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LostPuppy Sixth Man
Joined: 08 Jul 2014 Posts: 61
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:29 pm Post subject: |
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So small ball p n r system it seems like.
#Hustle#Motor
Lin,Clarkson,Kobe,Randle,Davis
Nash/Marshall, Young, X, Kelly/Hill, Sacre/Hill
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Lin, Kobe, Randle, Hill, Davis
Clarkson/Nash/Marsh, Young/Clarkson, X, Kelly, Sacre |
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LakerEric Star Player
Joined: 03 May 2002 Posts: 7193 Location: Vegas
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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you forgot DeAndre Kane who is better than Marcus Smart
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LostPuppy Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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best overall talent? |
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Jellojigglin Star Player
Joined: 18 May 2001 Posts: 1548 Location: Venice, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:51 am Post subject: |
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7 Jeremy Lin PG 26 6-3 200 Harvard (Starter)
5 Jordan Clarkson PG 22 6-5 193 Missouri
12 Kendall Marshall PG 22 6-4 195 North Carolina
10 Steve Nash PG 40 6-3 178 Santa Clara
24 Kobe Bryant SG 35 6-6 205 (Starter)
0 Nick Young SF 29 6-7 210 USC (Starter)
4 Ryan Kelly PF 23 6-11 230 Duke
30 Julius Randle PF 19 6-9 250 Kentucky
00 Ed Davis PF 25 6-10 225 North Carolina (Starter)
50 Robert Sacre C 25 7-0 260 Gonzaga
27 Jordan Hill PF/C 26 6-10 235 Arizona (Starter)
Maybe some summer league shooters? X Henry, Tompkins, Woolridge Jr. or Beabouis _________________ "Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even"
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LAKERMIKE2 Star Player
Joined: 26 Oct 2005 Posts: 2080 Location: Jack's Crib
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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Jellojigglin wrote: | 7 Jeremy Lin PG 26 6-3 200 Harvard (Starter)
5 Jordan Clarkson PG 22 6-5 193 Missouri
12 Kendall Marshall PG 22 6-4 195 North Carolina
10 Steve Nash PG 40 6-3 178 Santa Clara
24 Kobe Bryant SG 35 6-6 205 (Starter)
7 Xavier Henry SF 23 6-6 220 Kansas
0 Nick Young SF 29 6-7 210 USC (Starter)
4 Ryan Kelly PF 23 6-11 230 Duke
30 Julius Randle PF 19 6-9 250 Kentucky
00 Ed Davis PF 25 6-10 225 North Carolina (Starter)
50 Robert Sacre C 25 7-0 260 Gonzaga
27 Jordan Hill PF/C 26 6-10 235 Arizona (Starter)
Maybe some summer league shooters? Tompkins, Woolridge Jr. or Beabouis |
Out of this roster, only one player is willing & tries to play defense = Jordan Hill... It's gonna be a long season & not looking forward to being down by 18 points a game at half time once again... _________________ My Laker squad.
Mr. Clutch, Nixon, Eddie, Nick, Magic, Kareem,
Silk, Cooper, AC, Worthy, Horry, Shaq, Kobe.
HC: Riley |
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Jellojigglin Star Player
Joined: 18 May 2001 Posts: 1548 Location: Venice, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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LAKERMIKE2 wrote: | Jellojigglin wrote: | 7 Jeremy Lin PG 26 6-3 200 Harvard (Starter)
5 Jordan Clarkson PG 22 6-5 193 Missouri
12 Kendall Marshall PG 22 6-4 195 North Carolina
10 Steve Nash PG 40 6-3 178 Santa Clara
24 Kobe Bryant SG 35 6-6 205 (Starter)
7 Xavier Henry SF 23 6-6 220 Kansas
0 Nick Young SF 29 6-7 210 USC (Starter)
4 Ryan Kelly PF 23 6-11 230 Duke
30 Julius Randle PF 19 6-9 250 Kentucky
00 Ed Davis PF 25 6-10 225 North Carolina (Starter)
50 Robert Sacre C 25 7-0 260 Gonzaga
27 Jordan Hill PF/C 26 6-10 235 Arizona (Starter)
Maybe some summer league shooters? Tompkins, Woolridge Jr. or Beabouis |
Out of this roster, only one player is willing & tries to play defense = Jordan Hill... It's gonna be a long season & not looking forward to being down by 18 points a game at half time once again... | I agree from what I can see Ed Davis and Randle are pretty solid. _________________ "Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even" |
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Swift Starting Rotation
Joined: 27 Jan 2012 Posts: 440
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Lin/Nash/Marshall/Clarkson
Kobe
Young/Xavier
Randle/Boozer/Davis/Kelly
Hill/Sacre |
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Jellojigglin Star Player
Joined: 18 May 2001 Posts: 1548 Location: Venice, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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First Team
Lin\Bryant
Young\Boozer\Hill
Second Team
Marshall\Clarkson
Randle\Davis\Sacre
--ROSTER--
Point Guards
7 Jeremy Lin PG 26 6-3 200 Harvard (Starter)
5 Jordan Clarkson PG 22 6-5 193 Missouri
12 Kendall Marshall PG 22 6-4 195 North Carolina
Shooting Guards
24 Kobe Bryant SG 35 6-6 205 (Starter)
Small Forwards
0 Nick Young SF 29 6-7 210 USC (Starter)
Power Forwards
4 Ryan Kelly PF 23 6-11 230 Duke
30 Julius Randle PF 19 6-9 250 Kentucky
00 Ed Davis PF 25 6-10 225 North Carolina
00 Carlos Boozer PF 33 6-9 266 Duke (Starter)
Centers
50 Robert Sacre C 25 7-0 260 Gonzaga
27 Jordan Hill PF/C 26 6-10 235 Arizona (Starter)
Looks like 11 players to me that are fixed, most Likely additions? Steve Nash (not getting dumped), Xavier Henry, Tompkins, Woolridge Jr. or Beabouis _________________ "Bobbin' and weavin' and let the good get even" |
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SP_Fever Star Player
Joined: 15 Sep 2006 Posts: 3519 Location: Toronto, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Lakers are the first team in NBA history to implement a entire lineup without any Small Forward, you heard it here first _________________ Phil Jackson (June 17th, 2009):"What was our model of this team? The Ring, the ring, that was the model. Its not just this band of gold, its the circle that's made a bond between all of these players, a great love for one another, its a great feeling." |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 14944
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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I spoke too soon about Boozer.
Updated the roster w/our newest addition. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
#Avatar-gate
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epak Retired Number
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 34147
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Did we get Barnes yet? |
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Jajwanda Star Player
Joined: 17 Nov 2012 Posts: 2784
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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SP_Fever wrote: | Lakers are the first team in NBA history to implement a entire lineup without any Small Forward, you heard it here first |
I think Kobe is the SF and Nick Young is his backup, with Henry the third guy. It's very possible that L.A. is not going towards small-ball but rather as small as possible ball without being undersized.
They're going bare minimum height and size wise on the wing and in the post. |
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Romano338 Star Player
Joined: 12 Nov 2013 Posts: 1150
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Great roster actually!
Very well built, players everywhere, good rotation!
Nice work! |
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Lakerpark Star Player
Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2117
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:54 am Post subject: |
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As much as I would like to see JLin start and do well, to me it seems that starting Nash for a few minutes might be more beneficial to the team.
Nash would be more warmed up at the start of the game.
Nash can be the marksman shooter playing with Kobe who will as usual be ball dominant.
Nash could play some pick and roll with Boozer if for some reason they decide to start Boozer over Randle.
Bring Lin in after Nash plays a couple of minutes.
Have Lin finish the games.
So that would make a starting line up of:
Hill
Boozer
SF
Kobe (unless Kobe plays SF)
Nash
Maybe Xavier could fill that SF or SG position, which ever one Kobe doesn't play.
Then the bench could be:
Ed Davis or maybe RKelly if you want to open up the middle for Randle)
Randle
SF
Young
Lin
Maybe Clarkson can play SG for the bench and Young can move to SF?
Just a thought..... |
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Lakerpark Star Player
Joined: 09 Nov 2002 Posts: 2117
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I think the Lakers still need a good two way SF. Are there any available?
Could Xavier (barring injuries) step up and be that person? Isn't he like 6'6 o r 6'7?
I'm sure he learned a lot last season actually getting some playing time.
Hopefully he has been working on his outside shooting and freethrows. |
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Team of the 80's Star Player
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 6095 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 8:49 am Post subject: |
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X is coming off surgery so I would expect him to be about the same. Poor shooter, poor at the FT line. No thanks. |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 14944
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:18 am Post subject: |
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Updated - X is back. Lakers have a 10 man roster now _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Updated to include Wes Johnson.
We have 11 signed players now. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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danzag Franchise Player
Joined: 28 Apr 2013 Posts: 22382 Location: Brazil
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ryan Kelly signed.
Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan · 6 min
Busy day for the Lakers, who reached agreement with Ryan Kelly, Xavier Henry and Wesley Johnson. Not many roster spots left.
Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan · 2 min
Don't know terms for Kelly yet. Guessing either one or two years. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet:
Nash | Kobe | Wes | Boozer | Davis
Lin | Young | Henry | Randle | Hill
I like it. And just in case: Kelly, Clarkson, Sacre.
I think we're going to go after one more PG. Unless the team is going to go all in with Clarkson. |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 6:03 pm Post subject: |
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danzag wrote: | Ryan Kelly signed.
Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan · 6 min
Busy day for the Lakers, who reached agreement with Ryan Kelly, Xavier Henry and Wesley Johnson. Not many roster spots left.
Mike Bresnahan @Mike_Bresnahan · 2 min
Don't know terms for Kelly yet. Guessing either one or two years. |
Thank you sir. Updated.
I think it is $1M ... since Lakers made him a qualifying offer. Not sure about a 2nd yr option etc. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:47 am Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Sweet:
Nash | Kobe | Wes | Boozer | Davis
Lin | Young | Henry | Randle | Hill
I like it. And just in case: Kelly, Clarkson, Sacre.
I think we're going to go after one more PG. Unless the team is going to go all in with Clarkson. |
I think Mitch has done a great job ... especially to maintain flexibility.
My guess on the starting lineup
PF - Boozer
F - Wes Johnson
C - Hill
G - Kobe
PG - Lin
Key bench guys
G/F - Nick Young
F/C - Ed Davis
F - Ryan Kelly
G - Xavier
We go 9 deep and i'm not even counting on Nash contributing. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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Omar Little Moderator
Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 90307 Location: Formerly Known As 24
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 10:51 am Post subject: |
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KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | epak wrote: | Sweet:
Nash | Kobe | Wes | Boozer | Davis
Lin | Young | Henry | Randle | Hill
I like it. And just in case: Kelly, Clarkson, Sacre.
I think we're going to go after one more PG. Unless the team is going to go all in with Clarkson. |
I think Mitch has done a great job ... especially to maintain flexibility.
My guess on the starting lineup
PF - Boozer
F - Wes Johnson
C - Hill
G - Kobe
PG - Lin
Key bench guys
G/F - Nick Young
F/C - Ed Davis
F - Ryan Kelly
G - Xavier
We go 9 deep and i'm not even counting on Nash contributing. |
Just a small hint: randle... _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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KobeRe-Loaded Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:04 am Post subject: |
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24 wrote: | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | epak wrote: | Sweet:
Nash | Kobe | Wes | Boozer | Davis
Lin | Young | Henry | Randle | Hill
I like it. And just in case: Kelly, Clarkson, Sacre.
I think we're going to go after one more PG. Unless the team is going to go all in with Clarkson. |
I think Mitch has done a great job ... especially to maintain flexibility.
My guess on the starting lineup
PF - Boozer
F - Wes Johnson
C - Hill
G - Kobe
PG - Lin
Key bench guys
G/F - Nick Young
F - Julius Randle
F/C - Ed Davis
F - Ryan Kelly
G - Xavier
We go 9 deep and i'm not even counting on Nash contributing. |
Just a small hint: randle... |
Haha oops ... rookie
10 deep!! If things click, who knows Lakers could be fighting for an 8th seed.
I really think this group could surprise under the right system.
Team is bound to have some luck especially with health. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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misterioso Starting Rotation
Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 616
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Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:15 pm Post subject: Re: Current (7/14/14) Cap Situation and Roster |
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nomoreshaq wrote: | can anyone please clarify WHO we have signed and what our cap space potential still is?
Kobe - signed
Randle - signed
Lin - acquired
Sacre - signed (is his contract guaranteed)?
Marshall - did we pick up his option? if not, when do we have to do so? is his contract guaranteed?
Kelly - did we extend him a QO? I guess no one has offered him a contract other than us? if he accepts, how much and is it guaranteed?
Young - agreed to, but unsigned?
Hill - agreed to, but unsigned?
Nash - signed for, can be stretched
Clarkson - assuming he gets a minimum contract from us
so with the guys accounted for, and with the guaranteed money accounted for and taking into consideration the current cap holds (and bird rights in hill's case), what is the theoretical potential cap space we could have left?
9, 10 million? |
I've been working off Eric's Laker Team Salary Page on Basketball Insiders and Sportrac's Laker Page and their Cap Table.
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Name 2014-15
Kobe Bryant $23,500,000
Steve Nash $ 9,701,000
Jeremy Lin $ 8,374,646
Carlos Boozer $ 3,251,000
Julius Randle $ 2,997,360
Robert Sacre $ 915,243
Sub-Total $48,739,249
Jordan Hill (unsigned) $ 9,000,000
Nick Young (unsigned) $ 5,018,231
Ryan Kelly (unsigned) $ 1,016,482
Ed Davis (unsigned) $ 981,084
Wesley Johnson (unsigned) $ 915,243
Xavier Henry (unsigned) $ 915,243
Sub-Total $17,846,283
Guaranteed Total: $65,569,050
Inclusive Total: $66,585,532
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Cap max is $63,065,000. As of right now, the Lakers have $14,325,751 of cap space, so long as those guys don't ink their deals.
With the exception of the unsigned guys (Hill, X, Wes, Nick, Kelly), the remaining cap holds are wiped out because Jodie, Farmar, Bazemore, Pau all signed.
Something has got to be up.
No coach, players with agreements still not signed, Kobe now saying everything is peachie poo in Laker Land and he understands the plan.
I don't know what to make of this. I can speculate, but it's almost pointless. |
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