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eureca
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 Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:47 pm Post subject: ESPN doesn't include Kobe in their top 10 Shooting Guards for the 14-15 season. |
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1: James Harden
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Monta Ellis
4. Jimmy Butler
5. Dion Waiters
6. Tyreke Evans
7. Victor Oladipo
8. Klay Thompson
9. Manu Ginobili
10. Lance Stephenson
I think you need ESPN insider to look it up on their site.
Guys apparently Oladipo is way ahead of Kobe. 
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dmorans1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Oladipo, Waiters, Evans, and Butler are laughable. ESPN gets worse by the minute. |
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thejet24
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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The most disrespected basketball player of all time
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KendrickLamar
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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ESPN never ceases to amaze me. This is all more of a reason for Kobe to prove them wrong, keep it coming #FeedTheMamba
I also think lance Stephenson deserves a higher ranking but thats just me. |
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oldschool32
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| thejet24 wrote: | | The most disrespected basketball player of all time |
Basically.
I have my doubts that Kobe will come back and play like he use to, but I'm fairly sure he should be on that list.
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eureca
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Even if we put the idiotic, stupid, laughable fact that Kobe isn't included aside. How is Klay Thompson that low? Stupid list in general. |
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dmorans1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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No Bradley Beal too.
Joe Johnson so some extent is a maybe too. Just a horrible list from top to bottom. |
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thejet24
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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By Bradford Doolittle
All you need to know about the list
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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| This WARP stat they use is a joke |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| This is giving me flashbacks to last year, when people got all bent out of shape about Kobe being picked as the #23 player in the NBA. |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Is Derrick Rose on their top 10 point guards? I really don't think he belongs on it if Kobe isn't on the top SGs list. |
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Yup that list is a joke. Kobe may not be the #1 (and that's due mostly if not all to injury probability) SG. But to not have him in the top 10 is pretty ridiculous.
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ESPN isn't (bleep)! Hell, I stopped watching or going to their website for anything sports related a while ago. It has been proven to be a joke on many things related to what the network is supposed to be going after. The sports journalism they've worked so hard to achieve has really fallen from their original base to a sometimes trivial subject just looking for shares, views and likes. All while others like Bleacher report has stepped up their game. Prove them wrong, Kobe!!
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mastersworddude
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That's an atrocious list. Demar Derozan is better than 4 and down.
The SF list is even worse, they have Antetokounmpo at 6 ahead of Kawhi and Parsons. |
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K28
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ESPN is basically irrelevant right now. Too many other places to get your sports fix if you want it. Otherwise, I only watch if have a game on that I can't watch anywhere else.
They can have their opinions....why should we choose to care though?
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how anyone can agree with this list. Its clearly asinine.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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No surprise... ESPN/TNT/NBA have been erasing him from the "storyline" since '11. They rather him chase legacy records than rings. Case in point the CBA and the CP3 Veto. LeBron is the one they've been pumping up since then (Even before '11 frankly) and that's their business. I don't care to be a "witness". I've already committed to only watch Laker related games not involving Dan Gilbert, LeBron, and such. F them...
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That's just a bad list period. Jimmy Butler over Lance? What?
Dion Waiters over Klay? Ninja please.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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| That list doesn't seem too well thought, but even then, I'm sure Kobe will love being regarded as a has-been. Nothing is sweeter than proving your doubters wrong. God, I want this season to start already! Kobe is gonna be spectacular this year! |
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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Bulletin board material. Shock the world. Gunning for that #1 spot.
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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The entire list:
PG:
1. Chris Paul, Los Angeles Clippers
2. Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Stephen Curry, Golden State Warriors
4. John Wall, Washington Wizards
5. Kyrie Irving, Cleveland Cavaliers
6. Kyle Lowry, Toronto Raptors
7. Damian Lillard, Portland Trail Blazers
8. Mike Conley, Memphis Grizzlies
9. Ricky Rubio, Minnesota Timberwolves
10. Ty Lawson, Denver Nuggets |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | Bulletin board material. Shock the world. Gunning for that #1 spot. |
I've gone on record as saying that Kobe is the most universally disliked all-time great in any sport ever. The complete opposite of Jordan in terms of likeability. This article further proves my point.
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mastersworddude
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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It's based on some silly WARP stat.
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Next five: Kobe Bryant, Bradley Beal, Danny Green, Wesley Matthews, J.R. Smith
Beal's winning percentage fell from his rookie season, and he's been negative in RPM on both ends of the floor in both of his NBA seasons. Yet his late-season performance, including the playoffs, suggest he'll move well up this leaderboard by next summer. As for Bryant, his playing-time forecast is predictably suppressed, but even if it weren't, his projected winning percentage would just barely get him into the top 10.
Also notable: DeMar DeRozan, Joe Johnson
DeRozan is probably underrated at this point, but it's no mystery as to why: He had a fine 2013-14 season with 5.4 WARP, but he had been well under replacement level in each of his four campaigns. One more solid season, and DeRozan will be a top-10 fixture.
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cheetos82
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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SF:
1. LeBron James, Cleveland Cavaliers
2. Kevin Durant, Oklahoma City Thunder
3. Carmelo Anthony, New York Knicks
4. Gordon Hayward, Utah Jazz
5. Nicolas Batum, Portland Trail Blazers
6. Giannis Antetokounmpo, Milwaukee Bucks
7. Andre Iguodala, Golden State Warriors
8. Kawhi Leonard, San Antonio Spurs
9. Chandler Parsons, Dallas Mavericks
10. Rudy Gay, Sacramento Kings |
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dmorans1
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| Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| So DeRozan is not on the SG or the SF list. This guy is the most underrated guy in the NBA. Lowry gets all the love in TOR while no one noticed how DeRozan jumped from an average player to a stud while having the highest usage rating on that team. |
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