Will the Lakers be a good three point shooting team?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:38 am    Post subject: Will the Lakers be a good three point shooting team?

I recently read this blurb that the Lakers lost 4 of their top 5 three point shooters. That might not mean much since we're in transition from D'Antoni ball, but it got me thinking if we have enough three point shooting on the team as is.

Who we could expect to shoot threes?

1. Kobe - I don't expect him to shoot many threes. Okay three point shooter.
2. Nick - Very good three point shooter, but tends to be a subpar catch and shoot three point shooter.
3. Lin - good three point shooter, but again, it's not something that's his strength
4. Nash - probably the best three point shooter on the team, if he's healthy, and he won't be.
5. Xavier - not a good three pt shooter
6. Wes - bad shooter period
7. Clarkson - he can shoot from what we've seen early on, but will be even see the court?

So what do you think? Maybe this is a team that could benefit from shooting threes less to begin with....but does it have enough to get by?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:51 am    Post subject:

Nick and Nash are probably the only good 3 point shooters. Not sure if this team overall will be if Nash isn't able to play much.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:55 am    Post subject:

I think they will be a middle of the road 3 point shooting team. Good enough to be demand that opposing teams respect open players but it will not be a primary scoring option like some teams in the NBA.

This team will score from the post and at the basket off drives.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:05 am    Post subject:

Lin is very effective in catch and shoot situations. Last season he shot 38% from three-point range in spot-up play types.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject:

What about Ryan Kelly? He can shoot threes...
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:10 am    Post subject:

They'll have to win grinding out games, limiting possessions, and working the 24 SC through the post. Basically they'll be going from one extreme to the other.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:11 am    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
What about Ryan Kelly? He can shoot threes...


actually his percentage last year wasn't very good.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:12 am    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
What about Ryan Kelly? He can shoot threes...


Good point. I was looking at the guards and swingmen mainly. I don't know how much use Byron has for a stretch 4 though.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Lakerpark wrote:
What about Ryan Kelly? He can shoot threes...


actually his percentage last year wasn't very good.


True, and I just didn't get the feeling that when he was left open he was "Automatic".

But I would expect that he would improve in his second year...once the freshman jitters goes away...and hopefully he has been practicing.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:15 am    Post subject:

Finnisher wrote:
Lin is very effective in catch and shoot situations. Last season he shot 38% from three-point range in spot-up play types.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:16 am    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Lakerpark wrote:
What about Ryan Kelly? He can shoot threes...


actually his percentage last year wasn't very good.


True, and I just didn't get the feeling that when he was left open he was "Automatic".

But I would expect that he would improve in his second year...once the freshman jitters goes away...and hopefully he has been practicing.


different system and much less ball movement might hurt him.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:17 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
They'll have to win grinding out games, limiting possessions, and working the 24 SC through the post. Basically they'll be going from one extreme to the other.


Yeah, I see them reverting to the way things were under Brown....at least in terms of tempo. But even slow ball benefits from good three point shooting or at least the threat of it to space the floor properly.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:20 am    Post subject:

kray28_ wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
They'll have to win grinding out games, limiting possessions, and working the 24 SC through the post. Basically they'll be going from one extreme to the other.


Yeah, I see them reverting to the way things were under Brown....at least in terms of tempo. But even slow ball benefits from good three point shooting or at least the threat of it to space the floor properly.


not really. shooting rhythm is put through a meat grinder.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:24 am    Post subject:

I think this team will run more than they did under brown. The have players like Nash, Lin and clarkson who thrive in transition. It wouldn't be smart to take that part of their games away from them. That has been the mistake with Nash since he's been a laker. They have basically turned him into a half court spot up shooter since he's been here. I think they should be able to get early offense if they see the opportunity.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject:

greenfrog wrote:
Finnisher wrote:
Lin is very effective in catch and shoot situations. Last season he shot 38% from three-point range in spot-up play types.


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http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2014/9/16/6153745/jeremy-lin-la-lakers-season-preview
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject:

Outside the PnR, one of our bread and butter plays will probably be Kobe in the post. In order to prevent the defense from just collapsing on him in the paint, you have to keep them honest with credible perimeter threats.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:33 am    Post subject:

The only historically knock down 3 point shooter is Nash. Young is second best and the others are not natural knock down shooters. I don't think Scott's most recent team (Cavs) were a 3 point heavy team either.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:41 am    Post subject:

If they take them when open, in rhythm and within the team's offensive concepts ... I don't see why not.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject:

Steve Nash, when he's healthy (cough, cough), is the best three point shooter on the team.
Maybe we could play him off the ball sometime and have him to launch a few ala Ray Allen (all while being out of harms way).
Lin is pretty effective also.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject:

I think that this Lakers team could rank near the middle, but probably in the lower third among league teams in the regular season, in terms of team total three point conversion rate.

Meeks is gone. Nash seems unlikely to play much. Kobe has become only a very average 3pt shooter (below .350 for five consecutive seasons). If Kobe plays a lot, I don't expect that rate to improve.

Byron Scott's offenses in the past have not been imaginative enough to produce the type of player movement, ball movement, and open looks that the best three point shooting teams thrive upon.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 1:21 pm    Post subject:

No, Magic Johnson will not allow them to shoot three pointers and he'll tell Byron that.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:55 pm    Post subject:

The signing of Wayne Ellington adds another very good three point shooter to the team.
He shot 42% from behind the arc last season and he is a 39% career 3 point shooter.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject:

If Lin, Young, and Johnson are getting open looks, they should all be in the high 30's for 3p%. They've all shown they get hit at those rates on catch and shoots, so it depends on how well we execute on offense. I mention those guys because those 3 will be getting the bulk of the off the ball catch and shoot minutes.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject:

pio2u wrote:
The signing of Wayne Ellington adds another very good three point shooter to the team.
He shot 42% from behind the arc last season and he is a 39% career 3 point shooter.


Yeah, this move adds some potential.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2014 8:12 am    Post subject:

3-pt shooting is not something this team has a green light on outside of Kobe. If someone does something wrong like shoot an errant 3 outside of the called play, Scott will shut him down so fast.... again except for kobe.

Because of the discipline, they should be a pretty efficient 3-pt shooting team. Also, I expect see Kobe in the post more this year since the bigs Boozer (midrange) Davis, Hill (garbage) don't have the skills. Randle when he get weened in up will be that option.
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