that wouldn't be fact if he cam here is false. |
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LakerCity
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:39 am Post subject: |
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| lalakersfan88 wrote: | | People hating on Lebron are like people hating on Kobe. Appreciate these types of players while we are still able to see them. They are truly great at what they do. Off the court stuff, I would care less. |
going back to cleveland is for off the court reasons though. He's bigger than basketball and needs to save Cleveland. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| TDRock wrote: | Odd tho this thread and the first post might be, it's how I feel too. First sign of adversity and he goes running is not a good look. He's "going home" but I personally doubt that would be the case had Miami won the Finals.
Whatever. Hopefully this gets the FA situation MOVING now, since "what's LBJ going to do???" Has been everyone's excuse for not taking action. |
My sentiments exactly!
I don't get how it's "hate" to point that out either.  If Pat Riley had managed to upgrade the Heat roster, there's no way Lebron is "going home" |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| LakerCity wrote: | | lalakersfan88 wrote: | | People hating on Lebron are like people hating on Kobe. Appreciate these types of players while we are still able to see them. They are truly great at what they do. Off the court stuff, I would care less. |
going back to cleveland is for off the court reasons though. He's bigger than basketball and needs to save Cleveland. |
He is bigger than life. That's the new billboard they should put up in Cleveland, "Bigger than basketball, Bigger than life....LBJ"
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Do you guys ever play pickup basketball? You always try to put the best team together so that you can win and stay on the court. Isn't that the whole purpose of the game? To win? I would have done the same thing if I were Lebron or Dwight. Young talented teams with a bright future. Does it suck for us as Lakers fans? Sure. Because we want to win too. Just like they do
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As you get older you realize just because we/you compete against someone, that doesn't necessarily make them the enemy. Bad people are the real enemy.
This is why even though I am a Philadelphia Eagles fan I was ecstatic when they released Desean Jackson and even though I am a Lakers fan and not A Cavaliers fan, I am happy for the city of Cleveland and for Lebron. Lebron is a good guy.
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| 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Same thing if he came here right? Uh huh. |
Wrong. I would still view him as the mercenary that he is. He'd just be helping us at that point. It isn't hard to see his strategy.
You see nothing wrong with it.
I do. |
No one was complaining, including yourself I believe, when Lebron's agent met with the Lakers. |
And I'm not complaining now. He deserts teams at his first opportunity when things get hard. That is fact. To say that wouldn't be fact if he cam here is false. |
He's going to a team that won 33 games last year, from a team that went to the NBA Finals.
I think your statement is a bit disingenuous. It's like saying Kobe only signs with the team that can pay him the most money. Sure, that's a fact, but that doesn't mean the only reason he signed with the team is because they could pay him the most money.
If he jumped on to some other contending team, I might agree. But he's going to a basement dweller. |
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| OCWA wrote: | As you get older you realize just because we/you compete against someone, that doesn't necessarily make them the enemy. Bad people are the real enemy.
This is why even though I am a Philadelphia Eagles fan I was ecstatic when they released Desean Jackson and even though I am a Lakers fan and not A Cavaliers fan, I am happy for the city of Cleveland and for Lebron. Lebron is a good guy.
“There are only two races of men: the decent and the indecent.” —Viktor Frankl |
this is too rich a concept for some LG'ers. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Same thing if he came here right? Uh huh. |
Wrong. I would still view him as the mercenary that he is. He'd just be helping us at that point. It isn't hard to see his strategy.
You see nothing wrong with it.
I do. |
No one was complaining, including yourself I believe, when Lebron's agent met with the Lakers. |
And I'm not complaining now. He deserts teams at his first opportunity when things get hard. That is fact. To say that wouldn't be fact if he cam here is false. |
He's going to a team that won 33 games last year, from a team that went to the NBA Finals.
I think your statement is a bit disingenuous. It's like saying Kobe only signs with the team that can pay him the most money. Sure, that's a fact, but that doesn't mean the only reason he signed with the team is because they could pay him the most money.
If he jumped on to some other contending team, I might agree. But he's going to a basement dweller. |
The irony is rich right there . . . laughably so. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| No. 17 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it. |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | 22 wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Same thing if he came here right? Uh huh. |
Wrong. I would still view him as the mercenary that he is. He'd just be helping us at that point. It isn't hard to see his strategy.
You see nothing wrong with it.
I do. |
No one was complaining, including yourself I believe, when Lebron's agent met with the Lakers. |
And I'm not complaining now. He deserts teams at his first opportunity when things get hard. That is fact. To say that wouldn't be fact if he cam here is false. |
He's going to a team that won 33 games last year, from a team that went to the NBA Finals.
I think your statement is a bit disingenuous. It's like saying Kobe only signs with the team that can pay him the most money. Sure, that's a fact, but that doesn't mean the only reason he signed with the team is because they could pay him the most money.
If he jumped on to some other contending team, I might agree. But he's going to a basement dweller. |
The irony is rich right there . . . laughably so. |
Exactly! So much so I'm not even going to respond.
ringfinger knows exactly what he's doing. No need to play silly games. Have fun defending Mr. James |
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| No. 17 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it. |
agreed |
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| No. 17 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it. |
I don't disagree with the fact that he's going to a better situation that benefits him. But as a guy who has routinely referred to him as El BJ for the last four years, even I can see that there's more at play here than simply abandoning ship with the rats. |
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| have the details of his contract been revealed yet? What if he only signs a 2 year deal and takes meetings with other teams in 2016 |
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | No. 17 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it. |
I don't disagree with the fact that he's going to a better situation that benefits him. But as a guy who has routinely referred to him as El BJ for the last four years, even I can see that there's more at play here than simply abandoning ship with the rats. |
I can agree with that, considering he could have joined some other contenders (actually anyone would become a contender immediately once he joined them). It would be interesting to see what happens with Cleveland in the future. Not sure they're winning a championship next year.
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In truth I'm not nearly as upset that he left Miami as I am that he is with Dan Gilbert.. You would have to be a Laker Hater to appreciate anything good coming to that man..
James is pretty weird to be signing with Gilbert after the letter on his website the last four years talking (bleep) about him
Dan Gilbert is the pissy (bleep) that made sure the Lakers couldn't sign CP3.. He wrote a letter to Stern misrepresenting facts and skewing figures asking the league to stop the trade... |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | In truth I'm not nearly as upset that he left Miami as I am that he is with Dan Gilbert.. You would have to be a Laker Hater to appreciate anything good coming to that man..
James is pretty weird to be signing with Gilbert after the letter on his website the last four years talking (bleep) about him
Dan Gilbert is the pissy (bleep) that made sure the Lakers couldn't sign CP3.. He wrote a letter to Stern misrepresenting facts and skewing figures asking the league to stop the trade... |
Its not weird that James is backin Cleveland. They are grown ass men. They got over it. That's what people are supposed to do not hold a grudge like this is housewives of Miami.
If us laker fans wanna (bleep) about anything (bleep) about how no one wants to play with out grumpy old man in Kobe. Players are staying away and want no part in this team. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:12 am Post subject: Re: Could you imagine if LeBron James was a ship captain? And the boat was sinking... |
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | He wouldn't even look back as all the passengers sank to the bottom of the ocean. He would be off the ship faster than the rats. |
The analogy doesn't make sense to me.
Seems like he was the captain of a ship that made four trips. And after the fourth trip ended and the ship came into shore, he said, "OK, I am getting off now and going to another ship. You guys are free to stay or leave."
| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | In truth I'm not nearly as upset that he left Miami as I am that he is with Dan Gilbert.. You would have to be a Laker Hater to appreciate anything good coming to that man.. James is pretty weird to be signing with Gilbert after the letter on his website the last four years talking (bleep) about him. |
It's not weird, really. Gilbert threw a hissy fit four years ago. But James is a grown man, and I suspect he doesn't get worked up over piddly stuff like that. I also suspect James doesn't care all that much who owns the team he opts to play for. It's not like players spend a lot of time around team owners. |
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| No. 17 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | It's not the most commendable thing to head off at the first sign of adversity, but I think that is mitigated a good bit by the fact that he has decided to return to Cleveland. |
I believe he returned to Cleveland because he has a better chance of winning there. D Wade is declining by the minute. I'm not buying his love fest for Ohio all of a sudden. It didn't exist 4 years ago and it doesn't exist now. He's out for himself. That's it. |
What NBA player isn't out for himself? They just like to say how important the fans/cities are because it's good PR and the fans eat it up.
Obviously, if Cleveland didn't offer a good chance of winning, he wouldn't go there. I suspect they'll trade the #1 pick for Love, and Lebron is looking forward to teaming up with Love and Irving to form a new, and younger big three. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Could you imagine if LeBron James was a ship captain? And the boat was sinking... |
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| activeverb wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | He wouldn't even look back as all the passengers sank to the bottom of the ocean. He would be off the ship faster than the rats. |
The analogy doesn't make sense to me.
Seems like he was the captain of a ship that made four trips. And after the fourth trip ended and the ship came into shore, he said, "OK, I am getting off now and going to another ship. You guys are free to stay or leave."
| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | | In truth I'm not nearly as upset that he left Miami as I am that he is with Dan Gilbert.. You would have to be a Laker Hater to appreciate anything good coming to that man.. James is pretty weird to be signing with Gilbert after the letter on his website the last four years talking (bleep) about him. |
It's not weird, really. Gilbert threw a hissy fit four years ago. But James is a grown man, and I suspect he doesn't get worked up over piddly stuff like that. I also suspect James doesn't care all that much who owns the team he opts to play for. It's not like players spend a lot of time around team owners. |
Yup, you're spot on. The analogy doesn't work at all. The whole point of the use of the term implies it's time to move on. "My company is a sinking ship" doesn't mean you're supposed to stay until it does. It means, I better get my resume updated and look for another ship.
Lebron went to a 33 win team. He did the opposite of what he was blasted for when we team up with Wade and Bosh and still getting blasted for it. In either case, if one wants to moan and groan about how he didn't stay in Miami, then they should have done so when he met with Kupchak and Kobe. But we didn't. What a surprise. |
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