Lakers are going with what seems like an All Offensive Team..WHY?

postandpivot · Retired Number Joined: 16 Sep 2003 Posts: 36822

not sure which mod thought it was cute to change my title. but ok. lol.

Lakers are going with what seems like an All Offensive Team..WHY?

someone said "defensive wins championships"

oh really

So..explain to us how the spurs beat the heat....
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Offense

GREAT, not pretty good, but GREAT passing and Great shooting from positions 1-4,which spread the floor and made the good passes seem like GREAT passes because it destroyed the heat's defensive abilities.

The league has changed. you cant play lock down defense on perimeter players. but you can pack the paint and dare guys to shoot. you can wall off people to stop them from just rushing the rack. If you do that well enough without fouling. and you have very good passing with great spacing due to stretch 4's, and other shooters, and at least 2 penetrate score/dish guys. you have a chance at beating every team in the nba.

you make shots, the less you have to worry about getting back in transition.

IF you cant beat em... join em. The landscape of the nba isnt filled with a lot of defenders like it use to be. its a ton of offensive guys that play little to no defense.

lets take a look at some star players.

LBJ-Defender
parker-average defender
Blake griffin-turnstile
CP3-slight above average defender
irving-turnstile
john wall-average defender
westbrook -slightly above average defender
curry-below average defender
Melo-below average defender
Lemarcus-below average defender
Love-below average defender
Dwight-above average defender(use to be great)
harden-below average defender
Durant-average defender

those are the nba's stars.
thats pretty bad if you think about it. nba isnt what it use to be. thats for sure.

Do you need at least a shot blocker? NOPE
the spurs were 13th in shot blocking. the heat were 12.
two middle of the pack teams in that category.

spurs and heat are top 6 in steals. the heat i can see. but the spurs were #3. how did that happen? aside from Klenard. Well, its probably because the spurs were so savvy on the offensive end. it made other teams Press and try to force things to score more to keep up with the spurs efficient scoring. this causes more TO's.
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epak · Retired Number Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 34147

Team defense: individual responsibility, communication, rotation, shot contest is more important than a single great defensive player. Our next coach needs to preach that.

KendrickLamar · Starting Rotation Joined: 07 Apr 2014 Posts: 515

Saying Harden is a below average defender is being extremely generous

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abysmal · Starting Rotation Joined: 23 Dec 2011 Posts: 448

the spurs are one of the best defensive teams in the league

revgen · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jul 2006 Posts: 10220

Championships are won because of 3 factors. Defense. Matchups. Adjustments.

The Spurs won mostly because of matchups and adjustments. They had the depth to matchup against almost anybody, and with an elite coach like Popovic, they were always prepared to adjust to whatever the opposing team threw at them.

I've never been that impressed with Byron's ability to make the necessary adjustments in the playoffs. IIRC, one of the worst defeats in NBA playoff history came under his watch when he was coaching the Hornets. His only real success came with Eddie Jordan and Lawrence Frank as his assistant coaches in New Jersey.

Our depth isn't even close to the Spurs, and won't be for a long time. So that's out of the question unless Mitch has another Magic Wand moment we don't know about.

I don't mind us going all-offense if what we're doing is rebuilding. But according to Ramona Shelburne's tweet, we're trying to gather elite FA's in 2015 and 2016, which would be the opposite of rebuilding. If those FA's are going to come over, I doubt they want to go to a rebuilding situation.
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RMurphy_22 · Star Player Joined: 27 May 2005 Posts: 4193

Unless the new coach is a Thibadeau mastermind on defense this team is going to get toasted again. We don't have any defensive stoppers and only one average shot blocker. While team D is the key, the new coach better focus on more than anything.
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gumby · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:56 pm Post subject:

Because that all defensive team we had last year was lights out!!!

Unless this team has a miracle gel on D, will still have to score more than the other team. (Shocker right?)

Bye.
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JamaalWilkes · Star Player Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1175

Ed Davis (6-10), Carlos Boozer (6-9), Jordan Hill (6-10), Ryan Kelly (6-11), Julius Randal (6-9).

Please tell me we are trading a PF or two for another position player.

If they sign Elton Brand or Andray Blatche next, I give up.

Is there any chance we sign or sign and trade for a Greg Monroe or Eric Bledsoe?

NYClakerguy · Starting Rotation Joined: 05 Jul 2014 Posts: 522

it's because we lost Gasol, who is basically Ed Davis, Carlos Boozer and Jordan Hill combined.

oliverginob · Star Player Joined: 10 Aug 2012 Posts: 1465

we get it, they are PFs but obviously the Lakers are going to use them as Centers

Omar Little · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:07 pm Post subject:

No, but we need at least another five random complaint threads...

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Fallout · Star Player Joined: 03 Jun 2002 Posts: 7626

This team won't contend. So next best thing is build an entertaining team. Popular chinese player. Check. And do on. Makes sense.
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KobeRe-Loaded · Franchise Player Joined: 09 Dec 2003 Posts: 14944

I think Sacre can play PF

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MyKRo · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:08 pm Post subject:

The front office is looking clueless right now..

Yeah lets draft a young stud PF, and sign 4 PF's to take minutes away from him. Ugh.

Romano338 · Star Player Joined: 12 Nov 2013 Posts: 1150

These Lakers are a joke
I'm already sick of this season

Jackobe · Star Player Joined: 17 May 2011 Posts: 4466

I think it's never defense win championship or offense win championship...

it's always a combination of both.

Pacers was a great defensive team last year, but why do they fail to beat the Heat again? Cuz their offense was god awful.

Spurs won because they could do both scoring and defend.

If you have efficient offense like the Spurs did, it's going to help you on defense. Since it allows to get back to defend in half court. Also when players are scoring, they tend to play more energy on the defensive end. Then having good half court defense could lead to more possessions on the offense or fast break.

So ya, having a great efficient offensive team will or should help on the defensive end. Lakers definitely need more balance scoring than rely on Kobe, at least we want to save Kobe for the playoff.

lakerjoshua · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:10 pm Post subject:

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Romano338 · Star Player Joined: 12 Nov 2013 Posts: 1150

Anyway, this season is (bleep)
lakers aren't what they used to be. They were a winning team, always aiming the win.
They don't worth more than the Cavs or the Sixers now.

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lakerjoshua · Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject:

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