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| Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
Love this idea that agents aren't supposed to violate an unspoken sacrosanct pledge to never posture their clients as better than Kobe. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
Love this idea that agents aren't supposed to violate an unspoken sacrosanct pledge to never posture their clients as better than Kobe. |
Hail Bryant, full of fundamentals. Thy fade away is with thee. |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
You understand that Bill Duffy (Klay's agent), has 34 NBA clients, with a total of $141m in current salaries earned for them?
http://hoopshype.com/agents/bill_duffy.htm
I think he knows what he's doing here. If you're trying to coax a reluctant Warriors team into giving him a 5 year max, he needs to advocate strongly for his client, which includes some hyperbole. And yes, if I'm the Warriors, the last thing I want to hear is that Klay thinks he's at best the 3rd or 4th SG right now. Even if not true, I'd rather hear the "I'm the best and will work to be the best" line than "hey, I'm a top 5 SG" defeatist language.
Simply put, if Duffy doesn't sell his client in this manner, he may not get the max. And if he doesn't, he's not doing his fiduciary duty for Klay.
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| Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
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| KBH wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
Love this idea that agents aren't supposed to violate an unspoken sacrosanct pledge to never posture their clients as better than Kobe. |
Hail Bryant, full of fundamentals. Thy fade away is with thee. |
I don't think Kobe's legacy will be defined by what he does these next 2 seasons, as much as Jordan's stint in Washington is not included either in his general narrative. Kobe's body of work is sufficient and amazing. It's the reality that he is 36 and 37 in his final 2 years, and anything he does is a cherry on top of his already 1st ballot, unanimous HOF career, (top 10 player all time easily). People take exception to the fact that Kobe isn't likely the Kobe of old due to age and injuries. That's fine. But I think we all agree about the vast body of Kobe's work. It's amazing and honestly, he doesn't have anything else to prove in my book.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:36 am Post subject: |
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| Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
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| 3 pages of insecurity lol. |
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yinoma2001
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I LOVED how a young Kobe would say that he could beat MJ one on one. Granted, Klay is NOWHERE near Kobe's level of talent at comparable ages, but wouldn't Kobe be the first one to smile at Klay and say, "my dog..."?
I think we're being way too sensitive about this. Klay couldn't even touch Kobe's sandals when Kobe was in his prime. But to say that he could best a 36 year old iteration of Kobe, that's frankly, Kobe-esque. And that's a good thing for a person seeking a max contract.
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Only unreasonable people are being sensitive. Not only is there nothing wrong with Klay thinking he is better, but there's no evidence that he even said something like that to begin with. Let his agent maneuver and attempt to maximize Klay's earnings.
FWIW, if Kobe and Klay played one-on-one right now, I'd still bet the house on Kobe. Even with diminished athleticism, his game is made for ISO/one-on-one.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
Your mistake is assuming that everyone know it is not true.
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right? |
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
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KBH
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | KBH wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Of course an agent would upsell his client. That is their job. |
Upselling your client isn't the same as making a ridiculous statement that everyone knows is not true. Hand down man down. |
Love this idea that agents aren't supposed to violate an unspoken sacrosanct pledge to never posture their clients as better than Kobe. |
Hail Bryant, full of fundamentals. Thy fade away is with thee. |
I don't think Kobe's legacy will be defined by what he does these next 2 seasons, as much as Jordan's stint in Washington is not included either in his general narrative. Kobe's body of work is sufficient and amazing. It's the reality that he is 36 and 37 in his final 2 years, and anything he does is a cherry on top of his already 1st ballot, unanimous HOF career, (top 10 player all time easily). People take exception to the fact that Kobe isn't likely the Kobe of old due to age and injuries. That's fine. But I think we all agree about the vast body of Kobe's work. It's amazing and honestly, he doesn't have anything else to prove in my book. |
He definitely has nothing left to prove which makes it funny to me that people still get worked up about "slights" like this. Kobe is etched in stone as one of the best to ever do it. Chill, bruh! |
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Get dat money Klay!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:37 am Post subject: |
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right? |
Wasn't Harden second team all d last year? Yeah, that (bleep) isn't very credible. It's based on past rep and not on current performance far too often. Kobe had a number of years he slacked a lot on D most games with lock down D when he cared. |
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right? |
Wasn't Harden second team all d last year? Yeah, that (bleep) isn't very credible. It's based on past rep and not on current performance far too often. Kobe had a number of years he slacked a lot on D most games with lock down D when he cared. |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | Wasn't Harden second team all d last year? |
No
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| Once steph steps off the court Klay gets exposed for his lak of being able to creat shots |
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yinoma2001
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Love how the thread's title still is misleading.
"Klay Thompson's tells his AGENT to say he is a better SG than Kobe Bryant - Article"
Why not "ordered," "demanded," "instructed," or "under the threat of death commanded..."?
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
LOL. WTHever buddy. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| mhan00 wrote: | | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right? |
Wasn't Harden second team all d last year? Yeah, that (bleep) isn't very credible. It's based on past rep and not on current performance far too often. Kobe had a number of years he slacked a lot on D most games with lock down D when he cared. |
That was the basis of my earlier comment. Not that Kobe didn't deserve to be on the all D team, just that I am not real impressed with awards that involve voting.
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| Chronicle wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Wasn't Harden second team all d last year? |
No |
Bah, my crappy memory somehow transcribed Harden getting two votes for the all defensive team to him being second team all d. Still insanely dumb on he part of the two voters, but hardly making second team all d. I'm getting old, sigh. |
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That was the basis of my earlier comment. Not that Kobe didn't deserve to be on the all D team, just that I am not real impressed with awards that involve voting. |
Agreed, ditch all individual awards that are voted on. Only titles should be factored into success. 
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| Gwyn wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
That was the basis of my earlier comment. Not that Kobe didn't deserve to be on the all D team, just that I am not real impressed with awards that involve voting. |
Agreed, ditch all individual awards that are voted on. Only titles should be factored into success. |
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| youngkyun739 wrote: | | My agent also said that I'm a better shooting guard than Kobe. He also said that 15 minutes could save me 15% or more on car insurance. |
I need to call Jake from State Farm. At 3:00 in the morning. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | | Birmingham wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing |
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade. |
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right? |
Just a testament to how much respect he has throughout the league. He got votes based on his abilities and what he had done in the past, he was almost never given a heavy load on defense once he started being relied on to carry the offense.
Klay is just a 3 and D guy and that's typical of the players that are referred to as "2 way" players. If Klay became their #1 option on offense, they'd be hiding him on defense to keep him fresh just like has been done with Kobe. |
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