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paymonM Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 9:41 am Post subject: |
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Lakers are not starting a 19 year old. Will never happen. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:00 am Post subject: |
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K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Boozer would need to lose a lot of weight and work on his foot-speed to play the SF.... that article seems like a typo..... he has a clear-cut PF body now if it was Kelly playing the 3 spot I would understand cause he has nice footspeed and can keep up with other SF's. |
Or Boozer could take the opposing SFs down low and abuse them. Positions in the NBA have changed, the fans are the last to notice. It is about matchups, and some will favor Boozer at SF and some won't. When they don't, you use a different lineup. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Voices Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Positions in the NBA are no longer stereotypical, in you can as a coach get a good matchup by playing players out their normal positions you do it. The need to have a coach that counters matchup is more important than ever, hopefully B will b a good in game coach. _________________ .....
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ALTHOUGH HE STANDS 6 FEET 2 INCHES, JIM BUSS ATTENDED JOCKEY SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS 20. |
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Lakerfan 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:22 am Post subject: |
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Is this Jim Buss' doing? |
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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: |
Is this Jim Buss' doing? |
ya i saw that on real gm also. what a stupid report....
we don't even have a coach yet, how are we gonna pencil in anything.
HC is gonna decides who plays where....
and there is no way in hell Boozer gonna play 3. Even playing Randle there is a reach.... |
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LakersNewEra Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 11:31 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Boozer would need to lose a lot of weight and work on his foot-speed to play the SF.... that article seems like a typo..... he has a clear-cut PF body now if it was Kelly playing the 3 spot I would understand cause he has nice footspeed and can keep up with other SF's. |
Or Boozer could take the opposing SFs down low and abuse them. Positions in the NBA have changed, the fans are the last to notice. It is about matchups, and some will favor Boozer at SF and some won't. When they don't, you use a different lineup. |
Sure thing the positions have changed but they have gotten smaller. Yesterdays tweeners or SF's are today's PF's. Players who would have been PF's before are centers now.
It is because of the bigger emphasis on speed and spacing.
LMAO at the idea of Boozer playing SF, sorry, it's just very funny to me. He can get away with playing center nowadays but not SF haha. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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That has to be a typo no, Boozer playing SF??? Even Randle playing that position full time is a slight stretch, but Boozer there is a joke. No foot speed to stay on the perimeter and all you need is one pump fake and he's either jumping into you or you blow by him.
Please tell me this is a typo. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Treble Clef Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Boozer would need to lose a lot of weight and work on his foot-speed to play the SF.... that article seems like a typo..... he has a clear-cut PF body now if it was Kelly playing the 3 spot I would understand cause he has nice footspeed and can keep up with other SF's. |
Or Boozer could take the opposing SFs down low and abuse them. Positions in the NBA have changed, the fans are the last to notice. It is about matchups, and some will favor Boozer at SF and some won't. When they don't, you use a different lineup. |
I haven't watched him too much lately but is he still capable of that? From recent memory, his inside scoring seems non existent and he's more of a jump shooter. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | That has to be a typo no, Boozer playing SF??? Even Randle playing that position full time is a slight stretch, but Boozer there is a joke. No foot speed to stay on the perimeter and all you need is one pump fake and he's either jumping into you or you blow by him.
Please tell me this is a typo. |
It's from the LAT article. Honestly, I would just ignore it. The coaches will decide who starts after training camp, not some LAT reporter in July. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Treble Clef wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | K0BEE 2.0 wrote: | Boozer would need to lose a lot of weight and work on his foot-speed to play the SF.... that article seems like a typo..... he has a clear-cut PF body now if it was Kelly playing the 3 spot I would understand cause he has nice footspeed and can keep up with other SF's. |
Or Boozer could take the opposing SFs down low and abuse them. Positions in the NBA have changed, the fans are the last to notice. It is about matchups, and some will favor Boozer at SF and some won't. When they don't, you use a different lineup. |
I haven't watched him too much lately but is he still capable of that? From recent memory, his inside scoring seems non existent and he's more of a jump shooter. |
From the recent games I've seen he's more of a jump shooter. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Kirby Brian Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:22 pm Post subject: Boozer to be our new starting SF |
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my body is ready
Quote: | The Lakers have Carlos Boozer "penciled in" as their starting small forward, according to beat writer Mike Bresnahan.
It's unsettling to imagine Boozer trying to defend small forwards on a nightly basis. The 32-year-old said that he "absolutely" views himself as a starter, and he's comfortable playing PF or C, so he should carve out a solid role one way or another. His scoring and rebounding make him a tolerable gamble in the late rounds.
Source: L.A. Times Jul 27 - 4:11 PM |
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Rivershow Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Why? Like Seriously, why? If they wanted to go with this horrible experiment wouldn't it make more sense for Randle to be the SF since he might actually have the speed to guard sf's? |
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silkwilkes Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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notice the qualifier "penciled"... it means they will test it in preseason and go from there lol. |
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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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stop with that stupid report.
they reported even before we hired Byron.
It's up to the coach who plays at SF.
Byron isn't that stupid. |
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ibitegirls Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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umm. hasn't this already been talked about in the official boozer thread?
wasn't this published before byron scott was hired? sounds a bit early to pencil someone into a position before even seeing what type of shape their in, or how the chemistry will work out. |
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Sccit Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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I assume he'll play sf on offense while randle guards opposing small forwards... Which could actually work out, we'd control the glass every game. |
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Troublesome626 Star Player
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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Obviously the writer meant Power foward. Nothing to see here. |
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Golden_Emperor_24K Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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Boozer at Center, Randle at PF, boozer gets what he wants...Randle fans get what they want. Hill fits better with the 2nd unit I think. He and Ed Davis can rotate b/w 2nd string center or pf. |
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mettaElbow Sixth Man
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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would love to see boozer guarding the likes of lbj , kd and melo at sf, gonna be a sight |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: Boozer to be our new starting SF |
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KobeMania wrote: | Yay!
Quote: | The Lakers have Carlos Boozer "penciled in" as their starting small forward, according to beat writer Mike Bresnahan.
It's unsettling to imagine Boozer trying to defend small forwards on a nightly basis. The 32-year-old said that he "absolutely" views himself as a starter, and he's comfortable playing PF or C, so he should carve out a solid role one way or another. His scoring and rebounding make him a tolerable gamble in the late rounds.
Source: L.A. Times Jul 27 - 4:11 PM |
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You've been here long enough to know this belonged in the existing Boozer thread -- especially since it was already posted there. |
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Golden_Emperor_24K Star Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:50 pm Post subject: |
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mettaElbow wrote: | would love to see boozer guarding the likes of lbj , kd and melo at sf, gonna be a sight |
Wesley Johnson and x-henry will hold down the SF position. we just need Wesley to knock some open shots and play defense. Not asking too much of him. Hope he puts in the work this summer. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Boozer will start at PF and Hill will start at C
Randle and Davis will back them up but play good minutes (25 mins)
Sacre and Kelly will be the third stringers
Back court probably Kobe starting with Lin and SwaggyP
SG/SF will be blurred at times, likewise with SF/PF... we have the personal to do small ball or half court post up game
B.Scott better have a solid plan. We have to make the playoffs, can't have The LAKERS missing back to back year |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | Boozer will start at PF and Hill will start at C
Randle and Davis will back them up but play good minutes (25 mins)
Sacre and Kelly will be the third stringers
Back court probably Kobe starting with Lin and SwaggyP
SG/SF will be blurred at times, likewise with SF/PF... we have the personal to do small ball or half court post up game
B.Scott better have a solid plan. We have to make the playoffs, can't have The LAKERS missing back to back year |
Overall this is about right. If you consider Kobe's minutes get dialed back to 30-32, that doesn't leave a lot for Young at SG so he will get around 8-10 SF minutes ideally.
The key to Scott's success could be how he deals with those blurred lines you speak of. This team needs a wing defender to help Kobe, and Wes is really the best option so he may wrestle the bulk of the minutes from Henry at SF. Scott is going to be put in situations where Henry starts to get hot or the opposing team puts a slow SF out there and he's tempted to play Kelly, or Davis is having a great game and he may chose to keep Hill on the bench. I feel good about having a seasoned coach out there. With the Nets and Hornets he did have some quantity as opposed to quality so he knows what he's getting into. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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I think Coach Scott knows that Boozer will play a big role in our success (or lack of) this season for obvious reasons.
Boozer had a good season last year offensively but his defense is not up to par.
None-the-less if he does as good or better than last year he will have done his part.
Plus we got him & Lin at bargain-basement prices.
Win-Lin situation. |
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