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LakersMD
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| Mike@LG wrote: | Can I just put the Harrison twins on the no draft list for outright poor body language?
Or is it just one that is messing it up for both? |
Aaron Harrison is OK. Andrew is awful. |
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Fan0Bynum17
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| It's pretty astounding how bad they've been vs. how highly they were rated. |
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KobeRe-Loaded
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Harrison Twins are brats.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Fan0Bynum17 wrote: | | It's pretty astounding how bad they've been vs. how highly they were rated. |
No draft class is the same.
That's why I'm leery of "#1 PG of his HS Draft class." Could be a very weak crop.
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Dave20
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Players make mistakes and can learn from them. I still like Andrew Harrison's game and think it will translate into the league. |
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44TheLogo
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Dave20 wrote: | | Players make mistakes and can learn from them. I still like Andrew Harrison's game and think it will translate into the league. |
1 speed, no lateral shake, straight line drives into the paint to draw fouls. there's just no nuance to his game whatsoever - he's like a bull in a china shop. Has a below average jumper, and him wildly driving full speed into the paint to throw up wild layups in hopes of drawing fouls is a far cry from what I would call "translatable" to the NBA.
That's just what I see though. What do you see different? |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Would draft Winslow if Towns, Okafor and Russell are off the board. |
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^^^ Agreed. Or WCS
BTW do we have definitive word on what type of drugs Upshaw was using? LG perform a background check on this dude!
I want to know if he's got a serious addiction or if like Stephen A says "he needs to stay OFF the WEEEEeeeeEEEEdddddDDDD!" |
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Problem is I'd be less leery if he was kicked off of one team. But two teams? Shows a character flaw IMO and a future risk. He can't get sobered enough to ensure his livelihood, can you trust him as a piece going forward in games that do matter?
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44TheLogo
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 10:47 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Problem is I'd be less leery if he was kicked off of one team. But two teams? Shows a character flaw IMO and a future risk. He can't get sobered enough to ensure his livelihood, can you trust him as a piece going forward in games that do matter? |
yeah, whatever the drug is, he clearly has an addiction problem. i don't care if it's weed and it's harmless and it should be legal - the fact is that it isn't, and if you can't bring yourself to not do something that's obviously to your detriment, then you have an addiction problem.
he needs help with whatever mental issues he has and i hope that he can get over them. but until that happens, i don't think you can draft him. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| 44TheLogo wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Problem is I'd be less leery if he was kicked off of one team. But two teams? Shows a character flaw IMO and a future risk. He can't get sobered enough to ensure his livelihood, can you trust him as a piece going forward in games that do matter? |
yeah, whatever the drug is, he clearly has an addiction problem. i don't care if it's weed and it's harmless and it should be legal - the fact is that it isn't, and if you can't bring yourself to not do something that's obviously to your detriment, then you have an addiction problem.
he needs help with whatever mental issues he has and i hope that he can get over them. but until that happens, i don't think you can draft him. |
It seems like a gamble that the Lakers would not take.
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Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
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Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 4:28 pm Post subject: |
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Team B.
But can I replace Harris with Middleton?  |
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| I really like Towns and his potential but I'd pick Team A because Winslow and Jordan > Harris and Towns. |
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| MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
A is better defensively.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Team A's defense looks solid. That offense looks horrendous though. |
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yinoma2001
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:26 am Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
A is better defensively. |
Aside from getting a top draft pick, I think Team B is more realistic. Aside from that reality, I'd go with Team A.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
A is better defensively. |
Aside from getting a top draft pick, I think Team B is more realistic. Aside from that reality, I'd go with Team A. |
Sorry, that just did'nt make sense to me.
Let me rephrase what you just said in regards to Team A.
Aside from snatching Jordan in FA team A is more realistic. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Irie wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
A is better defensively. |
Aside from getting a top draft pick, I think Team B is more realistic. Aside from that reality, I'd go with Team A. |
Sorry, that just did'nt make sense to me.
Let me rephrase what you just said in regards to Team A.
Aside from snatching Jordan in FA team A is more realistic. |
Ha, sorry. Early morning. I think it's more realistic to get Team A, since Team B requires a #1 pick and wresting Harris out of RFA.
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I would take team B because Karl isn't a slack on Defense like let's say Love So theyd be competent on D with the ability to score 105+/night
Team A would need Randle to develop a mid range and Winslow to develop a mid range but the D would be top notched and allow Kobe not to exert himself too much.
any of the two would be a major upgrade from what we have now. Next season will be exciting to watch. Might be a year or two off from contention but we are heading to brighter days. |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 8:48 am Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Would draft Winslow if Towns, Okafor and Russell are off the board. |
Agreed. Love Winslow. WCS or Hezonja if Winslow is off the board. I just want the lakers to have a top five pick |
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 11:23 am Post subject: |
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My top 5:
1.) Towns
2.) Okafor
3.) Russell
4.) Hezonja
5.) WCS
I really hope the Lakers have their pick, I think next year is the year to lose it, especially when we'll probably be a better team. |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
Easily team A. |
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| 44TheLogo wrote: | | Dave20 wrote: | | Players make mistakes and can learn from them. I still like Andrew Harrison's game and think it will translate into the league. |
1 speed, no lateral shake, straight line drives into the paint to draw fouls. there's just no nuance to his game whatsoever - he's like a bull in a china shop. Has a below average jumper, and him wildly driving full speed into the paint to throw up wild layups in hopes of drawing fouls is a far cry from what I would call "translatable" to the NBA.
That's just what I see though. What do you see different? |
There's two sides of the ball. Andrew has the size and speed to defend 3 positions. Offensively, he can drive and he's improved his 3 PT shot. He would be a good fit with Clarkson as well. I like his potential a lot more then Tyus Jones who is small and won't be able to defend. |
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44TheLogo
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| Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Which starting lineup would you go with if you had the choice
Team A:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Justise Winslow
Julius Randle
Deandre Jordan
or
Team B:
Jordan Clarkson
Kobe Bryant
Tobias Harris
Julius Randle
Karl Anthony Towns |
Easily Team A but that's because it's not as realistic as Team B. Deandre Jordan will get maxed, there's no way in hell Tobias Harris is a max player. |
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