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kray28_ wrote: | pio2u wrote: | As training camp approaches I am excited about the prospects of Coach Scott "righting the ship" and pointing us back in the right direction.
I like the fact that he is putting a great deal of emphasis on defensive energy and effort
Coach Scott is firm & somewhat old-school. This is a good thing when it comes to younger players who don't really understand the NBA game and the effort that it takes to survive.
He preaches discipline ala Kobe Bryant. He also gets players to identify their own strengths & weaknesses and then helps them to improve their game.
He teaches his guys how to maximize their talents and gives them the freedom to do so.
The players that buy in to his toughness will thrive. Those that don't won't get much playing time. |
Well put. I feel exactly the same way....totally behind Byron as our coach, and I haven't felt that way about a Laker coach since Phil. |
I have been behind every Laker coach since Riley took over. Here is hoping Byron can have similar success. Hopefully he has learned from his mistakes in New Jersey and NO and has grown. I throw his stint in Cleveland out, any coach would have failed with that team. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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I've always liked Igor Kokoskov... |
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22 wrote: | I've always liked Igor Kokoskov... |
Or like us friends like to refer to him as... Iggy Koko |
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Alpha wrote: | 22 wrote: | I've always liked Igor Kokoskov... |
Or like us friends like to refer to him as... Iggy Koko |
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So his name is Igor, Son of Coconut _________________ Kobe |
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Jim99187 wrote: | Lakerfan 4 Life wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | LakerRush wrote: | Bring in Coop and let's roll! |
Can u detail on why should we bring in coop?
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A former Defensive Player of the Year and 8 time All-Defensive team winner who can assemble a defensive system. |
oh I thought he had some great defensive systems in the wbna where he is coaching now |
Is the wbna the basketball league for dyslexic women? _________________ I would rather have questions I cannot answer than answers I cannot question - Richard Feynman |
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Byron Scott Says Lakers Will Be ‘More Physical, Tougher Team’
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(bleep). Let Kobe play and either dominate or go out like a soldier. He ain't Tim Duncan. Unless Kobe is dominant, the team is going nowhere anyway for the next two seasons, so give the people what they want. In any case, Kobe ain't gon listen to Scott. What's Scott going to do? Fine him? Bench him?
Dude is opening his mouth way too early. Kobe don't care and has too much cache with his fan base for Scott or even the organization to take him on. He'll do what he wants to just like he did in 2012-2013. Ain't nobody going to stop him from trying to prove the doubters wrong.
People been watching Kobe for 18 years and they think he's going to be ok with being a part time player? {deleted by alpha} _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
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Scott is perfect for Kobe in his current evolution. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
(bleep). Let Kobe play and either dominate or go out like a soldier. He ain't Tim Duncan. Unless Kobe is dominant, the team is going nowhere anyway for the next two seasons, so give the people what they want. In any case, Kobe ain't gon listen to Scott. What's Scott going to do? Fine him? Bench him?
Dude is opening his mouth way too early. Kobe don't care and has too much cache with his fan base for Scott or even the organization to take him on. He'll do what he wants to just like he did in 2012-2013. Ain't nobody going to stop him from trying to prove the doubters wrong.
People been watching Kobe for 18 years and they think he's going to be ok with being a part time player? {deleted by alpha} |
I think you are way off in your opinion. Kobe has a great b-ball mind along with his competitiveness. I expect getting injured and rehabbing for the past year and a half has opened his mind to his own mortality and changing his game. He has made several comments about it.
Also think Kobe respects Scott. They agree on a plan for Kobe and the Lakers to have the best chance to succeed over the entire season. That means cutting back on mpg and playing a different role when he is on the floor. Nobody is saying Kobe will be a part time player though.
Lakers signed Young to be a solid SG so Kobe can play less mpg and maybe even take off a night every so often. Hopefully the Lakers will not lose leads or fall behind the moment Kobe goes to the bench as we have seen in past seasons.
Less mpg is a good thing for Kobe. More quality then quantity IMO.
Would be thrilled to see Kobe at about 28-30mpg for 70 games (and a chance at the playoffs). 18pts/7assts and some energetic defense. Anything else is gravy.
Consider that is about the mpg Duncan has had the past couple of seasons. Ginobli is at about 23mpg. Both have a huge impact and finish games. Kobe can play that role too. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
(bleep). Let Kobe play and either dominate or go out like a soldier. He ain't Tim Duncan. Unless Kobe is dominant, the team is going nowhere anyway for the next two seasons, so give the people what they want. In any case, Kobe ain't gon listen to Scott. What's Scott going to do? Fine him? Bench him?
Dude is opening his mouth way too early. Kobe don't care and has too much cache with his fan base for Scott or even the organization to take him on. He'll do what he wants to just like he did in 2012-2013. Ain't nobody going to stop him from trying to prove the doubters wrong.
People been watching Kobe for 18 years and they think he's going to be ok with being a part time player? {deleted by alpha} |
Kobe won't be a part time player, no more than he has ever been. Scott will just play for the long run, not short term benefit. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
(bleep). Let Kobe play and either dominate or go out like a soldier. He ain't Tim Duncan. Unless Kobe is dominant, the team is going nowhere anyway for the next two seasons, so give the people what they want. In any case, Kobe ain't gon listen to Scott. What's Scott going to do? Fine him? Bench him?
Dude is opening his mouth way too early. Kobe don't care and has too much cache with his fan base for Scott or even the organization to take him on. He'll do what he wants to just like he did in 2012-2013. Ain't nobody going to stop him from trying to prove the doubters wrong.
People been watching Kobe for 18 years and they think he's going to be ok with being a part time player? {deleted by alpha} |
Kobe won't be a part time player, no more than he has ever been. Scott will just play for the long run, not short term benefit. |
Yep; no one is going to stop Kobe from being Kobe. I think the coach just wants to get a handle on things like playing time in order to extend Kobe's "shelf life"; but these two guys know each other well.
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pio2u wrote: | Byron Scott Says Lakers Will Be ‘More Physical, Tougher Team’
Quote: | Coach Scott: "Well, you know the one thing I won’t do is put any expectations on our guys as far as wins and losses.
But what I can tell our fans is that this team will play hard every single night, it will be a different brand of basketball than they’ve seen the last four or five years, this team will compete every single night, especially on the defensive end, and it will be a much more physical, tougher team than we’ve had here in recent years.
But on the offensive team, this team will be a team that still looks to get up and down the floor when we can, and if we don’t, we’re going to be a pretty good half-court team as well." |
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Quote: | Bill Oram @bill_oram · 56m
Small child asks Byron about Kobe's minute restriction. Lakers Nation trains 'em young. (Byron says it's less than 40, but no more detail) |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | TAKE TWO: with Lakers head coach Byron Scott
Quote: | A Martinez interviews Lakers' head coach Byron Scott, in his office, ahead of the 2014-2015 season. |
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Great interview and what I like about Scott is that he's a straight forward guy, no messing around. If players don't perform he's going to get on their case, they are going to have to look in the mirror and be responsible by being professionals. Like in the old days those that don't play defense and don't give 110% will ride the pine. This generation doesn't understand this kind of thinking and want instant gratification so it's important that the Lakers FO back Scott up when he makes tough choices. Unlike teams like Cleveland who's FO has no idea on how to build a team and give the proper support. Laker fans will have to have some patience but I think we will see an immediate change in the culture and identity of this team and that means a lot. Knowing that the coach will give out his heart for the name in the front of the Jersey means a lot. Those other guys they didn't care in fact I'm sure MDA never imagined he'd coach the Lakers a team that he despised for so many years. Lakers tried to create the identity of a different team (ie. Suns) which never succeeded instead of looking at what they've always been. Now I think they're on the right track. |
Listening to Scott, I have a high level of confidence he will actually follow through with his statements. He will emphasize defense. He will hold the players accountable. I think the Lakers will benefit and be better because of it.
That was the most frustrating part of MDA. He didn't follow through with his comments. When he was first hired there was the impression that a defensive asst coach was coming with him (McMillan). Last year they all said the right things about Rambis being asked to emphasize defense. Never saw any of it in games.
With Scott I think we will. |
Byron Scott hasn't done anything at this point but talk and say all the things he's supposed to say.
Don't take this the wrong way - but I find it ridiculous that a lot of people bashed Mike D'Antoni and make statements like that.. but then turn around and praise Byron Scott (who essentially said the same things) despite the fact that you haven't seen ANYTHING from him or how his team will play under him this season.
I mean, he didn't exactly bring or at least start an upward trend for Cleveland during his time there. You could argue that he and Mike D'Antoni pretty much had the same level of talent (MDA due to injuries no less) on their teams and did equally bad.
I'm not hating on Byron Scott. I hope he does well for the team that we all love..
But, surely, I can't be the only one who sees the blatant bias against Mike D'Antoni lol. |
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ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | TAKE TWO: with Lakers head coach Byron Scott
Quote: | A Martinez interviews Lakers' head coach Byron Scott, in his office, ahead of the 2014-2015 season. |
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Great interview and what I like about Scott is that he's a straight forward guy, no messing around. If players don't perform he's going to get on their case, they are going to have to look in the mirror and be responsible by being professionals. Like in the old days those that don't play defense and don't give 110% will ride the pine. This generation doesn't understand this kind of thinking and want instant gratification so it's important that the Lakers FO back Scott up when he makes tough choices. Unlike teams like Cleveland who's FO has no idea on how to build a team and give the proper support. Laker fans will have to have some patience but I think we will see an immediate change in the culture and identity of this team and that means a lot. Knowing that the coach will give out his heart for the name in the front of the Jersey means a lot. Those other guys they didn't care in fact I'm sure MDA never imagined he'd coach the Lakers a team that he despised for so many years. Lakers tried to create the identity of a different team (ie. Suns) which never succeeded instead of looking at what they've always been. Now I think they're on the right track. |
Listening to Scott, I have a high level of confidence he will actually follow through with his statements. He will emphasize defense. He will hold the players accountable. I think the Lakers will benefit and be better because of it.
That was the most frustrating part of MDA. He didn't follow through with his comments. When he was first hired there was the impression that a defensive asst coach was coming with him (McMillan). Last year they all said the right things about Rambis being asked to emphasize defense. Never saw any of it in games.
With Scott I think we will. |
Byron Scott hasn't done anything at this point but talk and say all the things he's supposed to say.
Don't take this the wrong way - but I find it ridiculous that a lot of people bashed Mike D'Antoni and make statements like that.. but then turn around and praise Byron Scott (who essentially said the same things) despite the fact that you haven't seen ANYTHING from him or how his team will play under him this season.
I mean, he didn't exactly bring or at least start an upward trend for Cleveland during his time there. You could argue that he and Mike D'Antoni pretty much had the same level of talent (MDA due to injuries no less) on their teams and did equally bad.
I'm not hating on Byron Scott. I hope he does well for the team that we all love..
But, surely, I can't be the only one who sees the blatant bias against Mike D'Antoni lol. |
I agree with you
(a) Coach Scott has said the right things but he has not proved anything.
(b) Though I did not bash D'Antoni (much) I was blatantly opposed to him |
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pio2u wrote: | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | TAKE TWO: with Lakers head coach Byron Scott
Quote: | A Martinez interviews Lakers' head coach Byron Scott, in his office, ahead of the 2014-2015 season. |
SCOTT |
Great interview and what I like about Scott is that he's a straight forward guy, no messing around. If players don't perform he's going to get on their case, they are going to have to look in the mirror and be responsible by being professionals. Like in the old days those that don't play defense and don't give 110% will ride the pine. This generation doesn't understand this kind of thinking and want instant gratification so it's important that the Lakers FO back Scott up when he makes tough choices. Unlike teams like Cleveland who's FO has no idea on how to build a team and give the proper support. Laker fans will have to have some patience but I think we will see an immediate change in the culture and identity of this team and that means a lot. Knowing that the coach will give out his heart for the name in the front of the Jersey means a lot. Those other guys they didn't care in fact I'm sure MDA never imagined he'd coach the Lakers a team that he despised for so many years. Lakers tried to create the identity of a different team (ie. Suns) which never succeeded instead of looking at what they've always been. Now I think they're on the right track. |
Listening to Scott, I have a high level of confidence he will actually follow through with his statements. He will emphasize defense. He will hold the players accountable. I think the Lakers will benefit and be better because of it.
That was the most frustrating part of MDA. He didn't follow through with his comments. When he was first hired there was the impression that a defensive asst coach was coming with him (McMillan). Last year they all said the right things about Rambis being asked to emphasize defense. Never saw any of it in games.
With Scott I think we will. |
Byron Scott hasn't done anything at this point but talk and say all the things he's supposed to say.
Don't take this the wrong way - but I find it ridiculous that a lot of people bashed Mike D'Antoni and make statements like that.. but then turn around and praise Byron Scott (who essentially said the same things) despite the fact that you haven't seen ANYTHING from him or how his team will play under him this season.
I mean, he didn't exactly bring or at least start an upward trend for Cleveland during his time there. You could argue that he and Mike D'Antoni pretty much had the same level of talent (MDA due to injuries no less) on their teams and did equally bad.
I'm not hating on Byron Scott. I hope he does well for the team that we all love..
But, surely, I can't be the only one who sees the blatant bias against Mike D'Antoni lol. |
I agree with you
(a) Coach Scott has said the right things but he has not proved anything.
(b) Though I did not bash D'Antoni (much) I was blatantly opposed to him |
Lol. It's unfortunate things didn't work out with Mike D'Antoni. I think he was a good coach. Loved watching his out-of-bounds plays like the Steve Blake dagger to Houston or the Wesley Johnson tip-in against Portland. Remember the "trickery" he did against New Orleans where New Orleans basically defended the wrong side of the "stack formation" lol.
I know there's a lot more to coaching than just out-of-bounds plays but I think with the hand he was given (absolutely decimated by injuries) he did okay. I would hope nobody this year gets injured.. but I'd be interested to see the response from people here should Byron's first season replicate what was basically Mike D'Antoni's entire tenure here lol. |
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ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | TAKE TWO: with Lakers head coach Byron Scott
Quote: | A Martinez interviews Lakers' head coach Byron Scott, in his office, ahead of the 2014-2015 season. |
SCOTT |
Great interview and what I like about Scott is that he's a straight forward guy, no messing around. If players don't perform he's going to get on their case, they are going to have to look in the mirror and be responsible by being professionals. Like in the old days those that don't play defense and don't give 110% will ride the pine. This generation doesn't understand this kind of thinking and want instant gratification so it's important that the Lakers FO back Scott up when he makes tough choices. Unlike teams like Cleveland who's FO has no idea on how to build a team and give the proper support. Laker fans will have to have some patience but I think we will see an immediate change in the culture and identity of this team and that means a lot. Knowing that the coach will give out his heart for the name in the front of the Jersey means a lot. Those other guys they didn't care in fact I'm sure MDA never imagined he'd coach the Lakers a team that he despised for so many years. Lakers tried to create the identity of a different team (ie. Suns) which never succeeded instead of looking at what they've always been. Now I think they're on the right track. |
Listening to Scott, I have a high level of confidence he will actually follow through with his statements. He will emphasize defense. He will hold the players accountable. I think the Lakers will benefit and be better because of it.
That was the most frustrating part of MDA. He didn't follow through with his comments. When he was first hired there was the impression that a defensive asst coach was coming with him (McMillan). Last year they all said the right things about Rambis being asked to emphasize defense. Never saw any of it in games.
With Scott I think we will. |
Byron Scott hasn't done anything at this point but talk and say all the things he's supposed to say.
Don't take this the wrong way - but I find it ridiculous that a lot of people bashed Mike D'Antoni and make statements like that.. but then turn around and praise Byron Scott (who essentially said the same things) despite the fact that you haven't seen ANYTHING from him or how his team will play under him this season.
I mean, he didn't exactly bring or at least start an upward trend for Cleveland during his time there. You could argue that he and Mike D'Antoni pretty much had the same level of talent (MDA due to injuries no less) on their teams and did equally bad.
I'm not hating on Byron Scott. I hope he does well for the team that we all love..
But, surely, I can't be the only one who sees the blatant bias against Mike D'Antoni lol. |
I agree with you
(a) Coach Scott has said the right things but he has not proved anything.
(b) Though I did not bash D'Antoni (much) I was blatantly opposed to him |
Lol. It's unfortunate things didn't work out with Mike D'Antoni. I think he was a good coach. Loved watching his out-of-bounds plays like the Steve Blake dagger to Houston or the Wesley Johnson tip-in against Portland. Remember the "trickery" he did against New Orleans where New Orleans basically defended the wrong side of the "stack formation" lol.
I know there's a lot more to coaching than just out-of-bounds plays but I think with the hand he was given (absolutely decimated by injuries) he did okay. I would hope nobody this year gets injured.. but I'd be interested to see the response from people here should Byron's first season replicate what was basically Mike D'Antoni's entire tenure here lol. |
MDA is a good coach; but this situation and team was not a good fit for what he was trying to accomplish within his system. |
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ch3cky0selff00 wrote: | Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | LoyalLakerfan44 wrote: | pio2u wrote: | TAKE TWO: with Lakers head coach Byron Scott
Quote: | A Martinez interviews Lakers' head coach Byron Scott, in his office, ahead of the 2014-2015 season. |
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Great interview and what I like about Scott is that he's a straight forward guy, no messing around. If players don't perform he's going to get on their case, they are going to have to look in the mirror and be responsible by being professionals. Like in the old days those that don't play defense and don't give 110% will ride the pine. This generation doesn't understand this kind of thinking and want instant gratification so it's important that the Lakers FO back Scott up when he makes tough choices. Unlike teams like Cleveland who's FO has no idea on how to build a team and give the proper support. Laker fans will have to have some patience but I think we will see an immediate change in the culture and identity of this team and that means a lot. Knowing that the coach will give out his heart for the name in the front of the Jersey means a lot. Those other guys they didn't care in fact I'm sure MDA never imagined he'd coach the Lakers a team that he despised for so many years. Lakers tried to create the identity of a different team (ie. Suns) which never succeeded instead of looking at what they've always been. Now I think they're on the right track. |
Listening to Scott, I have a high level of confidence he will actually follow through with his statements. He will emphasize defense. He will hold the players accountable. I think the Lakers will benefit and be better because of it.
That was the most frustrating part of MDA. He didn't follow through with his comments. When he was first hired there was the impression that a defensive asst coach was coming with him (McMillan). Last year they all said the right things about Rambis being asked to emphasize defense. Never saw any of it in games.
With Scott I think we will. |
Byron Scott hasn't done anything at this point but talk and say all the things he's supposed to say.
Don't take this the wrong way - but I find it ridiculous that a lot of people bashed Mike D'Antoni and make statements like that.. but then turn around and praise Byron Scott (who essentially said the same things) despite the fact that you haven't seen ANYTHING from him or how his team will play under him this season.
I mean, he didn't exactly bring or at least start an upward trend for Cleveland during his time there. You could argue that he and Mike D'Antoni pretty much had the same level of talent (MDA due to injuries no less) on their teams and did equally bad.
I'm not hating on Byron Scott. I hope he does well for the team that we all love..
But, surely, I can't be the only one who sees the blatant bias against Mike D'Antoni lol. |
Fair enough opinion. You are correct. Scott has done nothing but hold a press conference. Yet I feel he is setting a different tone or attitude with the Lakers. I think he has an interesting advantage over most new head coaches in that he was covering the Lakers last year.
He watched and critiqued every minute. He interviewed and talked to every player and coach to see their frustrations and mental make-up over the entire fiasco of a season. He saw the practices and team chemistry. He has a unique viewpoint of their strengths and weaknesses. Most importantly he has the confidence of the star player in Kobe.
I also think Scott has more to offer then his Cleveland days. I am giving him a pass due to the roster and situation. Same as you are giving D'Antoni a pass for his Laker tenure. If you look at Scott's NJ and NO resume, he did improve both teams. In defensive ranking, player development and record.
I initially liked the D'Antoni hire. Maybe not how it was done but he was a solid hire. No denying he had roster issues and injuries over his two years. The intense (and unrealistic) scrutiny he was under by fans and media from the first day was ridiculous. But I also felt he never adapted his system to the roster or acknowledged the defensive side of the ball (other then lip service) . Also think he lost the confidence of his players. Multiple 30- 40 point losses did nothing to inspire.
You are correct. Scott has to prove he should be HC. He has to prove he can make the necessary changes needed for the Lakers to become competitive again. I just think he is the right man for the job at this point. Maybe I am just a blind Laker homer but I think he will lead the Lakers to a surprisingly solid year and set the foundation for more to come. IMO Scott gets it. |
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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
(bleep). Let Kobe play and either dominate or go out like a soldier. He ain't Tim Duncan. Unless Kobe is dominant, the team is going nowhere anyway for the next two seasons, so give the people what they want. In any case, Kobe ain't gon listen to Scott. What's Scott going to do? Fine him? Bench him?
Dude is opening his mouth way too early. Kobe don't care and has too much cache with his fan base for Scott or even the organization to take him on. He'll do what he wants to just like he did in 2012-2013. Ain't nobody going to stop him from trying to prove the doubters wrong.
People been watching Kobe for 18 years and they think he's going to be ok with being a part time player? {deleted by alpha} |
I think you are way off in your opinion. Kobe has a great b-ball mind along with his competitiveness. I expect getting injured and rehabbing for the past year and a half has opened his mind to his own mortality and changing his game. He has made several comments about it.
Also think Kobe respects Scott. They agree on a plan for Kobe and the Lakers to have the best chance to succeed over the entire season. That means cutting back on mpg and playing a different role when he is on the floor. Nobody is saying Kobe will be a part time player though.
Lakers signed Young to be a solid SG so Kobe can play less mpg and maybe even take off a night every so often. Hopefully the Lakers will not lose leads or fall behind the moment Kobe goes to the bench as we have seen in past seasons.
Less mpg is a good thing for Kobe. More quality then quantity IMO.
Would be thrilled to see Kobe at about 28-30mpg for 70 games (and a chance at the playoffs). 18pts/7assts and some energetic defense. Anything else is gravy.
Consider that is about the mpg Duncan has had the past couple of seasons. Ginobli is at about 23mpg. Both have a huge impact and finish games. Kobe can play that role too. |
So you pacify Kobe into finishing his last two years putting up roleplayer numbers on a 12th seed non-playoff team. And that accomplishes what? |
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pio2u wrote: | Byron Scott Says Lakers Will Be ‘More Physical, Tougher Team’
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That's one of the things that concern me with Byron coaching the team... while i like the sound of going old school and running the team hard to prep them to be a physical team... this team from top to bottom has experienced soooo many injuries over the last two seasons... with less demanding coaches.
I'm not saying have a soft team but just being real about balancing agressiveness and health. |
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Alpha wrote: | pio2u wrote: | Byron Scott Says Lakers Will Be ‘More Physical, Tougher Team’
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That's one of the things that concern me with Byron coaching the team... while i like the sound of going old school and running the team hard to prep them to be a physical team... this team from top to bottom has experienced soooo many injuries over the last two seasons... with less demanding coaches.
I'm not saying have a soft team but just being real about balancing agressiveness and health. |
Yeah. Honestly, it's Sept. so he can say stuff like this. But come regular season, guys like Nash and Kobe may not practice much to preserve their bodies. I think we will need another offseason or two to get the right kind of players for Scott if he's preaching that philosophy. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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