I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
The all D teams are better now, at least a tad more consistent with what's going on, although i do think lebron got an achievement award last season, i don't see it lasting multiple seasons, it seems insulting to the players whose job is to come in and guard the stronger wing so the star has more for offense, and then said star gets on the all d teams. _________________ I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
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Will be interesting to see how Kerr uses Thompson, under Jackson he seemed to just hang out at the 3 pt line and wait for a pass, I think he has improved over the years but still cant touch Kobe
Oh look a "Someone said something that could be considered a slight to Kobe" thread.
I don't get the Klay Thompson hype though, I think he's a bit overrated.
Klay is not overrated. He's an exceptional player, and may become an All-Star one of these days when Kobe and Wade retire.
But the reality is Klay isn't on the same tier as Kobe, Jordan, Kareem, Wilt, or Magic like Klay and his agent is insinuating.
Klay Thompson is nowhere near a max player. So yes, he is a tad bit overrated.
Yup. But the point is, his AGENT is trying to sell the Warriors to give him a max 5 year deal (probably with an opt out for the new TV deal). That by its very definition requires overselling and overrating. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ.
Tony Allen is usually too busy guarding Kevin Durant to guard Russell Westbrook (what with having Mike Conley at pg and all as well...), but it's got nothing to do with what you can do. Players being rested on the opponents weak offensive wing due to their importance on offense simply shouldn't be on All D teams. _________________ I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ.
Tony Allen is usually too busy guarding Kevin Durant to guard Russell Westbrook (what with having Mike Conley at pg and all as well...), but it's got nothing to do with what you can do. Players being rested on the opponents weak offensive wing due to their importance on offense simply shouldn't be on All D teams.
_________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
Other than a few big men like Dwight Howard, I don't think there are many players that influence the game enough on defense to where opposing coaches are going to plan around their defensive presence.
That was what made Ariza and Artest so valuable. They could take the other teams toughest assignment and Kobe wouldn't have to exert a lot of energy on that side. Kobe didnt get a tough defensive load anymore than was absolutely necessary.
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ.
Tony Allen is usually too busy guarding Kevin Durant to guard Russell Westbrook (what with having Mike Conley at pg and all as well...), but it's got nothing to do with what you can do. Players being rested on the opponents weak offensive wing due to their importance on offense simply shouldn't be on All D teams.
Why do you think the nba changed the voting system? because the previous one was broken to the point of absurdity. The straw that broke the camel's back was the DPOY basically needing the voting "fiddled with" to even make a defensive 2nd team, but the intern voting system they had was broken long before. _________________ I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ.
Tony Allen is usually too busy guarding Kevin Durant to guard Russell Westbrook (what with having Mike Conley at pg and all as well...), but it's got nothing to do with what you can do. Players being rested on the opponents weak offensive wing due to their importance on offense simply shouldn't be on All D teams.
Why do you think the nba changed the voting system? because the previous one was broken to the point of absurdity. The straw that broke the camel's back was the DPOY basically needing the voting "fiddled with" to even make a defensive 2nd team, but the intern voting system they had was broken long before.
Yeah, the NBA really cares about validity of it's awards and voting systems. That's why Steve Nash is sitting on as many MVP's as Kobe and Shaq combined. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
I don't care what an agent says, but I am annoyed at MYCHAL THOMPSON saying the same thing
Why?
The key part of the statement is "two-way" and it's undeniably true.
The last time Kobe played above-average defense on a regular basis, Klay Thompson was in third grade.
The most first team All D team selections in league history aside right?
Again with the popularity contests. And we haven't seen Kobe there recently.
Until last season it was voted on by NBA head coaches only. The ones who had to actually design game plans around the opposition defenders. Kobe was all D first team as recently as recently as 2011. All D second team 2012.
And the reason the coaches no longer vote on this? Because they were too busy designing game plans to be bothered with pondering over an awards ballot. You think Popovich wasted a second on this? It's been well known for years that Head Coaches kick those down to interns because they DGAF about it, especially when they can't vote for their own players. Kobe making First Team All D over Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer or Wesley Matthews in 2011 or Iggy in 2012 were pretty strong indications that whoever was voting on this wasn't thinking hard enough or didn't know any better.
None of those guys can guard Westbrook AND LBJ.
Tony Allen is usually too busy guarding Kevin Durant to guard Russell Westbrook (what with having Mike Conley at pg and all as well...), but it's got nothing to do with what you can do. Players being rested on the opponents weak offensive wing due to their importance on offense simply shouldn't be on All D teams.
Why do you think the nba changed the voting system? because the previous one was broken to the point of absurdity. The straw that broke the camel's back was the DPOY basically needing the voting "fiddled with" to even make a defensive 2nd team, but the intern voting system they had was broken long before.
Yeah, the NBA really cares about validity of it's awards and voting systems. That's why Steve Nash is sitting on as many MVP's as Kobe and Shaq combined.
There's also a reason Shaq and Kobe are sitting on 9 rings and Nash has 0. The stacked teams that cost them MVPs won them rings instead.
The reason Shaq doesn't have more mvps is Shaq's offseasons. _________________ I believe everything the media tells me except for anything for which I have direct personal knowledge, which they always get wrong
The reason Shaq doesn't have more mvps is Shaq's offseasons.
I'm the biggest critic of shaq becoming snaq but that is false. Shaq was deserving of more mvp awards. However the NBA MVP award is VERY dependent on politics.
The criteria for winning it changes to suit the mood of whichever media writer has an opinion.
Best player on the best team?
Best player over all?
If you took X guy off Y roster, how much worse would they be?
etc. etc.
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