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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Both Chicago and LA will be counting on getting guys who want to prove their last team wrong. Boozer is also playing for the next contract. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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This should be a good situation for Boozer.
No longer overpaid, and no championship expectations or even playoff expectations from the fans.
He definitely got hated a lot just because he was an easy target and they needed to point the finger at someone.
Hopefully we can resurrect his career this season with us, shut the haters and doubters wrong! |
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LeBronte Jest Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Telleris wrote: | TheGood83 wrote: | If he plays well, he's bolting for the highest bidder for sure. He's done that his whole career. I can't believe he's only 32, he looks and plays like a 36 year old. |
Boozer's agent is Kobe's, ie Pelinka, every guy on Pelinka's list doesn't do discounts and always wants the money. |
We made out like bandits on the Ed Davis deal, lol. |
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lakez34 Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Guy's always been the epitome of empty stats. You watch enough Bulls games, and before that Jazz games, you'd see that. Empty stats are still better than NO stats, so not complaining, but neither of the articles really make me think he's anything more than a scorer + decent rebounder. We could use both so still a good pickup. |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:30 am Post subject: |
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THE Rightplay wrote: | as i recall, boozer (when on the jazz) made us pull our hair out against pau, like sheed, cweb, and duncan used to against horry... big shot bob ahaha |
Pau and Lamar did unspeakable things to Boozer. Them dominating Booz, who struggled mightily against length, was a big reason why we kicked Jazz ass in the playoffs. We did to the Jazz in '08-'10 what they did to us back in the '90s before we got Phil Jackson, which was basically eliminate us from the playoffs for a good two or three year stretch. The only guy pulling out his hair was Jerry Sloan as he drank himself to sleep every night trying to erase from his mind the awful damage Pau and Lamar did to his "star" power forward. |
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ginia1110 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:16 am Post subject: |
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He's cheap and can still play, what's not to love about him?
btw, are we only getting him for one year? _________________ == WILL TRY TO IGNORE IDIOTIC POST ABOVE==
R.Hibbert, wearing purple & gold next year = my pipe-dream... Lolz |
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brian313 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Now I really want D'antoni back, so that he can run a ultra small ball line up, with Boozer at C and Randle at PF. Imagine that defense |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:42 am Post subject: |
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Choson1 wrote: | This is a 55 win team:
C Hill Sacre
PF Randle Boozer Kelly Davis
SF Young
SG Kobe Clarkson Henry
PG Nash Lin Marshall
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Between two seasons maybe. |
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Car54 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:48 am Post subject: |
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lakez34 wrote: | Guy's always been the epitome of empty stats. You watch enough Bulls games, and before that Jazz games, you'd see that. Empty stats are still better than NO stats, so not complaining, but neither of the articles really make me think he's anything more than a scorer + decent rebounder. We could use both so still a good pickup. |
How are they empty stats if his team have consistently made the playoffs without their best player in Rose? _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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dont_be_a_wuss Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:50 am Post subject: |
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Rivershow wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | Voices wrote: | If the Bulls thought Boozer was a bad defender, wait till Chicago fans get a taste of Gasol getting pushed around and being driven on. |
Big difference: Pau is tall. Boozer is vertically challenged. |
Pau didn't play tall his last few years here. With Boozer here it'll be like he never left. |
How does Boozers lateral speed compare to Pau's? Pau was dealing with those foot injuries and couldn't move laterally very well at all. If he got close to a guy they went right around him. It caused him to adjust and give guys a little bit more space than normal. So although Pau is longer, he played further off his man to avoid letting his man go around him. This gave them plenty of space to shoot jumpers. Hopefully Boozer can at least stay in close and stay in front of his man. |
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VegasLakerFan Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:19 am Post subject: |
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mhan00 wrote: | THE Rightplay wrote: | as i recall, boozer (when on the jazz) made us pull our hair out against pau, like sheed, cweb, and duncan used to against horry... big shot bob ahaha |
Pau and Lamar did unspeakable things to Boozer. Them dominating Booz, who struggled mightily against length, was a big reason why we kicked Jazz ass in the playoffs. We did to the Jazz in '08-'10 what they did to us back in the '90s before we got Phil Jackson, which was basically eliminate us from the playoffs for a good two or three year stretch. The only guy pulling out his hair was Jerry Sloan as he drank himself to sleep every night trying to erase from his mind the awful damage Pau and Lamar did to his "star" power forward. |
Pau and Lamar should've been brought up on charges for what they did to that Jazz frontline. Just... awful, horrible things. No power forward should ever have to see those things. |
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governator Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Boozer, randle, hill, Davis... good front court core
Kelly, Sacre... decent front court back up
Lin, SwaggyP, Xavier... decent back court
Kobe if healthy... Top back court guy
Wes Johnson... decent back court back up
Nash... expiring contract
If we could sign a legit C and a legit SF/perimeter defender, and somehow the coach can find the right system/team D... we could be a dark horse contender
Well, all depends on Kobe's health |
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bevwenz Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:32 am Post subject: |
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The 2 articles mentioned in the thread title really don't address the core issue w/ Boozer, which is that he has declined significantly over the past few years. He used to be, even under Thibs, a productive and efficient offensive player from the rim out to mid-range. As of last season, he no longer is productive or efficient anywhere. The 2 year evolution of his decline is quite severe. I posted this link somewhere else, but it belongs better here. Take a look at Boozer's shot efficiency vs. other NBA players over the last 3 years (Red is really good, Blue is really bad, with colors scaled in-between).
http://screencast.com/t/xcfbKDnN1jr
As for defense, as many have said, he was never good (outside of rebounding where he is still effective even now). The thought of him playing C here is disappointing, to say the least. As a rim protector, he is a sieve, to be kind. Just one example, last year he was one of only 3 full time bigs in the entire NBA to allow 55% or greater opponents at Rim FG%, defined as the defender being within five feet of the basket and within five feet of the offensive player attempting the shot (accounts for help D and other players shooting this way). Btw, the other 2 were Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson. |
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DLaker Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:38 am Post subject: |
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bevwenz wrote: | The 2 articles mentioned in the thread title really don't address the core issue w/ Boozer, which is that he has declined significantly over the past few years. He used to be, even under Thibs, a productive and efficient offensive player from the rim out to mid-range. As of last season, he no longer is productive or efficient anywhere. The 2 year evolution of his decline is quite severe. I posted this link somewhere else, but it belongs better here. Take a look at Boozer's shot efficiency vs. other NBA players over the last 3 years (Red is really good, Blue is really bad, with colors scaled in-between).
http://screencast.com/t/xcfbKDnN1jr
As for defense, as many have said, he was never good (outside of rebounding where he is still effective even now). The thought of him playing C here is disappointing, to say the least. As a rim protector, he is a sieve, to be kind. Just one example, last year he was one of only 3 full time bigs in the entire NBA to allow 55% or greater opponents at Rim FG%, defined as the defender being within five feet of the basket and within five feet of the offensive player attempting the shot (accounts for help D and other players shooting this way). Btw, the other 2 were Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson. |
Wonder Rose only playing 10 game the last too season has something to do with that offensive decline. YUP YUP
Def has always been his weekness. |
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Fo11ower91 Rookie
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I love this signing. He's better than current Pau and he is good on both ends of the court. |
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fadeaway3 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Troublesome626 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | finally someone relevant! Thank you Mitch! Now get a good SF! |
Michael Beasley? | Please don't ruin my lunch!! |
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Lakerfan 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:39 am Post subject: |
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fadeaway3 wrote: | Troublesome626 wrote: | KobeDunk wrote: | finally someone relevant! Thank you Mitch! Now get a good SF! |
Michael Beasley? | Please don't ruin my lunch!! |
Lakers roster could be set at 14. So if the Lakers are looking for another SF my order would be Shawn Marion, Evan Turner, Al-Farouq Aminu, Metta World Peace and then Michael Beasley. |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I actually like the front court a lot. Much more than last year for sure.
Randle
Hill
Boozer
Davis
Very athletic, can get up and down the court with any other bigs. Good re bounders, especially Hill and Randle on the offensive end. They will all give a good effort on defense. I didn't mention Kelly, but he obviously can stretch the floor. He's just not a good rebounder and can't push anyone out of the paint that ways more than 80 lbs. Sacre is Sacre, we got an extra 6 fouls to use. |
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RusselDoeee01 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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LOVE the front court. Boozer can score, Hill out hustles any player in the league and who knows what will happen with Randle. Should be exciting! |
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kobeandgary Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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moonwalker8701 wrote: | Still a consummate professional. Veteran. Very similar to Randle. He'll show him the ropes. |
If anything Randle is similar to Boozer. |
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LakersMD Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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DLaker wrote: | bevwenz wrote: | The 2 articles mentioned in the thread title really don't address the core issue w/ Boozer, which is that he has declined significantly over the past few years. He used to be, even under Thibs, a productive and efficient offensive player from the rim out to mid-range. As of last season, he no longer is productive or efficient anywhere. The 2 year evolution of his decline is quite severe. I posted this link somewhere else, but it belongs better here. Take a look at Boozer's shot efficiency vs. other NBA players over the last 3 years (Red is really good, Blue is really bad, with colors scaled in-between).
http://screencast.com/t/xcfbKDnN1jr |
Wonder Rose only playing 10 game the last too season has something to do with that offensive decline. YUP YUP |
I hope you're right. And we'll get the answer to that question this year. I'm not comparing Lin/Nash to Rose in any way but they are both adept at setting guys up in pick and roll and pick and pop situations. If Boozer can't improve his efficiency playing with those two, then he'll be out of excuses.
Defense is a lost cause with Boozer though. |
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LakeShow06 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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Glad we got Boozer. Him on the Lakers seemed like fate. I really thought someone else would bid/claim him. He will contribute and gives us a genuine veteran presence in the frontcourt. _________________ "We might have had the worst season ever or could have the worst season ever for a Lakers team, but now let's have the greatest comeback that the league has ever seen." - Kobe Bryant |
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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ginia1110 wrote: | He's cheap and can still play, what's not to love about him?
btw, are we only getting him for one year? |
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EmoDias Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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Nice pick up for the Lakers. Boozer makes us even more versatile offensively. I hope they don't start him and Nash together and play old and slow ball again tho.
It would be nice to have another legit center besides Sacre to man the middle in small spurts. Maybe Bynum or J. Oneil? |
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tkrieger Rookie
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Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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The big question with Boozer is how much tread is left on those tires..... The old Boozer was a monster on the glass and had a reliable 8 to 10 foot jumper.... If he can set some jarring screens for Kobe and Lin, we might see the offense really open up. |
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