I'm sure somebody has mentioned this before, but the real reason to get B-Easy is his friendship with Durant.
At 25 yo it's not inconceivable that Beasley is starting to mature and get serious about playing the right way. The talent has always been there, but the focus was lacking. He showed some progress last year with Miami, and the trend could continue now that he's getting into his mid-20's. Not all 18-23 year old boys are equipped to handle the dedication and commitment it takes to make it in the NBA. If Kobe and B-Scott can get him on track he could not only be a useful player, but could also be a great recruiting tool when KD hits free agency. _________________ “This goes far beyond paychecks”
I'm sure somebody has mentioned this before, but the real reason to get B-Easy is his friendship with Durant.
At 25 yo it's not inconceivable that Beasley is starting to mature and get serious about playing the right way. The talent has always been there, but the focus was lacking. He showed some progress last year with Miami, and the trend could continue now that he's getting into his mid-20's. Not all 18-23 year old boys are equipped to handle the dedication and commitment it takes to make it in the NBA. If Kobe and B-Scott can get him on track he could not only be a useful player, but could also be a great recruiting tool when KD hits free agency.
Unfortunately you'd have to pay Beez more than the minimum the next season and beyond with no guarantees of durant. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I'm sure somebody has mentioned this before, but the real reason to get B-Easy is his friendship with Durant.
At 25 yo it's not inconceivable that Beasley is starting to mature and get serious about playing the right way. The talent has always been there, but the focus was lacking. He showed some progress last year with Miami, and the trend could continue now that he's getting into his mid-20's. Not all 18-23 year old boys are equipped to handle the dedication and commitment it takes to make it in the NBA. If Kobe and B-Scott can get him on track he could not only be a useful player, but could also be a great recruiting tool when KD hits free agency.
Unfortunately you'd have to pay Beez more than the minimum the next season and beyond with no guarantees of durant.
Depends on how he plays. Johnson and Henry were both brought back for the minimum. If he plays well maybe he could get a Nick Young type of deal.
The Lakers held a free agent workout Tuesday in Los Angeles. The workout included forward Michael Beasley; big men Dexter Pittman, Greg Stiemsma, and Daniel Orton; and guards Bobby Brown, Toney Douglas, Ben Hansbrough and Malcolm Lee.
I don't even count Wes Johnson as an actual player so we're really thin at SF. Take a chance on Beasley. Years ago, we got some value out of Kwame Brown, using him as a human bulldozer, maybe we figure out a way to get some value out of Beasley? I know the guy has the physical skills, I don't know if he's as dumb as a box of hammers but maybe if we just simplify what we want from him, maybe tell him, there's THREE things we want from you, this, this and this, we don't care about anything else, maybe? the guy at least fills a slot for us?
We all know Wes Johnson is going to have one big game and then crawl in a hole and disappear for the next 3 weeks. Dude might as well start preparing to play in the Euro league next year... Beasley can take ALL of Wes' minutes away within the first few weeks of the season.
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I don't even count Wes Johnson as an actual player so we're really thin at SF. Take a chance on Beasley. Years ago, we got some value out of Kwame Brown, using him as a human bulldozer, maybe we figure out a way to get some value out of Beasley? I know the guy has the physical skills, I don't know if he's as dumb as a box of hammers but maybe if we just simplify what we want from him, maybe tell him, there's THREE things we want from you, this, this and this, we don't care about anything else, maybe? the guy at least fills a slot for us?
We all know Wes Johnson is going to have one big game and then crawl in a hole and disappear for the next 3 weeks. Dude might as well start preparing to play in the Euro league next year... Beasley can take ALL of Wes' minutes away within the first few weeks of the season.
I feel similarly to you about Wes. I hate 1 way players who start. They don't belong!
But on a team with no defenders, I doubt Scott benches Wes.
For Scott to feel comfortable benching Wes, he would have to implement some sort of magical system that makes kobe, boozer, and Hill exceed our wildest expectations defensively. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
The Lakers held a free agent workout Tuesday in Los Angeles. The workout included forward Michael Beasley; big men Dexter Pittman, Greg Stiemsma, and Daniel Orton; and guards Bobby Brown, Toney Douglas, Ben Hansbrough and Malcolm Lee.
I like Daniel Orton... Wasn't he like the 17th pick or something ? He's never really been givin a chance
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2014-2015 Laker Players:
Swaggy P,Hill + Beasley + Bynum
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I would actually look at our small forward position as another strength if we added Beasley. I think he would easily become the starter with swaggy p coming in off the bench.
I would be 100% confident going into the season with this team. It has depth, and a good mixture of seasoned vets and young talent. This team could def compete.
I wonder why no one else is in a hurry to sign him?
Because the "but he's a 2nd pick and has potential" label is now over. He's a minimum salary player at this point until he can prove otherwise. A player can quickly go from a top pick to barely earning a check in the league just like that. Mind you, I think Beez is still getting a paycheck from the Suns, which basically decided that it was worth $16m for Beez to NOT play for them. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Just wish the Lakers would make a decision and move on. Offer him a minimum non-guaranteed deal, tell him take it or leave it by today, and if he doesn't move on. This is getting pretty ridiculous.
Just wish the Lakers would make a decision and move on. Offer him a minimum non-guaranteed deal, tell him take it or leave it by today, and if he doesn't move on. This is getting pretty ridiculous.
Well, we did "interview" Scott 3-4 times too. I agree though, take him or just say "we're done." But again, it's not like the FO cares about what we think. They'll do their due diligence and guys like Beez aren't a must-have player so they can pass if they choose. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I don't even count Wes Johnson as an actual player so we're really thin at SF. Take a chance on Beasley. Years ago, we got some value out of Kwame Brown, using him as a human bulldozer, maybe we figure out a way to get some value out of Beasley? I know the guy has the physical skills, I don't know if he's as dumb as a box of hammers but maybe if we just simplify what we want from him, maybe tell him, there's THREE things we want from you, this, this and this, we don't care about anything else, maybe? the guy at least fills a slot for us?
We all know Wes Johnson is going to have one big game and then crawl in a hole and disappear for the next 3 weeks. Dude might as well start preparing to play in the Euro league next year... Beasley can take ALL of Wes' minutes away within the first few weeks of the season.
I feel similarly to you about Wes. I hate 1 way players who start. They don't belong!
But on a team with no defenders, I doubt Scott benches Wes.
For Scott to feel comfortable benching Wes, he would have to implement some sort of magical system that makes kobe, boozer, and Hill exceed our wildest expectations defensively.
Interesting opinion. Seems like one way defensive players have a role in the League. Safalosha, T. Allen, Battier, Barnes or even going back to Bowen or Cooper just to name a few. Solid contributors that play tough defense and hit a shot when asked.
I am interested to see if Johnson can develop into that kind of a role this year. Unlike Beasley, I think Johnson might benefit from strong guidance by Scott and a structured team. Not expecting an All-star just improvement and some consistency.
IMO Wes fits the team concept/starter role much better then Beasley. I also think Young off the bench takes that role away from Beasley too. So where does Beasley actually fit? IMO a one dimensional scorer (when he is on) that loses focus on defense and is immature in the lockerroom.
My opinion does not count on this one. The signs are there that he may be signed. Hopefully if that happens this is the year he suddenly "gets it". doubtful but I can hope.
I like the odds that Johnson develops into the all around player we hope he can be much more then Beasley being able to do it. Remember Johnson was a 4th overall pick and has a ton of potential coming out of college too.
I don't even count Wes Johnson as an actual player so we're really thin at SF. Take a chance on Beasley. Years ago, we got some value out of Kwame Brown, using him as a human bulldozer, maybe we figure out a way to get some value out of Beasley? I know the guy has the physical skills, I don't know if he's as dumb as a box of hammers but maybe if we just simplify what we want from him, maybe tell him, there's THREE things we want from you, this, this and this, we don't care about anything else, maybe? the guy at least fills a slot for us?
We all know Wes Johnson is going to have one big game and then crawl in a hole and disappear for the next 3 weeks. Dude might as well start preparing to play in the Euro league next year... Beasley can take ALL of Wes' minutes away within the first few weeks of the season.
I feel similarly to you about Wes. I hate 1 way players who start. They don't belong!
But on a team with no defenders, I doubt Scott benches Wes.
For Scott to feel comfortable benching Wes, he would have to implement some sort of magical system that makes kobe, boozer, and Hill exceed our wildest expectations defensively.
Interesting opinion. Seems like one way defensive players have a role in the League. Safalosha, T. Allen, Battier, Barnes or even going back to Bowen or Cooper just to name a few. Solid contributors that play tough defense and hit a shot when asked.
I am interested to see if Johnson can develop into that kind of a role this year. Unlike Beasley, I think Johnson might benefit from strong guidance by Scott and a structured team. Not expecting an All-star just improvement and some consistency.
IMO Wes fits the team concept/starter role much better then Beasley. I also think Young off the bench takes that role away from Beasley too. So where does Beasley actually fit? IMO a one dimensional scorer (when he is on) that loses focus on defense and is immature in the lockerroom.
My opinion does not count on this one. The signs are there that he may be signed. Hopefully if that happens this is the year he suddenly "gets it". doubtful but I can hope.
I like the odds that Johnson develops into the all around player we hope he can be much more then Beasley being able to do it. Remember Johnson was a 4th overall pick and has a ton of potential coming out of college too.
It really doesn't take a a big change in his statistical production for Wesley Johnson to be considered a good player. All he needs to do it add another rebound or two per game and maybe one more 3 pointer made per game to make him an ideal SF. Playing next to Lin, Kobe, and a decent scoring PF like Boozer or Randle could very well put him in the perfect position to make those gains. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals.
I'm sure somebody has mentioned this before, but the real reason to get B-Easy is his friendship with Durant.
At 25 yo it's not inconceivable that Beasley is starting to mature and get serious about playing the right way. The talent has always been there, but the focus was lacking. He showed some progress last year with Miami, and the trend could continue now that he's getting into his mid-20's. Not all 18-23 year old boys are equipped to handle the dedication and commitment it takes to make it in the NBA. If Kobe and B-Scott can get him on track he could not only be a useful player, but could also be a great recruiting tool when KD hits free agency.
If this mattered, the Wizards, who hired his high school coach, would take this gamble.
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