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| LATown wrote: | | C M B wrote: | | allyoop wrote: | | bws94 wrote: | | Mini Mamba wrote: | I think Lin should be one of the few players brought back from this current team(along with Ellington and Davis) next season but strictly as the backup PG.
He has shown that with the right players around him he can be successful and very effective.
Surrounding him with shooters like Ellington, Young, and Kelly would be ideal and space the floor allowing him to run the pick and roll with Davis who he has shown great chemistry with. |
I agree but in the Ginobili minutes role. That would make him a core player coming off the bench that finishes games. |
With Manu nearing the end of his career, it actually makes sense for him to play for San Antonio. Jeremy can play the same role as Manu. Parker would still be the starting point guard and that team emphasizes team ball. |
Every team emphasizes "team ball". "Team ball", also known as what every team in the league plays, only gets you so far. Championships are won by talent, not rosters filled with guys who tickle each other's bollocks and send each other inspirational "you can do it!" texts every night. This team lacks sufficient talent to compete in any objective way.
Furthermore, the fantasies of how Jeremy would thrive on a "team-ball" team are terribly embarrassing. He lacks the talent to get the minutes you'd like to see him get, even on this talent-forsaken team. You should stop torturing yourself with daydreams of Tony Parker and Tim Duncan hoisting Jeremy atop their shoulders drenched in confetti and champagne. It won't happen. It's not because he's been oppressed...not by his coach, not by Kobe--a team player who lead his team to a triple championship and a double championship.
Jeremy Lin simply isn't that good. Oh and happy new year. |
i agree with you, that is why lakers sucks after shaq left! |
All they did was win 2 more titles, and reached the Finals 3 times in a row.... |
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I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
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| lin's been taking care of the ball in recent games. |
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fafan
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| nikeykid wrote: | | lin's been taking care of the ball in recent games. |
Yes, 0 TOs in 2 games, only 2 TOs in 4 games! 
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| can't wait to see more clarkson and lin on the floor at the same time. |
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| fafan wrote: | | nikeykid wrote: | | lin's been taking care of the ball in recent games. |
Yes, 0 TOs in 2 games, only 2 TOs in 4 games! |
5 games,  0 TOs against portland. |
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| TheSmoket wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | nikeykid wrote: | | lin's been taking care of the ball in recent games. |
Yes, 0 TOs in 2 games, only 2 TOs in 4 games! |
5 games, 0 TOs against portland. |
Great!!! 
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
Curious why you brought up size as an issue. Lin is 6'3", 200+lbs, giving him size advantage over a lot of PGs in the league... |
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| Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
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| bws94 wrote: | | Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
Maybe he has been working with Nash too? |
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| Mini Mamba wrote: | | bws94 wrote: | | Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
Maybe he has been working with Nash too? |
Maybe working with head of snake.
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| fafan wrote: | | I predict Lin will have a better game tonight. Maybe 15-5. |
14-6, so close! 
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| bws94 wrote: | | Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
Or maybe the team is playing with better spacing? |
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The change of the big men combo for Lin:
Lin - Hill Boozer
Lin - Sacre Boozer
Lin - ED Boozer
AFTER THE ASB:
Lin - ED Hill
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I still love you Boozer I promise... 
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| philnyc wrote: | | bws94 wrote: | | Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
Or maybe the team is playing with better spacing? |
see my post above... |
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| fafan wrote: | | TheSmoket wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | nikeykid wrote: | | lin's been taking care of the ball in recent games. |
Yes, 0 TOs in 2 games, only 2 TOs in 4 games! |
5 games, 0 TOs against portland. |
Great!!! |
It's not like he was playing well against Portland. |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
He deserved that contract. He made next to nothing for the Knicks and made them a ton of money. If he starts at PG then 8 mil for a non-RC contract is on the lower end of the scale. People whine about how much he makes this season and conveniently forgets that he only made 5M last two season. And he is a much better all around player than Nick young.
Lin doesn't need to shoot a high percentage. He just needs to be aggressive and get to the line. He shot 4-10 and scored14 points. That's 1.4 pps. If he signs for a reasonable amount and then proves it then he'd be underpaid.
Lin is one of those players who isn't on the upper scale of his position but he is good enough that you can invest in other areas first. That's why all the talk of Rondo and drafting PG s is funny since the biggest issue is the hole in the middle of the defense and offense I.e. a legitimate big defender and post player. |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
He deserved that contract. He made next to nothing for the Knicks and made them a ton of money. If he starts at PG then 8 mil for a non-RC contract is on the lower end of the scale. People whine about how much he makes this season and conveniently forgets that he only made 5M last two season. And he is a much better all around player than Nick young.
Lin doesn't need to shoot a high percentage. He just needs to be aggressive and get to the line. He shot 4-10 and scored14 points. That's 1.4 pps. If he signs for a reasonable amount and then proves it then he'd be underpaid.
Lin is one of those players who isn't on the upper scale of his position but he is good enough that you can invest in other areas first. That's why all the talk of Rondo and drafting PG s is funny since the biggest issue is the hole in the middle of the defense and offense I.e. a legitimate big defender and post player. |
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Sentient Meat
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| philnyc wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
Curious why you brought up size as an issue. Lin is 6'3", 200+lbs, giving him size advantage over a lot of PGs in the league... |
I'm aware he's a decent size... I was addressing the incorrect perception that the general public has about Asian athletes in general. |
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| Lorenzomax wrote: | The change of the big men combo for Lin:
Lin - Hill Boozer
Lin - Sacre Boozer
Lin - ED Boozer
AFTER THE ASB:
Lin - ED Hill
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I still love you Boozer I promise... |
Lin is a team player... Linsanity needs the right players to surround him... unfortunately Boozer might not one of them... |
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| philnyc wrote: | | bws94 wrote: | | Lin's changed something after ASB. He's now playing a smarter game, letting it come to him. He doesn't dribble into traffic much. He makes far fewer risky passes, he seems to have a plan when he's out there. His TOs are way down he gambles less on defense, everything seems sharper. Maybe he just was mentally tired. |
Or maybe the team is playing with better spacing? |
Or maybe it's February? |
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| tonman wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
He deserved that contract. He made next to nothing for the Knicks and made them a ton of money. If he starts at PG then 8 mil for a non-RC contract is on the lower end of the scale. People whine about how much he makes this season and conveniently forgets that he only made 5M last two season. And he is a much better all around player than Nick young.
Lin doesn't need to shoot a high percentage. He just needs to be aggressive and get to the line. He shot 4-10 and scored14 points. That's 1.4 pps. If he signs for a reasonable amount and then proves it then he'd be underpaid.
Lin is one of those players who isn't on the upper scale of his position but he is good enough that you can invest in other areas first. That's why all the talk of Rondo and drafting PG s is funny since the biggest issue is the hole in the middle of the defense and offense I.e. a legitimate big defender and post player. |
In terms of money and what he brings to the franchise in ancillary revenue... jersey sales, foreign tv contracts, season tickets... I'm sure he more than made up for the contract. However, I feel it made him an easy target, and as a fan... I just wished he had a couple more solid seasons under his belt before he got saddled with the weight of an all star's salary.
I don't want Rondo... nor do I even want Westbrook on our team... Both are extremely talented but neither seem like great team players to rebuild a franchise around. I also agree with you that we have bigger holes at center or small forward that I would address first, especially now that Clarkson seems to be quickly developing. However, as much as I want Lin to succeed... at this point I can only see him as our sixth man unless he has a long run of 15pt/8 ast games to prove otherwise. |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | philnyc wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
Curious why you brought up size as an issue. Lin is 6'3", 200+lbs, giving him size advantage over a lot of PGs in the league... |
I'm aware he's a decent size... I was addressing the incorrect perception that the general public has about Asian athletes in general. |
Word! Moreover, I also don't like all those incorrect perceptions that many Asians are good in math, score well on their SATs, are very knowledgeable in all things IT related, become doctors, engineers, etc.
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | I get why certain long time fans get frustrated with Jeremy Lin supporters... I wouldn't want an online community which I spent years supporting suddenly infiltrated by biased or ignorant fans that couldn't care less about the team I loved, posting solely for the benefit of one player.
However, I also think that it is important to cut some slack to a fan base that suffers from a form of prejudice that automatically assumes they are physically inferior in the same way that other groups might be wrongly assumed to be mentally inferior. Even though the far eastern countries regularly excel in the Olympics... for some reason it is hard for the average American fan to imagine an Asian athlete succeeding at basketball or American football. Until Ichiro broke the barrier for baseball position players, it was thought that the Japanese were incapable of playing at the major league level... that they played in inferior conditions that made it impossible to place them on a par with American players.
I get that size is an important component in both football and basketball.
However, in certain regions of China and Korea... it is fairly common to find people over six feet... so considering the fact that Asian gymnasts excel in skills such as leaping and hand eye coordination... it is inevitable that over time and as the international appeal of basketball grows that Asia like Europe before them, will eventually produce some decent basketball players.
So far Lin looks to me like he will become a decent sixth man. It's ironic because he's often praised for his intelligence but for someone like myself that grew up worshiping Magic Johnson, I find that Lin's mental errors are what is most unforgivable about his play. He does make some spectacular passes but then he drives out of control or throws the ball away and he doesn't have the FG percentage to justify his turnover ratio like the formerly great Steve Nash.
I guess all I'm saying is for people to judge Lin with the same measure they'd use to analyze a player with similar stats such as Nick Young. When I'm reading message boards or on Twitter, I rarely hear people questioning whether Nick Young belongs in the league even though he's already past his prime and has a worse shooting percentage than Lin.
With Lin I mostly see misguided hero worship or veiled racist digs.
He didn't deserve that contract, but he deserves a chance to play... hopefully he'll be signed for a more reasonable amount and get a chance to prove that next year. |
The race card? Again? Kill me.
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