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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:32 am    Post subject: Stat and rotation predictions now that Coach players system etc.. Is in place

Lin 16ppg 5ast 3rebs 1.6 stls 38% 3pt 32mpg
Kobe 22ppg 5rebs 5ast 49%fg 1.4spg 30mpg
Wesley 9ppg 40%3pt 1stl 1blk 23mpg
Boozer 16ppg 50%fg 8rebs 3ast 28ppg
Davis 8ppg 8rebs 1.7blks 26mpg

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Nash ever other game 5pts 4 ast 10mpg
Xavier 10ppg 2ast 3rebs 36%3pt 18mpg
Young 15ppg 2apg 25mpg
Randall 8ppg 6rebs 3ast 1blk
Hill 7ppg 6rebs 1bpg 22mpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:42 am    Post subject:

Kobe is not settling for 30mpg

Lin 14.5ppg, 5.8apg, 3.2rpg, 1.5spg, 44%FG, 37% 3PT 32 mpg
Kobe 24ppg, 5.1 apg, 4.5 rpg, 43% FG, 36%3PT 35 mpg
Henry 9 ppg, 4 rpg, 35% 3PT 20 mpg
Boozer 14 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 51% FG 27 mpg
Hill 9 ppg, 9 rpg 29 mpg

Randall 11 ppg, 7 rpg
Young 14 ppg 38% 3PT 29 mog
Davis 6 ppg 8 rpg 18 mpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:54 am    Post subject:

good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:08 am    Post subject:

Lin, 17ppg, 5apg, 4rpg, 35 min
Kobe, 23ppg, 4apg, 5rpg, 35 min
Wesley, 9ppg, 1apg, 4rpg, 1.5 bpg, 24 min
Boozer, 15ppg, 8rpg, 2apg, 32 min
Hill, 10ppg, 10rpg, 1 bpg, 28 min

Young 14ppg
Randall, 10ppg, 5rpg
Davis, 8ppg, 7rpg, 1.5bpg
Henry, 10ppg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:29 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:32 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
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good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 10:40 am    Post subject:

Kobe only playing 30 minutes? I don't think so.

I see Kobe playing 35 minutes a game
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:00 am    Post subject:

Has Scott said what system he wants to use?
Do we know who his assistants will be?
And even then, don't we need to see how the players perform in training camp?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:05 am    Post subject:

There is no way Randle will average less than 10ppg especially if he gets around 25 mins a game. He is a scoring maching when he gets in a grove and not only that but he is so fast and big he will get fouled ALOT. I think Randle was 2nd in fouls in all of the NCAA.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:21 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
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greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:25 am    Post subject:

Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject:

Lol @ Ryan Kelly being apart of any process. Championship or rebuilding.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:40 am    Post subject:

GasolBynumKobe wrote:
Lol @ Ryan Kelly being apart of any process. Championship or rebuilding.


I guess I was being too optimistic in thinking he could be anything... kind of like last season when I thought Meeks was better than Shannon Brown.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:44 am    Post subject:

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Lol @ Ryan Kelly being apart of any process. Championship or rebuilding.


I guess I was being too optimistic in thinking he could be anything... kind of like last season when I thought Meeks was better than Shannon Brown.


A lot of people thought Meeks was better than Shannon Brown. Shooters are always more valuable than players that can't do 1 thing well. Kelly is awful. Why bother rebuilding Kelly when you have Ed Davis who is still young and has more potential? Don't say Kelly is a 3.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 11:55 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


I think you could have expressed that concern a little more clearly and eloquently.

Maybe you could have written "What about Ryan Kelly?" instead of "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:07 pm    Post subject:

GasolBynumKobe wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
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Lol @ Ryan Kelly being apart of any process. Championship or rebuilding.


I guess I was being too optimistic in thinking he could be anything... kind of like last season when I thought Meeks was better than Shannon Brown.


A lot of people thought Meeks was better than Shannon Brown. Shooters are always more valuable than players that can't do 1 thing well. Kelly is awful. Why bother rebuilding Kelly when you have Ed Davis who is still young and has more potential? Don't say Kelly is a 3.


He's the tallest/longest player currently on the team. So no, I would never say that.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:08 pm    Post subject:

JIFISH wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


I think you could have expressed that concern a little more clearly and eloquently.

Maybe you could have written "What about Ryan Kelly?" instead of "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject:

KobeJaws wrote:
JIFISH wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


I think you could have expressed that concern a little more clearly and eloquently.

Maybe you could have written "What about Ryan Kelly?" instead of "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."


Sorry, I'll try to be more bland. The last thing I want to do is offend Ed Davis fans.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 12:20 pm    Post subject:

GasolBynumKobe wrote:
Lol @ Ryan Kelly being apart of any process. Championship or rebuilding.
Don't take him serious he's never made a post without complaining. It what he does.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 7:52 pm    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
KobeJaws wrote:
JIFISH wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


I think you could have expressed that concern a little more clearly and eloquently.

Maybe you could have written "What about Ryan Kelly?" instead of "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."


Sorry, I'll try to be more bland. The last thing I want to do is offend Ed Davis fans.

No need to bland, just more straightforward and less obscure.
I. for one, had no idea that "good to know Kelly is getting screwed" was meant to be commentary on Ed Davis, or that Ed Davis fans might be offended by the idead of Kelly getting screwed.
Heck, I didn't even know Ed Davis had a fan base on Lakersground.
I would have thought Ryan Kelly fans would be more likely to take offense at someone saying "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."
But honestly, I don't think what anyone here is guessing who our starters and our 2nd unit will be means much.
Those things will be determined by the coaching staff during training camp and based on how players perform in the exhibition games.
Just like always.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject:

Nash 16 / Lin 32 / Clarkson 0
Kobe 32 / Henry 16
Johnson 19 / Young 25 / Randle 4
Boozer 20 / Randle 16 / Kelly 12
Hill 20 / Davis 22 / Boozer 6 / Sacre 0
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject:

BTW, y r u guys spelling Julius' name as Randall?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject:

JIFISH wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
KobeJaws wrote:
JIFISH wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Car54 wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
good to know Kelly is getting screwed.. the "rebuilding effort" has already hit a snag.


Have you ever said anything positive. I bet you complain about the sun shining. Your life must suck. Lol


b-but why do you hate Ryan Kelly? I noticed a huge omission in your projections and i commented on it. How negative of me.


Lol you can't be serious


I don't follow. Am I not suppose to care about Ryan Kelly? He was one of the few bright spots last season.


I think you could have expressed that concern a little more clearly and eloquently.

Maybe you could have written "What about Ryan Kelly?" instead of "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."


Sorry, I'll try to be more bland. The last thing I want to do is offend Ed Davis fans.

No need to bland, just more straightforward and less obscure.
I. for one, had no idea that "good to know Kelly is getting screwed" was meant to be commentary on Ed Davis, or that Ed Davis fans might be offended by the idead of Kelly getting screwed.
Heck, I didn't even know Ed Davis had a fan base on Lakersground.
I would have thought Ryan Kelly fans would be more likely to take offense at someone saying "good to know Kelly is getting screwed."
But honestly, I don't think what anyone here is guessing who our starters and our 2nd unit will be means much.
Those things will be determined by the coaching staff during training camp and based on how players perform in the exhibition games.
Just like always.


Greenfrog missed the PREDICTION part lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:50 pm    Post subject:

Too early for this to be final, lets call it "pre" pre-season predictions.... But I 'll play along...


Lin 14ppg 5ast 32mpg

Kobe 25/26ppg 6rebs 6ast 35mpg

Wes 8ppg 5RPG 22mpg

Boozer 12ppg 8rebs 26Mpg

Hill 12ppg 8rebs 27mpg


Bench

Xavier backs Kobe for 13 minutes, gets some extra time when (if) Young and or Wes go down with injury or foul trouble....

Young ....Plays about 26 minutes a game....15ppg on 43/44% FG's....

Randall ... About 26 minutes per game... 11PPG with 7 boards... I can see Boozer play center for 4/5 minutes per game...I think Randle will really "blossom" in his 2nd year, play 34 minutes per game and bring 18 and 10.....

Davis...... 7ppg 5rebs 1bpg 17mpg

Nash and Clarkson ( also some 2 when needed) along with Kane will fill out the back up point spots. Hopefully Beaubois will come strong in camp (if he makes it there).....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:00 pm    Post subject:

-This will be the hardest season to get a handle on minutes and stats
-A war over Ryan Kelly on the 1st page is about right
-Props to anyone that can actually predict how the stats play out

If you set up a rotation and project minutes, you may find yourself getting creative with Kelly (min vs slow 3's or short 5's). You could project Kelly to get scrap minutes, until Boozer is out for say 3 weeks. All of a sudden Kelly goes from less than 5 minutes to 20+ minutes. I don't even know how to put down stats for the backup PG's, though I did like the OP's "every other game" line lol. I look at it more like:

32 minute "starters": Kobe, Lin & Young. In a perfect world they compromise to 32mpg for Kobe, he heals well and doesn't wear down. Lin deserves the same minutes given the PG situation, but Scott will get creative to keep him from rising above that window. That could include Young and Kobe together for say a 5 minute stretch early on or later if the others aren't ready due to injury or being green. Even if that doesn't happen Young will see SF minutes over Henry to get the best talent on the court.


24-22 mpg Platoon players: Boozer, Hill, Johnson, Randle and Davis. This is the bulk of the roster's minutes. They should all hover around that minute window. It's up to Randle's development how many minutes he wrestles from Boozer. It's up to matchups how many Davis takes from Hill. I think these guys are all pretty close by the end of the year. Boozer may play 28 mpg early on and then maybe Randle starts in his place for a month, that sort of thing. Wes gets the edge over Henry due to them needing his perimeter D.


Wildcards: Henry, Kelly, Nash, Sacre, Clarkson: Kelly and Henry have the talent to at least be on the back end of a rotation in the NBA. PF depth will hurt Kelly. Between Kobe, Young and Johnson there may not be many minutes for Henry. If one of the scorers get hurt though, his minutes go up. Nash is totally a wildcard, I just don't see how to predict a stat line for a guy that could condition well and play 15mpg for 60 games or could walk out there and be forced to call it a season. Clarkson is a 5th guard that may be pressed to play, or maybe Kane, Beaubois or a vet come into play. Sacre could sit an entire game two nights in a row, and then maybe play 12 minutes on a night where the centers are towering over Hill and Davis.
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