When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2014 5:20 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
The team stunk under Marshall. Do you understand the term "empty stats"? My god he couldn't even stick on the summer league team.
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
First of all Marshall is a crappier version of Rondo. Whom i think is extremely overrated, a good passer who cannot finish for (bleep), and play w/ 3 alpha dogs from other teams (Allan, KG, and Pierce), crap, if you can't get an all time assist leader out of that team, you don't deserve to play PG.
Lin is very different, he can score and pass, and has a great eye for open teammates, but he is very streaky, and often suffer from confidence issues, (hi HOF Mchale). He can be great, if he is used properly and run a team ball offense for you. Lin won't shoot you out of playoffs, if he is cold or see a man open, he will pass to create assists. He just have to learn from Nash how to pass more efficiently - his pass sometimes are too risky, probably due to his speed, so his tempo is faster than Nash's.
now the problem, why a lot of people think Lin suck or not exciting even after the Linsanity? Answer>>>> system, Lin is a PG, a good one, but he played in a team w/o a system. So he won't stand out, and to Rockets he is expandable as their 5th option. and to me Lin is not a good fit under a Mchale who praise personal ability over team ball. If Scott install a system in Lakers, whether is the complex Princeton or simple PnR, Lin will surprise people who are booing him right now. We just have to wait and see.
Meanwhile he's been the 5th shooting option for the Rockets
Why do you think that is?
Go look at Mchale post game interviews, if you look at his facial express when Lin had a great game and being asked about, Mchale look like he just eat (bleep).
And at one point Mchale answered, "he (jLin) play well for us, i took him out third quarter."
So this should give you a clue why he is the 5th option on the team.
Another point, do you see Rocket's offense last year? a team w/ D12, J Harden and JLin and they run min PnR and had least screen, what the heck is their coach thinking?
Lakers had the problem with Dwight as well. We had Nash and Dwight and still Dwight refused to run the PnR.... that's mostly on Howard.
Dwight just doesn't want to play to his strengths, instead he tries to rely on his subpar post up game. He can try to develop a post up game but he should not ignore his developed PnR game in the process.
Meanwhile he's been the 5th shooting option for the Rockets
Why do you think that is?
Go look at Mchale post game interviews, if you look at his facial express when Lin had a great game and being asked about, Mchale look like he just eat (bleep).
And at one point Mchale answered, "he (jLin) play well for us, i took him out third quarter."
So this should give you a clue why he is the 5th option on the team.
Another point, do you see Rocket's offense last year? a team w/ D12, J Harden and JLin and they run min PnR and had least screen, what the heck is their coach thinking?
Lakers had the problem with Dwight as well. We had Nash and Dwight and still Dwight refused to run the PnR.... that's mostly on Howard.
Dwight just doesn't want to play to his strengths, instead he tries to rely on his subpar post up game. He can try to develop a post up game but he should not ignore his developed PnR game in the process.
he try to establish himself as a great player instead living in the shadow of a PG, but forgot that a ring will justify your means.
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
The team stunk under Marshall. Do you understand the term "empty stats"? My god he couldn't even stick on the summer league team.
Summer League makes you look good when you're a scorer, not when you're a pass first point guard. And in summer league Marshall had to play off-ball at the 2 in scenarios when they'd run Clarkson at the 1, situations you'd never see him run in an actual game. Understand what Summer League actually is, its a place for scorers to be showcased.
That's why Marshall looked best when Clarkson was off ball and he was setting up Randle and Clarkson and everyone else for their shots(whether they were talented enough to make them or not) and why he looked bad when he was playing off-ball 2 to Clarkson.
Using summer league as a barometer for a past first poitn guard when likely 10 of the 15 people on their team aren't talented enough to convert the shot opportunities they get is silly.
And yes I know the term "empty stats" . Kevin Love made a living out of them. Didn't stop Lakers fans from wanting him though did it.
Understand the predicament to the person that compared Marshall to empty stats.
He didn't become 2nd in the NBA in assists surrounded by 3 all-stars. He near lead the NBA in assists passing on a team whose 4th best player was Robert Sacre.
Does anyone expect Lin to be in the top 10 in assists and assist-to-TO ratio (which I believe Blake was in the first 20 games last season)?
If those are your only criteria, at least pick the Laker's pg who had the better assists per game and assist-to-TO ratio last year, Kendall Marshall.
game winning shots, leadership, defense... Blake had the team in playoff contention.
I can't read your mind and can only respond to what you wrote.
Marshall>Blake in assists and TO ratio.
Blake>Lin in TO ratio (That's Lin's biggest weakness in my opinion, because his play style is so aggressive).
Lin>Blake in assists going by career #s. (Lin - 4.8 assts, Blake -4 assts). Blake did have his best assist #'s of his 11 year career, during the 27 games he played for the Lakers last year, but fell back to around his career #'s when he got traded.
Lin won't be in the top 10 in assist to TO ratio, but he does have a chance to be in the top 10 in assist. In 2 of the last 3 years he has averaged 6+ assists. It's not that big a stretch to get 1.5 more on a different team.
Game winning shots- I think clutch shooting is a better measure. Last 5 mins. of a 5 point game.
Blake-30%
Lin-48%
Lin>Blake in clutch shooting.
Not sure how to compare leadership. But, all the young players for the Rockets only had positive things to say about Lin. And there are the videos of Lin drawing up a play during the end of a close game for the team as McHale just watches. Here's one of the games
Defense- I think Lin is a solid defender. He isn't a tenacious on ball defender, but he is always putting in effort.
Lin=Blake in defense.
Where Lin has the biggest advantage is that Blake scored 9.5 points on 37.8% shooting in 33 mins of play. Lin will most likely exceed those numbers.
The Lakers were 12-15 when Blake played for them. That's not playoff contention. But, it is much better than their record after they traded him.
Does anyone expect Lin to be in the top 10 in assists and assist-to-TO ratio (which I believe Blake was in the first 20 games last season)?
If those are your only criteria, at least pick the Laker's pg who had the better assists per game and assist-to-TO ratio last year, Kendall Marshall.
game winning shots, leadership, defense... Blake had the team in playoff contention.
I can't read your mind and can only respond to what you wrote.
Marshall>Blake in assists and TO ratio.
Blake>Lin in TO ratio (That's Lin's biggest weakness in my opinion, because his play style is so aggressive).
Lin>Blake in assists going by career #s. (Lin - 4.8 assts, Blake -4 assts). Blake did have his best assist #'s of his 11 year career, during the 27 games he played for the Lakers last year, but fell back to around his career #'s when he got traded.
Lin won't be in the top 10 in assist to TO ratio, but he does have a chance to be in the top 10 in assist. In 2 of the last 3 years he has averaged 6+ assists. It's not that big a stretch to get 1.5 more on a different team.
Game winning shots- I think clutch shooting is a better measure. Last 5 mins. of a 5 point game.
Blake-30%
Lin-48%
Lin>Blake in clutch shooting.
Not sure how to compare leadership. But, all the young players for the Rockets only had positive things to say about Lin. And there are the videos of Lin drawing up a play during the end of a close game for the team as McHale just watches. Here's one of the games
Defense- I think Lin is a solid defender. He isn't a tenacious on ball defender, but he is always putting in effort.
Lin=Blake in defense.
Where Lin has the biggest advantage is that Blake scored 9.5 points on 37.8% shooting in 33 mins of play. Lin will most likely exceed those numbers.
The Lakers were 12-15 when Blake played for them. That's not playoff contention. But, it is much better than their record after they traded him.
Nice breakdown. Though I'd probably place Lin a little higher than Blake defensively but he has young legs too.
It's another reason why I'm glad he's been working on defense this off-season, more balanced stance, staying low, quick movements, explosiveness. It's really really good to see.
Far as I know and have seen everyone on the Lakers has worked their tail off this off-season to come into camp in the best shape of their careers, the only one I haven't seen or heard from in terms of this is Jordan Hill.... that worries me.
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Posted: Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject:
kinein wrote:
Wino wrote:
waterman40 wrote:
Once Lin does it for reals wearing the P & G, then we can rank him. NVE and Sedale Threatt is a pretty high threshold. Leave the Magic word out till you bring 2-3 rings and a MVP to the table....
Really, no offense to Lin, but he will never be another Magic. If we won 5 rings while Lin was here, I would not throw that kind of praise on him.
Lin don't play like Magic. He is more of a Hybrid just like Kobe and Lebron can play more than 1 position, Lin is a cross between pg and sg. I'd say he's best when he is aggressive and scoring, it opens up the passing game for him.
Can you not try to draw a comparison with Magic, no one disputes the rings. But Magic himself has said the Lakers havent had anything like Lin in a long while.
First off, I didn't bring up the Magic comparison, just pointed out the obvious in response.
Second, you Lin fans are trying way too hard to convince everyone that he walks on water.
I've seen people walk on water, and Lin has not walked on water.
He is a decent player but I am not convinced that he is a difference maker. I am open minded to finding that out, if it occurs but all you Lin fans should know that you are NOT helping his cause by not just letting HIM prove it on the court. _________________ Never argue with stupid people! They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!! - Twain
Once Lin does it for reals wearing the P & G, then we can rank him. NVE and Sedale Threatt is a pretty high threshold. Leave the Magic word out till you bring 2-3 rings and a MVP to the table....
Really, no offense to Lin, but he will never be another Magic. If we won 5 rings while Lin was here, I would not throw that kind of praise on him.
Lin don't play like Magic. He is more of a Hybrid just like Kobe and Lebron can play more than 1 position, Lin is a cross between pg and sg. I'd say he's best when he is aggressive and scoring, it opens up the passing game for him.
Can you not try to draw a comparison with Magic, no one disputes the rings. But Magic himself has said the Lakers havent had anything like Lin in a long while.
First off, I didn't bring up the Magic comparison, just pointed out the obvious in response.
Second, you Lin fans are trying way too hard to convince everyone that he walks on water.
I've seen people walk on water, and Lin has not walked on water.
He is a decent player but I am not convinced that he is a difference maker. I am open minded to finding that out, if it occurs but all you Lin fans should know that you are NOT helping his cause by not just letting HIM prove it on the court.
The actual problem is that when he actually has proved it on the court some Lin fans overrate him and others underrate him. The reality is he's somewhere in the middle and neither side wants to admit that he's either better than they think he is or that he might not be as great as they assume him to be.
The reality is that Lin is better than Fisher and not as good as Magic. That's about as honest as it will get.
But before anyone wants to talk about being 'underwhelmed' about what Lin can give to us.
I'll bring up the fact that Lin averaged what Sessions and Nash have in their Lakers careers while being misused off the bench..
Sessions the savior averaged 12/6 as a Laker as a starter.
Steve Nash averaged 12/6 as a Laker as a starter and the year he left Phoenix was 12/10
Lin averaged 13/4 coming off the bench...
So put that into perspective before you wonder 'how good' Lin is and look at the last two people that have been praised. Sessions especially during his tenure here.
Also understand that Van Exel's best season as a Laker he averaged 16/8. In Lin's "underwhelming" first season with the Rockets he averaged 13/6.
Also understand Van Exel only averaged 3 more points than Lin on 4 more shots.
Also know that people who wonder about Lin's shooting and wonder if Van Exel was better than him, remember the Lin we're "critical" of Lin's shooting because it's 44%, Nick Van Exel never shot higher than 42% in his entire 14 year career...
So when someone says Lin may be the best point guard we've had since Magic they're probably right and you're hanging onto Van Exel for nostalgic reasons.
Once Lin does it for reals wearing the P & G, then we can rank him. NVE and Sedale Threatt is a pretty high threshold. Leave the Magic word out till you bring 2-3 rings and a MVP to the table....
Really, no offense to Lin, but he will never be another Magic. If we won 5 rings while Lin was here, I would not throw that kind of praise on him.
Lin don't play like Magic. He is more of a Hybrid just like Kobe and Lebron can play more than 1 position, Lin is a cross between pg and sg. I'd say he's best when he is aggressive and scoring, it opens up the passing game for him.
Can you not try to draw a comparison with Magic, no one disputes the rings. But Magic himself has said the Lakers havent had anything like Lin in a long while.
First off, I didn't bring up the Magic comparison, just pointed out the obvious in response.
Second, you Lin fans are trying way too hard to convince everyone that he walks on water.
I've seen people walk on water, and Lin has not walked on water.
He is a decent player but I am not convinced that he is a difference maker. I am open minded to finding that out, if it occurs but all you Lin fans should know that you are NOT helping his cause by not just letting HIM prove it on the court.
you realized that the guy that created this thread has been a member since 2002 right?
without this thread, there wont be much Lin talk here...
I dont think lin fans are trying hard to convince anyone, they just like talking about lin..
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:15 am Post subject:
AVoiceInTheCrowd wrote:
The Lakers were 12-15 when Blake played for them. That's not playoff contention. But, it is much better than their record after they traded him.
They were 10-9 and 1 game out of the 8th spot before Kobe came back, and Blake's injury coincided with that return. He also had the team shooting the lights out from 3-point range (himself including) which quickly deteriorated after the aforementioned date. Season totals last season don't tell you much of the story.
There isn't a coach alive btw who would prefer Lin to a hard-nosed competitor like Blake for defensive purposes. Yes I realize this is not on the stat sheet.
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
Oh man! Are there still Lakers fans talking about Kendall Marshall? I spent most of last season having to school a bunch of Marshall fanatics how he stunk and this was during his hot streak when he first got playing time.
This was one of the worst PG ever to have donned a Lakers uniform but because he put up pretty assists numbers many fans were fooled. He couldnt defend his position, couldnt finish well, couldnt get a step on a defender, had a slow, low release on his shot and was inaccurate other than when he was wide open.
All he could do was pass and that one skill will not keep you in the NBA when you are that bad at EVERYTHING else.
Yes he was accurate at first but chalk that up to a simple hot streak and the league not paying much attention to him, once they did look what happened:
Marshall’s production and efficiency dipped dramatically after his great start: from 2/21 to the end of season, a period that spans 28 games, Marshall averaged 5.5 points per game and shot 34.1 percent from the field, 28.8 percent from behind the 3 point line and a horrid 44.4 from the free throw line.
Those arnt NBA level numers. He continued playing bad in summer league, getting outplayed by a guy they just drafted in the 2nd round.
There is a reason the Lakers straight waived Marshall. If they really wanted him and felt he was an asset he would have held on to him . Sure they might have resigned him had he cleared waivers but they knew he wouldnt and they were okay with that because he sucked.
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
Oh man! Are there still Lakers fans talking about Kendall Marshall? I spent most of last season having to school a bunch of Marshall fanatics how he stunk and this was during his hot streak when he first got playing time.
This was one of the worst PG ever to have donned a Lakers uniform but because he put up pretty assists numbers many fans were fooled. He couldnt defend his position, couldnt finish well, couldnt get a step on a defender, had a slow, low release on his shot and was inaccurate other than when he was wide open.
All he could do was pass and that one skill will not keep you in the NBA when you are that bad at EVERYTHING else.
Yes he was accurate at first but chalk that up to a simple hot streak and the league not paying much attention to him, once they did look what happened:
Marshall’s production and efficiency dipped dramatically after his great start: from 2/21 to the end of season, a period that spans 28 games, Marshall averaged 5.5 points per game and shot 34.1 percent from the field, 28.8 percent from behind the 3 point line and a horrid 44.4 from the free throw line.
Those arnt NBA level numers. He continued playing bad in summer league, getting outplayed by a guy they just drafted in the 2nd round.
There is a reason the Lakers straight waived Marshall. If they really wanted him and felt he was an asset he would have held on to him . Sure they might have resigned him had he cleared waivers but they knew he wouldnt and they were okay with that because he sucked.
Marshall played more games than Jordan Farmar whom had a half a season start on him. So Marshall's sample size was just fine.
Marshall didn't start to get out of rhythm till D'antoni started messing with his minutes in February. Mind you despite his minutes being messed with he still averaged 7/9 on only 27 minutes played for game and was still shooting 43% from three and getting those 9 assists in 27 minutes playing with Sacre and Kaman, no Gasol to carry it. I don't know how that doesn't impress you or if you're just wearing hating glasses.
After this D'atoni cut his minutes again from 27 to 24-25 minutes. For reasons unknown. What this means is that the subsequent games when Marshall had 11, 10, 14, and 10 assists were at around 25 minutes per game. Please name me another point guard that's accomplished that before you call Marshall the "worst point guard to don a Lakers uniform". You either have no clue or you're just hating Marshall. In the final month of the season the guy had a 15 assist game in 24 minutes and a 15/11 game in 28 minutes. So despite D'antoni constantly cutting his minutes he was still putting up numbers like that and his shot only seemed to start failing him when D'antoni started cutting his minutes and halting his momentum and rhythm.
When you lay out what Marshall was able to do and then consider who the role players on the team were that he was putting up these numbers with it makes what he did impressive. Whether you like his personality or whether you dislike his twitter, the fact of the matter is he actually was one of the more skilled point guard we have had in a long time. The guy was the number one point guard in the nation 2 years ago for a reason.
The funniest thing is when someone that wants to discredit what he did tries to act like assists mean nothing.
Understand that 10 assists means that you've given 20 points in the least to your team, 30 at most.
What this means is that when Marshall had a 15/11 game he was responsible for 37-48 points that the Lakers scored that night be it through his own scoring or his own assists. When he had the 0 point 10 assist game in our win vs OKC we don't win without those 20-30 points he assisted on that night and he found ways to be effective even when his shot was off by getting guys involved.
Assists matter a whole bunch, trying to discredit their meaning because you don't like a player is silly. Marshall was one of the better point guards we had and us losing games wasn't because of him. We won 14 of our 27 games last season with him that's more than half of our wins.
So think about that.
Marshall was the guy that would have been trusted to lead our bench unit full of scorers and pass the ball around and he could be counted on to stay healthy a heck of a lot better than Nash can be at this point.
Marshall leading a bench unit of scoring like Nick Young, slashing like Xavier Henry, pick and roll of Randle and Davis and floor stretching of Kelly would have been nice to watch. Now we have to count on Nash to stay healthy enough to give us that. If he can we'll be fine, if he can't...
There's a reason the Lakers were going to bring Marshall right back if Milwaukee didn't upset our plans and now the Bucks have Marshall passing the ball to the likes of Jabari Parker, Greek freak, OJ mayo and pick and rolling with Larry Sanders. Pass first point guards always have a place in this league, especially when they can shoot 40% from three to keep defenses honest in the very least, particularly when they shoot a whopping 75% in clutch statistics.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject:
kobeandgary wrote:
EchoZulu wrote:
kobeandgary wrote:
i believe Smush Parker would destroy Lin 1 on 1, for whatever that's worth lol
Your thoughts on Lin and Sterling is worth nothing in here.
they of the same value of that of anyone else. Do you disagree with my opinion that Smush Parker would defeat Lin 1 on 1?
Who knows who'd win in a 1 on 1 comp.? And frankly, who the eff cares? The better question, and the more important one is, who would you rather have on your team? To me, the answer is undoubtedly Lin. He plays harder, makes better decisions with the ball, more coachable, and is a better teammate. Lin constantly works on his game and actually tries on the defensive end. But, you wouldn't see nor admit that because, judging from your posting history, you come off as a bigot. _________________ The butter's hard and the eggs are chillin' in the dark.
The Lakers were 12-15 when Blake played for them. That's not playoff contention. But, it is much better than their record after they traded him.
They were 10-9 and 1 game out of the 8th spot before Kobe came back, and Blake's injury coincided with that return. He also had the team shooting the lights out from 3-point range (himself including) which quickly deteriorated after the aforementioned date. Season totals last season don't tell you much of the story.
There isn't a coach alive btw who would prefer Lin to a hard-nosed competitor like Blake for defensive purposes. Yes I realize this is not on the stat sheet.
The Lakers had a good start to the season last year, but no one knows exactly why. If they did, the Lakers wouldn't of played so badly afterwards. Blake didn't lead the Lakers to a 10-9 start. He was just part of the team when they had the good run. If Blake was healthy and played the whole season with the Lakers, they still wouldn't of been close to making the playoffs. 3-point shooting is something that fluctuates throughout the season for individuals and teams. The Lakers shot 40.6% in November when Blake played most of his games but, their best month was February when they shot 44.5% and Blake was long gone.
I would take a 26 year old hustling point guard over a 34 year old hard nosed point guard for defense every day of the year. And if you think every coach would take the 34 year old, there is no point in having a discussion.
D Fish kept us in many games and undeniably contributed to many of our championships. Until Lin does the same, Lin is not better than Fish.
Damn straight. Show some respect for The Fish. We wouldn't have won in 2009 without him for sure. _________________ Lakers, today. Lakers, tomorrow. Lakers, forever.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:03 am Post subject:
AVoiceInTheCrowd wrote:
The Lakers had a good start to the season last year, but no one knows exactly why.
Because they ran the friggin' offense properly and made A LOT of threes! It's not rocket science. The coach had an entire training camp to get them on the same page and they largely followed the script and ended up exceeding expectations. Once Kobe returned and the injury upheaval began that went out the window and they started losing.
BTW was Derek Fisher was 39 last season got minutes over "young hustling" players because of his defense. Will and intelligence will often exceed age.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:15 am Post subject:
MJST wrote:
When you have Lakers fans that bash Marshall whom was 2nd in the NBA in assists and shot 40% from three and then they turn around and Bash Lin I think some of them are still mad about CP3.
Cause you had the best passing PG in the NBA in his 2nd year and you talked down about him, you're getting Jeremy Lin and are not impressed.
Honestly I dion't think some fans know what they want. Or rather I do. They want Chris Paul or Russell Westbrook.
Not happening. If Lin averages 15-6/7 hold on to him.
I want a real NBA player. Lin is that, Marshall is not. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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