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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:58 am    Post subject: Jesus Likes Cavs

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Earlier reports of Ray Allen signing with Cavaliers are true. Done deal. #NBA
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:59 am    Post subject:

Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:07 am    Post subject:

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Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:23 am    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


He's loyal to LeBron's nads.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:49 am    Post subject:

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Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.


Looks like he is loyal to himself and made the best decision for himself again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:11 am    Post subject:

yeah. Ray Allen is just a follower/ring chaser. One of the best shooters of all time. But doesn't have much of my respect.

I'm sure he won't lose much sleep over that but that's the way I see it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:14 pm    Post subject:

lollll what a puss
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:52 pm    Post subject:

Great another reason for me to root against the Cavs.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:03 pm    Post subject:

I'd root against that (bleep) if he was on the Lakers. It's much easier to root against him when he's in Cleveland.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:46 pm    Post subject:

Those two ugly chumps deserve each other.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 5:47 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject:

Looks like a great team on paper but I think Miller/Allen's age and Kyrie's injury prone-ness catches up with them. I'll be rooting against them, that's for sure.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:10 pm    Post subject:

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activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:33 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,


Nice stretch there
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:44 pm    Post subject:

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activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,


Nice stretch there


Thanks! I enjoyed it too!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:11 pm    Post subject:

All aboard the Bandwagon.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:34 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,



I agree with you although I get what they are saying its nice to see a player stay with a team.

Very few players stay with the same team from beginning to end and its great to appreciate something so rare.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:00 pm    Post subject:

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activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,



I agree with you although I get what they are saying its nice to see a player stay with a team.

Very few players stay with the same team from beginning to end and its great to appreciate something so rare.


Personally, I think it's mostly luck

It only happens nowadays when a great player is lucky enough to drafted onto an already-strong team so he wins a ring very early in his career, bonding him to the team and erasing his need to seek out a ring elsewhere.

And then throughout his career things break just right so he sticks around.

When I was younger, I thought it was kind of cool. Now I am pretty indifferent to it. For example, I don't think Hakeem's career was lessened by his last unfortunate year in Canada.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:09 am    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
activeverb wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,



I agree with you although I get what they are saying its nice to see a player stay with a team.

Very few players stay with the same team from beginning to end and its great to appreciate something so rare.


Personally, I think it's mostly luck

It only happens nowadays when a great player is lucky enough to drafted onto an already-strong team so he wins a ring very early in his career, bonding him to the team and erasing his need to seek out a ring elsewhere.

And then throughout his career things break just right so he sticks around.

When I was younger, I thought it was kind of cool. Now I am pretty indifferent to it. For example, I don't think Hakeem's career was lessened by his last unfortunate year in Canada.


It was lessened trust me, lessened so much most people have erased it from their memory, it was sad to watch.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:39 am    Post subject:

Sniper008 wrote:
activeverb wrote:
Basketball Fan wrote:
activeverb wrote:
USCandLakers wrote:
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CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.



I don't get that either.

What is exactly is a "team"? Is it your teammates? If so, does that mean your loyalty ends when teammates are traded?

Is it the team owner? If so, does your loyalty end if he sells the team?

Is it the jersey? Does that mean your loyalty ends if the laundry ruins all the jerseys?

Frankly, I don't think there is loyalty in sports. There is just mutual self interest. I don't think Duncan and Kobe are any more "loyal" than other guys who switched teams -- they were simply in situations where it didn't make sense for them to leave.

Loyalty, to me, is simply a conceit of fans who want to think the players care about them,



I agree with you although I get what they are saying its nice to see a player stay with a team.

Very few players stay with the same team from beginning to end and its great to appreciate something so rare.


Personally, I think it's mostly luck

It only happens nowadays when a great player is lucky enough to drafted onto an already-strong team so he wins a ring very early in his career, bonding him to the team and erasing his need to seek out a ring elsewhere.

And then throughout his career things break just right so he sticks around.

When I was younger, I thought it was kind of cool. Now I am pretty indifferent to it. For example, I don't think Hakeem's career was lessened by his last unfortunate year in Canada.


It was lessened trust me, lessened so much most people have erased it from their memory, it was sad to watch.


I disagree with you. I don't think Hakeem is looked at any differently by people because of his one year in Toronto. people haven't erased it from their memory because it was painful. They don't remember because, frankly, people just don't remember the trivial details of players careers.virtually no one remembers, or cares, that wilt chamberlains career ended because he left the Lakers to go play in the ABA and then the Lakers sued him to prevent him from playing. virtually no one remembers, or rates, magic because of his aborted come back.lots of players have ended their career like that, but people only remember or care about the high points
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 3:16 pm    Post subject:

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I'd root against that (bleep) if he was on the Lakers. It's much easier to root against him when he's in Cleveland.


ditto
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:26 pm    Post subject:

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CandyCanes wrote:
Ray Allen. Zero loyalty.



Who, in your mind, is he supposed to be loyal to?


A team?

I suppose in this LeBron-team-jumping-era, there is no loyalty to teams anymore. Shame. Guys like Kobe and Duncan are rare.


Luckily for the Laker franchise, guys like Kareem and Shaq were not loyal to their original teams in the "non-team-jumping-era".
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 4:35 pm    Post subject:

I don't think Kareem is a good example wasn't he traded to the Lakers?

Shaq however did choose to go to L.A.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:42 pm    Post subject:

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I don't think Kareem is a good example wasn't he traded to the Lakers?

Shaq however did choose to go to L.A.


Kareem basically chose where he was going to get traded to. He pulled a Howard before Howard, as far as making a select list of places he would go.
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