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Darth Los Angeles
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 Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:59 am Post subject: It would be nice for the Lakers to finally "Home Grow" a mega star Power Forward or Center |
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The Lakers have drafted and grown their own mega star PG, SG, and SF. But they have yet to draft and grow their own PF and C. We've probably had the best group of C's to ever play the game, but we didn't draft or grow them.
I'd love to finally see the Lakers draft and grow a generational transcending PF. A Tim Duncan level talent. It's the only piece that we've never had.
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KobeRe-Loaded
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:53 am Post subject: |
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Sounds sooooo easy.
Lets find one of these 24 pts 12 reb 4 blk players in the draft.
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Darth Los Angeles
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Sounds sooooo easy.
Lets find one of these 24 pts 12 reb 4 blk players in the draft.
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Who said it was easy?
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Staccatos
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Elgin Baylor? #1 Draft pick in 1958 for the Lakers
27.4 ppg, 13.5 rpg, 4.1 apg career averages. Oh wait, maybe Baylor is a SF.
How about James Worthy? He played some PF.
George Mikan at C? |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 5:56 am Post subject: |
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| I think this season will entirely depend on randle if he becomes 25+ ppg and 12 boards per game player. Than the lakers are set |
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Darth Los Angeles
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| LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | | I think this season will entirely depend on randle if he becomes 25+ ppg and 12 boards per game player. Than the lakers are set |
I am a big supporter of Randle. I just don't think he has the game to AVERAGE 25 ppg. I could be wrong. Maybe he could do it eventually because of the lack of skills needed to be dominant in this era. But I don't see him being the central hub in which we operate through. I hope he proves me wrong.
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | | I think this season will entirely depend on randle if he becomes 25+ ppg and 12 boards per game player. Than the lakers are set |
That is setting the bar pretty high, don't you think? Those are current K. Love All-star stats.
Just for comparison.
- K.Love rookie season 11pts/9 reb... 2nd year 14pts/11reb
- Z. Randolph rookie season- only 6mpg...2nd year-8pts/5reb 3rd- 20pts/10reb on 38mpg though.
- L. Aldridge- rookie 9/5... 2nd 18/7.5 ... 3rd-18/7.5
- A. Davis rookie 13/8.5 and 2nd - 21/10
I like Randle and think he can develop into a great player for the Lakers. But he will need to add a consistent mid range jumper to score in the 20's. I would be thrilled if he could be in the 14pt/8reb range this year.
Anything more would be amazing for a rookie! But a little patience is going to be needed. |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| i don't care what position they play I just want another home grown star. Randle and Clarkson both have what it takes to get there and I believe they can do it |
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japanesebeef1
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 8:43 am Post subject: Re: It would be nice for the Lakers to finally "Home Grow" a mega star Power Forward or Center |
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| Darth Los Angeles wrote: |
I'd love to see the Lakers draft and grow a generational transcending megastar. |
ok fixed! I'm not picky. |
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| we need to get bynum back we need him to win the championships this season we need to sign him quickly i heard from friends source that charlotte is interested |
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a2j1m
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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| kobe_4_mvp wrote: | | we need to get bynum back we need him to win the championships this season we need to sign him quickly i heard from friends source that charlotte is interested |
Not sure if serious |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | | I think this season will entirely depend on randle if he becomes 25+ ppg and 12 boards per game player. Than the lakers are set |
Since 1989, only 79 out of 280 total Lottery picks even made 1 All Star team - much less became a top 10 player.
That's about 28%...so, only 1 in 4 Lottery picks will make even 1 All Star team.
From 2000-2010, 32 out of 140 Lottery picks made either an All Star or All NBA team - or about 22%
In simpler teams, 3 out of every 4 Lottery picks will NOT even make an All Star team.
expecting Randle to become a 25ppg 12rpg in his ENTIRE career is betting long odds indeed.
Expecting him to do it as a rookie in the stacked West is the highest form of fantasy
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| 22 wrote: | | i don't care what position they play I just want another home grown star. Randle and Clarkson both have what it takes to get there and I believe they can do it |
This. Right now we need a homegrown mega star at any position. |
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| PrplReign wrote: | | We did, but his knees turned out to be made of glass. |
Indeed. If only teammates did not break these knees...
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PG Johnson / Goodrich
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PF Mikkelsen / Hairston / McAdoo / Gasol
C Chamberlain / Abdul-Jabbar / O'Neal / Mikan |
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| Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| P.K. wrote: |
expecting Randle to become a 25ppg 12rpg in his ENTIRE career is betting long odds indeed. |
But isn't that a sweet dream.. Uhhh.
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PG Johnson / Goodrich
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Darth Los Angeles wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Sounds sooooo easy.
Lets find one of these 24 pts 12 reb 4 blk players in the draft.
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Who said it was easy? |
Drafting a healthy franchise center is kinda easy, emphisis on kinda. |
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lakers0505
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Darth Los Angeles wrote: | | KobeRe-Loaded wrote: | Sounds sooooo easy.
Lets find one of these 24 pts 12 reb 4 blk players in the draft.
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Who said it was easy? |
Drafting a healthy franchise center is kinda easy, emphisis on kinda. |
Kinda like close out games, easy peasy. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Uhhhh....Hello.....Sacre says get a clue. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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| PrplReign wrote: | | We did, but his knees turned out to be made of glass. |
He was home grown though. Home grown for medical purposes. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2014 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| P.K. wrote: | | LAKERSCMXCIX wrote: | | I think this season will entirely depend on randle if he becomes 25+ ppg and 12 boards per game player. Than the lakers are set |
Since 1989, only 79 out of 280 total Lottery picks even made 1 All Star team - much less became a top 10 player.
That's about 28%...so, only 1 in 4 Lottery picks will make even 1 All Star team.
From 2000-2010, 32 out of 140 Lottery picks made either an All Star or All NBA team - or about 22%
In simpler teams, 3 out of every 4 Lottery picks will NOT even make an All Star team.
expecting Randle to become a 25ppg 12rpg in his ENTIRE career is betting long odds indeed.
Expecting him to do it as a rookie in the stacked West is the highest form of fantasy |
Those numbers are hard to interpret. A lot of those players were drafted based on projected potential. I think Randle was picked based on current skill level and his accomplishments. |
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| s_habe wrote: | | PrplReign wrote: | | We did, but his knees turned out to be made of glass. |
Indeed. If only teammates did not break these knees... |
So true. So messed up |
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The OP's memory is rather short. Both Rudy LaRusso and AC Green were classic power forwards, and both were drafted and kept as Lakers for near a decade each. Elden Campbell stayed equally long as LaRusso.
Though not vying for all-time great status across the league, these guys were strong players. I won't be surprised to see Randle drive his truck down a similar road for us, if he chooses to stay. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2014 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| DoubleClutch wrote: | | Vlade Divac? |
Made the most popular assist in Laker franchise history.
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