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Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 2:40 am Post subject:
DJ Slik wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
I like Jeremy, but please don't compare him to Jackie Robinson. Not the same ballpark or stratosphere in terms of time and impact.
fergawdsakes....can people not draw analogies? can people not point out similarities? NO ONE is saying jeremy lin is somehow greater or more impactful or (insert superlative) than jackie robinson. but the two of them and their narratives are similar IN WAYS. he is jackie robinson to a lot of people--doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. if he IS that guy to someone, and he inspires some kid to do something that had not been done, then that's all that matters.
Jackie Robinson was the first to break color lines all across the board in a major American sport during a time of civil unrest. Lin is not even the first Asian, nor the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to ever play in the NBA. To put both in the same sentence is (bleep) asinine.
not asinine at all. lin is the first asian american in the modern NBA game. he's the first to ever do what he did undrafted. he's the first in a lot of ways. and once again, what is asinine is that you don't get that what he REPRESENTS to different people is what matters. you still don't get it, and you never will. there's a reason jackie robinson's name keeps popping up in every discussion board on jeremy lin ever. it's because they were both pioneers in some way. whatever, agree to disagree.
It's not a valid comparison despite your insistence that certain people perceive it that way. You can't just force the inception that "Hey, X is actually Y because I want to believe it is!" The reason Jackie Robinson's name pops up on "every discussion board on jeremy lin ever" isn't because Jeremy broke a color barrier and opened the door for institutionally third-class citizens who were yet ~100 or so years removed from being recognized by their government as personal property. I'm not telling you this to harsh your buzz, I'm telling you this because you will run into future problems (disappointment and hostility) if you continue this historically inaccurate and logically false hyperbole into other threads. People are absolutely going to rip you apart, as they should. It's okay to love Jeremy (I hope I will), but Jackie Robinson? C'mon. _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
I like Jeremy, but please don't compare him to Jackie Robinson. Not the same ballpark or stratosphere in terms of time and impact.
fergawdsakes....can people not draw analogies? can people not point out similarities? NO ONE is saying jeremy lin is somehow greater or more impactful or (insert superlative) than jackie robinson. but the two of them and their narratives are similar IN WAYS. he is jackie robinson to a lot of people--doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. if he IS that guy to someone, and he inspires some kid to do something that had not been done, then that's all that matters.
Jackie Robinson was the first to break color lines all across the board in a major American sport during a time of civil unrest. Lin is not even the first Asian, nor the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to ever play in the NBA. To put both in the same sentence is (bleep) asinine.
not asinine at all. lin is the first asian american in the modern NBA game. he's the first to ever do what he did undrafted. he's the first in a lot of ways. and once again, what is asinine is that you don't get that what he REPRESENTS to different people is what matters. you still don't get it, and you never will. there's a reason jackie robinson's name keeps popping up in every discussion board on jeremy lin ever. it's because they were both pioneers in some way. whatever, agree to disagree.
It's not a valid comparison despite your insistence that certain people perceive it that way. You can't just force the inception that "Hey, X is actually Y because I want to believe it is!" The reason Jackie Robinson's name pops up on "every discussion board on jeremy lin ever" isn't because Jeremy broke a color barrier and opened the door for institutionally third-class citizens who were yet ~100 or so years removed from being recognized by their government as personal property. I'm not telling you this to harsh your buzz, I'm telling you this because you will run into future problems (disappointment and hostility) if you continue this historically inaccurate and logically false hyperbole into other threads. People are absolutely going to rip you apart, as they should. It's okay to love Jeremy (I hope I will), but Jackie Robinson? C'mon.
I prefer the Jeremy Lin as Rosa Parks analogy. He doesn't want to ride the back of the bench.
Lin is a score first PG, which really is not a bad thing. I see him as an upgrade over Ramon Sessions. Working with Nash, and if B. Scott wants him to setup and dish more, I am sure he will. But having a guy out there who can score and create for himself, when Kobe is not on the floor or possibly even in the lineup, is never a bad thing.
He's a pass first, then try to score when no easy shot PG.
I think he's an aggressive point guard that knows how to read the defense as the play develops and becomes a shoot first or pass first depending the situation. Not a lot of guys have that ability. Steve Nash and Chris Paul off the top of my head. Please don't take what I'm saying as Lin is like the other two. That being said given opportunity and trust he may develop into an elite player. He sure has the work ethics to go along with it. That's basically how Nash became who he is. Frankly that's how Kobe became who he is.
I like Jeremy, but please don't compare him to Jackie Robinson. Not the same ballpark or stratosphere in terms of time and impact.
fergawdsakes....can people not draw analogies? can people not point out similarities? NO ONE is saying jeremy lin is somehow greater or more impactful or (insert superlative) than jackie robinson. but the two of them and their narratives are similar IN WAYS. he is jackie robinson to a lot of people--doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. if he IS that guy to someone, and he inspires some kid to do something that had not been done, then that's all that matters.
Jackie Robinson was the first to break color lines all across the board in a major American sport during a time of civil unrest. Lin is not even the first Asian, nor the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to ever play in the NBA. To put both in the same sentence is (bleep) asinine.
not asinine at all. lin is the first asian american in the modern NBA game. he's the first to ever do what he did undrafted. he's the first in a lot of ways. and once again, what is asinine is that you don't get that what he REPRESENTS to different people is what matters. you still don't get it, and you never will. there's a reason jackie robinson's name keeps popping up in every discussion board on jeremy lin ever. it's because they were both pioneers in some way. whatever, agree to disagree.
It's not a valid comparison despite your insistence that certain people perceive it that way. You can't just force the inception that "Hey, X is actually Y because I want to believe it is!" The reason Jackie Robinson's name pops up on "every discussion board on jeremy lin ever" isn't because Jeremy broke a color barrier and opened the door for institutionally third-class citizens who were yet ~100 or so years removed from being recognized by their government as personal property. I'm not telling you this to harsh your buzz, I'm telling you this because you will run into future problems (disappointment and hostility) if you continue this historically inaccurate and logically false hyperbole into other threads. People are absolutely going to rip you apart, as they should. It's okay to love Jeremy (I hope I will), but Jackie Robinson? C'mon.
This is also so true, and I don't even live in the U.S you cannot compare Jeremy Lin with Jackie Robinson, maybe someone like Bruce Lee, but Jeremy Lin? C'mon
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Can we please stop with the Jackie Robinson and Jeremy Lin comparison, its turning into another useless argument.
Making something out of nothing is really....
They're both great/transcendental players and each deserves our respect, IMHO. _________________ == WILL TRY TO IGNORE IDIOTIC POST ABOVE==
R.Hibbert, wearing purple & gold next year = my pipe-dream... Lolz
Can we please stop with the Jackie Robinson and Jeremy Lin comparison, its turning into another useless argument.
Making something out of nothing is really....
They're both great/transcendental players and each deserves our respect, IMHO.
why? it's false knowledge, if not corrected.
and they are not arguing , at least it doesn't sound like it from my own voice.
Can we please stop with the Jackie Robinson and Jeremy Lin comparison, its turning into another useless argument.
Making something out of nothing is really....
They're both great/transcendental players and each deserves our respect, IMHO.
why? it's false knowledge, if not corrected.
and they are not arguing , at least it doesn't sound like it from my own voice.
It sounds like its gonna escalate into one, if it isn't already. _________________ == WILL TRY TO IGNORE IDIOTIC POST ABOVE==
R.Hibbert, wearing purple & gold next year = my pipe-dream... Lolz
Can we please stop with the Jackie Robinson and Jeremy Lin comparison, its turning into another useless argument.
Making something out of nothing is really....
They're both great/transcendental players and each deserves our respect, IMHO.
why? it's false knowledge, if not corrected.
and they are not arguing , at least it doesn't sound like it from my own voice.
It sounds like its gonna escalate into one, if it isn't already.
depends how you read it, I'm reading the words with a smile right now
Yeah, please stop comparing Jeremy with iconic people in sports history. It's not fair to him nor is it fair to the name of the people who earned their place in sporting history. Jeremy is still just beginning his basketball journey. Let his own actions decide what mark in history he will make.
Yeah, please stop comparing Jeremy with iconic people in sports history. It's not fair to him nor is it fair to the name of the people who earned their place in sporting history. Jeremy is still just beginning his basketball journey. Let his own actions decide what mark in history he will make.
okay fine... to close this off.... if were going to be literal on this board
Jackie Robinson was not the first Black BBall player
Lin was not the first Asian American BBall player
you can say Lin was the first Chinese/Taiwanese BBall player
This is also so true, and I don't even live in the U.S you cannot compare Jeremy Lin with Jackie Robinson, maybe someone like Bruce Lee, but Jeremy Lin? C'mon
Jeremy Lin is not Jackie Robinson, the magnitude of their story is not equal.
He is however the first American of asian descent that make it into the NBA. He has done what my generation couldn't do and yes, as an American male of asian descent, I do feel pride in watching this young man excel in the NBA.
So let's celebrate both accomplishments and support this Lakers team
Can we please stop with the Jackie Robinson and Jeremy Lin comparison, its turning into another useless argument.
Making something out of nothing is really....
They're both great/transcendental players and each deserves our respect, IMHO.
ROFL. These posts are like Bynum circa 2008-2010 but around 10,000 times more ludicrous.
I like Jeremy, but please don't compare him to Jackie Robinson. Not the same ballpark or stratosphere in terms of time and impact.
fergawdsakes....can people not draw analogies? can people not point out similarities? NO ONE is saying jeremy lin is somehow greater or more impactful or (insert superlative) than jackie robinson. but the two of them and their narratives are similar IN WAYS. he is jackie robinson to a lot of people--doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. if he IS that guy to someone, and he inspires some kid to do something that had not been done, then that's all that matters.
Jackie Robinson was the first to break color lines all across the board in a major American sport during a time of civil unrest. Lin is not even the first Asian, nor the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to ever play in the NBA. To put both in the same sentence is (bleep) asinine.
not asinine at all. lin is the first asian american in the modern NBA game. he's the first to ever do what he did undrafted. he's the first in a lot of ways. and once again, what is asinine is that you don't get that what he REPRESENTS to different people is what matters. you still don't get it, and you never will. there's a reason jackie robinson's name keeps popping up in every discussion board on jeremy lin ever. it's because they were both pioneers in some way. whatever, agree to disagree.
What you don't get is that there's such a huge gap in their respective cultural significance that it's an absolute insult to Robinson's historic impact on American society and all the (bleep) that he went through to even put them in the same breath. And I say this as an Asian American myself, who's been beaming with tremendous pride witnessing Lin's transformitive rise in the NBA, but yet fully understanding that fact.
What you and others don't understand is that analogous does not mean equivalent.
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 Posts: 19864 Location: Prarie & Manchester, high above the western sideline
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:00 pm Post subject:
DJ Slik wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
I like Jeremy, but please don't compare him to Jackie Robinson. Not the same ballpark or stratosphere in terms of time and impact.
fergawdsakes....can people not draw analogies? can people not point out similarities? NO ONE is saying jeremy lin is somehow greater or more impactful or (insert superlative) than jackie robinson. but the two of them and their narratives are similar IN WAYS. he is jackie robinson to a lot of people--doesn't matter what anyone else thinks. if he IS that guy to someone, and he inspires some kid to do something that had not been done, then that's all that matters.
Jackie Robinson was the first to break color lines all across the board in a major American sport during a time of civil unrest. Lin is not even the first Asian, nor the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th to ever play in the NBA. To put both in the same sentence is (bleep) asinine.
not asinine at all. lin is the first asian american in the modern NBA game. he's the first to ever do what he did undrafted. he's the first in a lot of ways. and once again, what is asinine is that you don't get that what he REPRESENTS to different people is what matters. you still don't get it, and you never will. there's a reason jackie robinson's name keeps popping up in every discussion board on jeremy lin ever. it's because they were both pioneers in some way. whatever, agree to disagree.
What you don't get is that there's such a huge gap in their respective cultural significance that it's an absolute insult to Robinson's historic impact on American society and all the (bleep) that he went through to even put them in the same breath. And I say this as an Asian American myself, who's been beaming with tremendous pride witnessing Lin's transformitive rise in the NBA, but yet fully understanding that fact.
What you and others don't understand is that analogous does not mean equivalent.
But it's not even analogous when considering history that exists outside of your own perception. _________________ http://chickhearn.ytmnd.com/
Okay let's find something interesting to talk about.
Jeremy Lin's hidden stat: Christmas!
Every since he got waived by the Rockets on X'mas 2011, he's been on all X'mas day games and has won all of them.
12/25/2012 the bulls never lost a home X'mas game until that, lucky? maybe
12/25/2013 not sure about them , but they spurs
isn't that interesting?
source :me
I know it's been said over and over again but MAN his game reminds me of Nash so much. Pretty exciting to know that once Nash retires there will be another to take his place. Just like Kobe did for Jordan.
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you cannot compare Jeremy Lin with Jackie Robinson, maybe someone like Bruce Lee, but Jeremy Lin? C'mon 
