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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 1:52 pm Post subject:
Well at least they got Lucas out of the picture. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Lucas made 3 bad prequels and deserves blame for that but these next 3 movies (and the countless spinoffs they're also making) are just as much of a cash grab. I'm sure Abrams will make a more competent movie, but there's still the problem of people chasing that feeling of being thrilled by the original Trilogy and that feeling isn't coming back. For my money, Star Wars was a wonderful thing that happened. It's been over for some time now and I intend to keep it that way.
But from what I gather this should be MUCH better than the prequel's. Bringing back the cast of the original trilogy, the use of more practical effects and dumping the CGI is a brilliant move imho.
As long as there is no Jar Jar.
Or whiny Anakin in a terribly forced love story.
Or 135 yr old arthritic emperor laying waste to Jedi Knights in mere seconds.
Or... _________________ "Dread it, run from it... destiny arrives all the same."
I hope it takes itself seriously. I wanna see this one be Nolan's Batman Begins to Schumacher's Batman and Robin. _________________ "There's only 2 dudes better than me, and I'm BOTH OF THEM."
As long as there is no Jar Jar.
Or whiny Anakin in a terribly forced love story.
Or 135 yr old arthritic emperor laying waste to Jedi Knights in mere seconds.
Or...
The fans relationship to this franchise reminds me of that couple you know that keeps breaking up and trying to make the thing work. "It'll be different this time!"
It will be strange to watch a Star Wars film without the signature 20th Century Fox/Lucasfilm music. _________________ -Avenue of the Champions- -RIP Dr Buss- #824
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject:
ocho wrote:
24 wrote:
Well at least they got Lucas out of the picture.
Lucas made 3 bad prequels and deserves blame for that but these next 3 movies (and the countless spinoffs they're also making) are just as much of a cash grab. I'm sure Abrams will make a more competent movie, but there's still the problem of people chasing that feeling of being thrilled by the original Trilogy and that feeling isn't coming back. For my money, Star Wars was a wonderful thing that happened. It's been over for some time now and I intend to keep it that way.
Lucas made 3 bad prequels and deserves blame for that but these next 3 movies (and the countless spinoffs they're also making) are just as much of a cash grab. I'm sure Abrams will make a more competent movie, but there's still the problem of people chasing that feeling of being thrilled by the original Trilogy and that feeling isn't coming back. For my money, Star Wars was a wonderful thing that happened. It's been over for some time now and I intend to keep it that way.
JJ Abrams will take George Lucas script and then reverse the order of the characters and call it a new plot.... Just like what he did with the Star Trek reboot.
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 6:15 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
ocho wrote:
24 wrote:
Well at least they got Lucas out of the picture.
Lucas made 3 bad prequels and deserves blame for that but these next 3 movies (and the countless spinoffs they're also making) are just as much of a cash grab. I'm sure Abrams will make a more competent movie, but there's still the problem of people chasing that feeling of being thrilled by the original Trilogy and that feeling isn't coming back. For my money, Star Wars was a wonderful thing that happened. It's been over for some time now and I intend to keep it that way.
JJ Abrams will take George Lucas script and then reverse the order of the characters and call it a new plot.... Just like what he did with the Star Trek reboot.
Luke Skywalker goes back in time after finding a Rambaldi artifact on a mysterious island after battling a big bat creature, crash-landing his X-Wing, and alters the past, creating an alternate future. Now everyone's different.
Luke, now played by Adam Driver, is a dark-haired hipster who instead of dreaming about getting off Tatooine, dreams of chubby-chasing. Leia (Gwen Christie) is now a blond 6'3" tomboy who chokes stormtroopers with her bare hands for fun until she realizes she can use the Force and then chokes them with her thoughts. Han Solo (Oscar Isaac), is no longer a smuggler, but is now a folk singer who replaces his Gollum-looking drummer (Andy Serkis) with Chewbacca, but now the Gollum-looking ex-drummer is out for blood. Lupita Nyong'o is former slave Obi-Wan Kenobi. Max Von Sydow now voices Darth Vader but now with an accent ala Abrams' treatment of Khan.
oohhh Abrams... I am kinda hoping this does not involve the main villain waiting 25 long years floating in space, waiting for some guy to pop out of thin air so said villain can resume his quest for vengeance... I mean... please... _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
I don't understand why they feel the need to get some "sci fi director" like Abrams. Who cares about directors who have experience making other movies with lasers in them, it's not about that, it's about understanding how to tell a good story and have it resonate with an audience. Abrams is a choice that is ultimately a cash grab but with only a veneer of caring a bit about increasing the quality over the prequels (as if a 5 year old couldn't do that.) Star Wars made too much money for its own good, now no one has interest in the story anymore, it's only about lightsabers and the Star Wars brand that Hollywood cares about. It's worth too much for it to ever land in the hands of someone who cared about the art of it.
It should have been given to writers and a director who know how to make good cinema and have the artistic integrity to learn what SW is about. You don't have to be some sci fi geek to understand what made Star Wars a great film experience. Was Stanley Kubrick a "sci fi director"? No, he was just a great filmmaker and he made the greatest science fiction movie of all time. Science fiction stories are just stories like any else, they're just typically set in space, with futuristic technology. These are just superficial attributes, the fundamentals that make a good story don't change in them.
I know Ocho thinks SW should have been left in the past, but I think the main story, as well as the Star Wars universe as a whole, could've been expanded well in the right hands, but now it will spin out of control as a mediocre excuse for lightsaber duels.
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oohhh Abrams... I am kinda hoping this does not involve the main villain waiting 25 long years floating in space, waiting for some guy to pop out of thin air so said villain can resume his quest for vengeance... I mean... please...
To be fair though, at least the direction he took Star Trek in is more suited for Star Wars. The problem with his Star Trek movies is that Star Trek isn't really an action adventure story, but more of a philosophical one.
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Just like what he did with the Star Trek reboot. 
