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Mike@LG Moderator
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Vinny4Lakers wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Wiggins plays like 40 year old kobe in a 19 year old body. Alllll high post |
Paul and Rivers we're on him. |
He always plays like that.. Cuz he can't dribble on the perimeter. I wonder how much his offense is gunna improve. I dont have much faith personally, in terms of improvement |
Fadeaway and Stepbacks.
His next step would be the 2-3 dribble isolation drills; whatever he needs to do to create separation and open up his shot. He has great touch with the wingspan and hands.
He'll end up an effortless 20ppg-25ppg scorer at this point. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
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KeepItRealOrElse Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Mike@LG wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Vinny4Lakers wrote: | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | Wiggins plays like 40 year old kobe in a 19 year old body. Alllll high post |
Paul and Rivers we're on him. |
He always plays like that.. Cuz he can't dribble on the perimeter. I wonder how much his offense is gunna improve. I dont have much faith personally, in terms of improvement |
Fadeaway and Stepbacks.
His next step would be the 2-3 dribble isolation drills; whatever he needs to do to create separation and open up his shot. He has great touch with the wingspan and hands.
He'll end up an effortless 20ppg-25ppg scorer at this point. |
Ya the dribble moves are the next step in the progression , and I think it will be a much needed addition to his game once defenders get used to his high post moves - the rip through and the step back- not difficult moves to defend necessarily, so I think he'll really need to add more to his game. And I question if he's gunna be able pull off the dribble moves. It is in large part a confidence thing tho. Add a little off the dribble game to where he can pull up for the 3ball, or go to work in the high post - I think he'll look like something like a finesse carmelo |
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Inverse Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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The games are running out...Minny keeps losing these close ones, each one of them hurts |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
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JoJo Dancer Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
I see them winning 4 maybe 5 games. It's over as far as catching them |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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JoJo Dancer wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
I see them winning 4 maybe 5 games. It's over as far as catching them |
The optimist in me sees them winning 6 or 7 max....even then it would be hard for them to catch the Lakers in W's.... |
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Rivershow Star Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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JoJo Dancer wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
I see them winning 4 maybe 5 games. It's over as far as catching them |
I disagree.
Denver W
Portland L
@Los Angeles Clippers L
@Phoenix L
@Oklahoma City L
@San Antonio L
Brooklyn W
@Toronto L
@NY Knicks W
Charlotte W
@Utah W
Los Angeles Lakers W
@Houston L
@New Orleans L
Utah L
Toronto L
Orlando W
@Sacramento W
@Portland L
@Los Angeles Lakers W
@Golden State L
New Orleans W
Oklahoma City L
Toss in some possible surprise wins in there too. |
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Sting Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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dam that 3 game win streak just stupid.. wth was that all about |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2015 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sting wrote: | dam that 3 game win streak just stupid.. wth was that all about |
that was about lakers being lakers. meaning no plan lakers |
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misterrunon Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 1:18 am Post subject: |
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I still think the Wolves will pass us up. They are healthy again and staying relatively close against the better teams in the league... plus KG is going to get them playing hard. |
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kobe_luver Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | Sting wrote: | dam that 3 game win streak just stupid.. wth was that all about |
that was about lakers being lakers. meaning no plan lakers |
I don't believe they don't have a plan. |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:36 am Post subject: |
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Rivershow wrote: | JoJo Dancer wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
I see them winning 4 maybe 5 games. It's over as far as catching them |
I disagree.
Denver W
Portland L
@Los Angeles Clippers L
@Phoenix L
@Oklahoma City L
@San Antonio L
Brooklyn W
@Toronto L
@NY Knicks W
Charlotte W
@Utah W
Los Angeles Lakers W
@Houston L
@New Orleans L
Utah L
Toronto L
Orlando W
@Sacramento W
@Portland L
@Los Angeles Lakers W
@Golden State L
New Orleans W
Oklahoma City L
Toss in some possible surprise wins in there too. |
I think 8 or 9 of the 23..... I think the whole key will be our 2 games against them. "IF" we split with them, kiss the top 3 spot bye bye.... But if we lose both to them, I think we will be right there with them at 21/22 wins, a real chance at a coin toss.... |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 5:58 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Next 11-12 games, I see:
Lakers: 3-9
Orlando: 2-10
Nuggets: 1-10
Minny: 6-6.
My guess is that with around 12 games left at the 70 game mark:
1. NY
2. 76ers
3. Lakers: 19-51
4. Minny: 19-51
5. Denver: 21-49
6. Orlando: 21-52.
The team that concerns me the most is Denver. They are free falling. |
It is as if you can read my mind..... ...... I think this too, the only thing you may have off is that the Nuggets will win one. As you said they are free falling. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done we end up 4th behind the Nuggets who could very well end up in the 3 spot, with Minny at 6, and the magic at 5 right on our heels...
The Nuggets and Magic are in full tilt lose mode.... |
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:05 am Post subject: |
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FreakofNature wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next 11-12 games, I see:
Lakers: 3-9
Orlando: 2-10
Nuggets: 1-10
Minny: 6-6.
My guess is that with around 12 games left at the 70 game mark:
1. NY
2. 76ers
3. Lakers: 19-51
4. Minny: 19-51
5. Denver: 21-49
6. Orlando: 21-52.
The team that concerns me the most is Denver. They are free falling. |
It is as if you can read my mind..... ...... I think this too, the only thing you may have off is that the Nuggets will win one. As you said they are free falling. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done we end up 4th behind the Nuggets who could very well end up in the 3 spot, with Minny at 6, and the magic at 5 right on our heels...
The Nuggets and Magic are in full tilt lose mode.... |
Bear in mind that in my projections, there's 12 games left. Not sure lakers can get to #3 though. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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nashftw Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:43 am Post subject: |
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misterrunon wrote: | I still think the Wolves will pass us up. They are healthy again and staying relatively close against the better teams in the league... plus KG is going to get them playing hard. |
yup agree. KG has raised the defensive intensity plus the return to form of Rubio and you've got a team that plays with playoff level desire. it's quite refreshing to see actually, their last few games have been high level ones and they're really aiming to win. good for the lakers as well. |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:44 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | FreakofNature wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next 11-12 games, I see:
Lakers: 3-9
Orlando: 2-10
Nuggets: 1-10
Minny: 6-6.
My guess is that with around 12 games left at the 70 game mark:
1. NY
2. 76ers
3. Lakers: 19-51
4. Minny: 19-51
5. Denver: 21-49
6. Orlando: 21-52.
The team that concerns me the most is Denver. They are free falling. |
It is as if you can read my mind..... ...... I think this too, the only thing you may have off is that the Nuggets will win one. As you said they are free falling. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done we end up 4th behind the Nuggets who could very well end up in the 3 spot, with Minny at 6, and the magic at 5 right on our heels...
The Nuggets and Magic are in full tilt lose mode.... |
Bear in mind that in my projections, there's 12 games left. Not sure lakers can get to #3 though. |
It will be tough,but.... If I were a betting man, thankfully I am not, I would bet on a very tight finish at the end with us the Nuggets and Minny. Those 2 games against Minny will be the win or break for that 3 spot, and perhaps the 4th spot.... We let those pesky Nuggets and magic back in the race with that 3 game winning streak. I was all fired up for that 2 spot even, then came the 3 game win streak...... It's a bizzaro world now, a win streak is actually a loss streak these days.... |
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FreakofNature Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 6:47 am Post subject: |
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nashftw wrote: | misterrunon wrote: | I still think the Wolves will pass us up. They are healthy again and staying relatively close against the better teams in the league... plus KG is going to get them playing hard. |
yup agree. KG has raised the defensive intensity plus the return to form of Rubio and you've got a team that plays with playoff level desire. it's quite refreshing to see actually, their last few games have been high level ones and they're really aiming to win. good for the lakers as well. |
I think so too, the Wolves are going to win games, but.... They are 3 wins back, and I think it will come down to the wire, the key will be our 2 games against them.
Actually the Nuggets and Magic may even be a bigger concern, the Nuggets as Yinoma mentioned in another post are totally free falling, they are scary bad right now.... |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Nuggets have a lame duck coach, they traded of Mozgov/McGee. Guys are disillusioned and playing for nothing right now. They know Denver will likely trade off half the main players on that team too so there is just nothing to play for at this point. I'm scared of that team.
At least with Orlando, they want to end the season on a better note. Minny is really playing hard, just haven't developed the habits to be a winning team so they're learning on the fly. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:03 am Post subject: |
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lakersken80 wrote: | Games left for the T'Wolves...
Denver
Portland
@Los Angeles Clippers
@Phoenix
@Oklahoma City
@San Antonio
Brooklyn
@Toronto
@NY Knicks
Charlotte
@Utah
Los Angeles Lakers
@Houston
@New Orleans
Utah
Toronto
Orlando
@Sacramento
@Portland
@Los Angeles Lakers
@Golden State
New Orleans
Oklahoma City |
That is a brutal schedule |
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:05 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Nuggets have a lame duck coach, they traded of Mozgov/McGee. Guys are disillusioned and playing for nothing right now. They know Denver will likely trade off half the main players on that team too so there is just nothing to play for at this point. I'm scared of that team.
At least with Orlando, they want to end the season on a better note. Minny is really playing hard, just haven't developed the habits to be a winning team so they're learning on the fly. |
AGREED!
Nuggets have been in hyper-tank mode for at least two months and are falling rapidly. |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 7:32 am Post subject: |
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24 wrote: | GoldenThroat wrote: | The offense that Minnesota runs is absolutely terrible. I wonder how many games it's cost them. No wonder they win at such a higher clip with Rubio. The system doesn't create shot, so a player has to. |
Is Byron Scott coaching two teams? |
Flip has always had a crazy fetish for the mid range jumper, even relative to other teams in the late 90s early 00s era.
They are the other team besides us that I noticed who will spot up a big 20 feet from the basket right next to a pick and roll, so that the only result will be the big taking that shot.
Even so, the Wolves get to the basket more than we do. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | FreakofNature wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next 11-12 games, I see:
Lakers: 3-9
Orlando: 2-10
Nuggets: 1-10
Minny: 6-6.
My guess is that with around 12 games left at the 70 game mark:
1. NY
2. 76ers
3. Lakers: 19-51
4. Minny: 19-51
5. Denver: 21-49
6. Orlando: 21-52.
The team that concerns me the most is Denver. They are free falling. |
It is as if you can read my mind..... ...... I think this too, the only thing you may have off is that the Nuggets will win one. As you said they are free falling. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done we end up 4th behind the Nuggets who could very well end up in the 3 spot, with Minny at 6, and the magic at 5 right on our heels...
The Nuggets and Magic are in full tilt lose mode.... |
Bear in mind that in my projections, there's 12 games left. Not sure lakers can get to #3 though. |
They r all loses. We might not win 1 |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:24 am Post subject: |
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Brian Shaw fired. Guess they will win couple now? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | FreakofNature wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Next 11-12 games, I see:
Lakers: 3-9
Orlando: 2-10
Nuggets: 1-10
Minny: 6-6.
My guess is that with around 12 games left at the 70 game mark:
1. NY
2. 76ers
3. Lakers: 19-51
4. Minny: 19-51
5. Denver: 21-49
6. Orlando: 21-52.
The team that concerns me the most is Denver. They are free falling. |
It is as if you can read my mind..... ...... I think this too, the only thing you may have off is that the Nuggets will win one. As you said they are free falling. I wouldn't be surprised if when all is said and done we end up 4th behind the Nuggets who could very well end up in the 3 spot, with Minny at 6, and the magic at 5 right on our heels...
The Nuggets and Magic are in full tilt lose mode.... |
Bear in mind that in my projections, there's 12 games left. Not sure lakers can get to #3 though. |
They r all loses. We might not win 1 |
I hope so my brother. I hope so. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 9:32 am Post subject: |
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Now that Brain Shaw got fired maybe Denver can start winning some games! |
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