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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:11 am Post subject: Aaron Hernandez Guilty of First Degree Murder
I know there was an Aaron Hernandez thread at one point, but it is buried and since the search function here in minimally helpful I started a new thread - so shoot me - (barump-ump, I'll be here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress)
They got him for First Degree Murder. I knew he'd get convicted of some charge, but I didn't think he'd get first degree since there was nor overwhelming evidence to say that he for sure was the shooter. That's not to say I don't think the verdict was well deserved. It was.
Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:16 am Post subject: Re: Aaron Hernandez Guilty of First Degree Murder
DaMuleRules wrote:
I know there was an Aaron Hernandez thread at one point, but it is buried and since the search function here in minimally helpful I started a new thread - so shoot me - (barump-ump, I'll be here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress)
They got him for First Degree Murder. I knew he'd get convicted of some charge, but I didn't think he'd get first degree since there was nor overwhelming evidence to say that he for sure was the shooter. That's not to say I don't think the verdict was well deserved. It was.
The evidence that he planned and helped execute the plot, and that he was there is enough in the state of Mass to convict on a 1st degree murder charge. The prosecution easily proved those.
Heard the testimony of the mother of the victim. It was absolutely heart-wrenching. Made me want to cry. Made me think of my brother who was murdered execution style when he was 18 and I was 11. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
Jayson Williams was an idiot with a gun and too much ETOH on board. Aaron Hernandez, conspired, planned and then carried out an execution. Big difference. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
Jayson Williams was an idiot with a gun and too much ETOH on board. Aaron Hernandez, conspired, planned and then carried out an execution. Big difference.
Yup. Not sure how anyone could even compare the two.
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
The difference is intent. Jayson Williams was a jackass who killed a man because of his recklessness with guns. Aaron Hernandez planned this, and there is debate whether he was the shooter in other incidents as well. I believe he has an indictment against him in a double homicide as well.
Caps off a pretty meteoric fall from grace. Some people never realise how lucky they are in life, he had what so many would dream of, now it's all gone because he killed his friend over a disagreement. _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
The difference is intent. Jayson Williams was a jackass who killed a man because of his recklessness with guns.
Jayson had a MTV Cribs episode that they never replayed after his murder. On the episode, he had the camera crew go outside to look at his shotguns and shooting range and he had a shotgun that he was yanking on and off of his shoulder with his finger in the trigger ring. He was as casual with a shotgun as he would've been with a BB rifle. From the description of the murder, that's sort of what took place. He was messing with the guy like he was gonna shoot him and he flipped the gun or otherwise made a sudden movement with his finger on the trigger and it went off. There were other stupid stories told by various athletes that visited his home. Dwayne Schintzius told the story about him killing his own Rottweiler with a shotgun because Dwayne was able to pick it up off the porch without it biting him. He said he was stunned at what Jayson did. Wayne Chrebet and Jason Seahorn were at his home and Seahorn said that Chrebet bent over to pick something up and Jayson shot a 50 caliber bullet within feet over his head. Seahorn actually (smartly) went inside after that and Jayson laughed at it. The guy was an effin loon. Him killing someone was bound to happen and he frankly deserved more than he got because of that fact. He went thru some sh where he grew up and wasn't a stranger to violence. At St. John's he went at a fan with a folding chair. He got arrested with Barkley as a rookie for a bar fight where he hit a patron on the skull with a beer mug. One of his first stupid decisions as a pro was shooting a gun in a stadium parking lot. He was congenial, well-spoken, and handsome and cut a nice figure in public (he was on NBC's pregame show), but he had that alternate side like Hernandez does.
Beyond that, he was the athlete with the nicest estate I've ever seen, bar none. Only Jordan's might have rivaled Jayson's, and I've only seen an aerial of Mike's estate (more like a private city). Jayson had every toy you could imagine including a big rig a la Malone. Jersey didn't look so bad all of a sudden if his dollar stretched as far as it appeared to. He had a corner of the state all to his own, it was a mindnumbing place. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Caps off a pretty meteoric fall from grace. Some people never realise how lucky they are in life, he had what so many would dream of, now it's all gone because he killed his friend over a disagreement.
Everything he said ^ and just a very, very sad day for all involved ...
Caps off a pretty meteoric fall from grace. Some people never realise how lucky they are in life, he had what so many would dream of, now it's all gone because he killed his friend over a disagreement.
Everything he said ^ and just a very, very sad day for all involved ...
I really don't understand why he still seemed so intent on living some foolish street dream lifestyle. When you sign a pro-ball deal for 40m, you don't need this gangster (bleep) anymore, you made it out, you got something to lose now, something to protect, something that's gonna set your family up for generations to come.
It's crazy how someone can throw away all that money, the chance to play pro football, the chance to watch his family grow and live their lives, all over some foolishness, WHY?
Even crazier, that's your friend you did it to, your boy! Friends argue, they disagree, but that's your family at the end of the day, and you're gonna shoot them over some nonsense?
Makes me sad that the victim's mama was in court, and the tragic sadness of it all is that she lost no matter what the verdict was. Even with the guilty verdict, this woman lost her son from this, I just hope she can find a small measure of peace now this is over. _________________ Lakers, Chargers, Dodgers, Arsenal FC.
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
The difference is intent. Jayson Williams was a jackass who killed a man because of his recklessness with guns.
Jayson had a MTV Cribs episode that they never replayed after his murder. On the episode, he had the camera crew go outside to look at his shotguns and shooting range and he had a shotgun that he was yanking on and off of his shoulder with his finger in the trigger ring. He was as casual with a shotgun as he would've been with a BB rifle. From the description of the murder, that's sort of what took place. He was messing with the guy like he was gonna shoot him and he flipped the gun or otherwise made a sudden movement with his finger on the trigger and it went off. There were other stupid stories told by various athletes that visited his home. Dwayne Schintzius told the story about him killing his own Rottweiler with a shotgun because Dwayne was able to pick it up off the porch without it biting him. He said he was stunned at what Jayson did. Wayne Chrebet and Jason Seahorn were at his home and Seahorn said that Chrebet bent over to pick something up and Jayson shot a 50 caliber bullet within feet over his head. Seahorn actually (smartly) went inside after that and Jayson laughed at it. The guy was an effin loon. Him killing someone was bound to happen and he frankly deserved more than he got because of that fact. He went thru some sh where he grew up and wasn't a stranger to violence. At St. John's he went at a fan with a folding chair. He got arrested with Barkley as a rookie for a bar fight where he hit a patron on the skull with a beer mug. One of his first stupid decisions as a pro was shooting a gun in a stadium parking lot. He was congenial, well-spoken, and handsome and cut a nice figure in public (he was on NBC's pregame show), but he had that alternate side like Hernandez does.
Beyond that, he was the athlete with the nicest estate I've ever seen, bar none. Only Jordan's might have rivaled Jayson's, and I've only seen an aerial of Mike's estate (more like a private city). Jayson had every toy you could imagine including a big rig a la Malone. Jersey didn't look so bad all of a sudden if his dollar stretched as far as it appeared to. He had a corner of the state all to his own, it was a mindnumbing place.
I saw that episode of MTV cribs at the time....I remembering watching it and saw how careless he was with handling a gun and just shooting away on his property with not a care in the world. He was his own worst enemy.
I saw the video of the verdict. Literally no reaction from him.
Dude is a straight up sociopath. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
Caps off a pretty meteoric fall from grace. Some people never realise how lucky they are in life, he had what so many would dream of, now it's all gone because he killed his friend over a disagreement.
Everything he said ^ and just a very, very sad day for all involved ...
I really don't understand why he still seemed so intent on living some foolish street dream lifestyle. When you sign a pro-ball deal for 40m, you don't need this gangster (bleep) anymore, you made it out, you got something to lose now, something to protect, something that's gonna set your family up for generations to come.
It's crazy how someone can throw away all that money, the chance to play pro football, the chance to watch his family grow and live their lives, all over some foolishness, WHY?
Even crazier, that's your friend you did it to, your boy! Friends argue, they disagree, but that's your family at the end of the day, and you're gonna shoot them over some nonsense?
Makes me sad that the victim's mama was in court, and the tragic sadness of it all is that she lost no matter what the verdict was. Even with the guilty verdict, this woman lost her son from this, I just hope she can find a small measure of peace now this is over.
_________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays
Caps off a pretty meteoric fall from grace. Some people never realise how lucky they are in life, he had what so many would dream of, now it's all gone because he killed his friend over a disagreement.
Everything he said ^ and just a very, very sad day for all involved ...
I really don't understand why he still seemed so intent on living some foolish street dream lifestyle. When you sign a pro-ball deal for 40m, you don't need this gangster (bleep) anymore, you made it out, you got something to lose now, something to protect, something that's gonna set your family up for generations to come.
It's crazy how someone can throw away all that money, the chance to play pro football, the chance to watch his family grow and live their lives, all over some foolishness, WHY?
Even crazier, that's your friend you did it to, your boy! Friends argue, they disagree, but that's your family at the end of the day, and you're gonna shoot them over some nonsense?
Makes me sad that the victim's mama was in court, and the tragic sadness of it all is that she lost no matter what the verdict was. Even with the guilty verdict, this woman lost her son from this, I just hope she can find a small measure of peace now this is over.
He won't be the first nor the last pro athlete to throw away their fame and money for a lengthy prison sentence...
AHern was a great guy to go clubbing with 90% of the time.
The other 10% of the time he shoots people, including his buddies. No thanks, I think I will pick up my own tab Aaron! _________________ Love, Laker Lanny
Urban Meyer probably went into overdrive to sweep this one under the rug.
What's interesting is that none of these events were allowed to be introduced as evidence, which made the case that much more difficult for the prosecution as they had no motive and no murder weapon. I believe that the judge knew that an appeal by a powerful legal team was inevitable and thus she did her best to reduce the strength of any possible appeal by acquiescing to defense demands and objections over the admissibility of evidence.
As an aside, Hernandez is currently incarcerated at MCI Cedar Junction (aka Walpole) which is a maximum security prison. It is only a few minutes away from Gillette Stadium.
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Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2015 8:14 am Post subject:
non-player zealot wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
leor_77 wrote:
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
The difference is intent. Jayson Williams was a jackass who killed a man because of his recklessness with guns.
Jayson had a MTV Cribs episode that they never replayed after his murder. On the episode, he had the camera crew go outside to look at his shotguns and shooting range and he had a shotgun that he was yanking on and off of his shoulder with his finger in the trigger ring. He was as casual with a shotgun as he would've been with a BB rifle. From the description of the murder, that's sort of what took place. He was messing with the guy like he was gonna shoot him and he flipped the gun or otherwise made a sudden movement with his finger on the trigger and it went off. There were other stupid stories told by various athletes that visited his home. Dwayne Schintzius told the story about him killing his own Rottweiler with a shotgun because Dwayne was able to pick it up off the porch without it biting him. He said he was stunned at what Jayson did. Wayne Chrebet and Jason Seahorn were at his home and Seahorn said that Chrebet bent over to pick something up and Jayson shot a 50 caliber bullet within feet over his head. Seahorn actually (smartly) went inside after that and Jayson laughed at it. The guy was an effin loon. Him killing someone was bound to happen and he frankly deserved more than he got because of that fact. He went thru some sh where he grew up and wasn't a stranger to violence. At St. John's he went at a fan with a folding chair. He got arrested with Barkley as a rookie for a bar fight where he hit a patron on the skull with a beer mug. One of his first stupid decisions as a pro was shooting a gun in a stadium parking lot. He was congenial, well-spoken, and handsome and cut a nice figure in public (he was on NBC's pregame show), but he had that alternate side like Hernandez does.
Beyond that, he was the athlete with the nicest estate I've ever seen, bar none. Only Jordan's might have rivaled Jayson's, and I've only seen an aerial of Mike's estate (more like a private city). Jayson had every toy you could imagine including a big rig a la Malone. Jersey didn't look so bad all of a sudden if his dollar stretched as far as it appeared to. He had a corner of the state all to his own, it was a mindnumbing place.
How did Jayson Williams get so much money? I don't recall him as being a star. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Didn't Jayson Williams get like 5 years? Not saying Hernandez didn't deserve it (especially if he killed other people), but it's a weird world.
The difference is intent. Jayson Williams was a jackass who killed a man because of his recklessness with guns.
Jayson had a MTV Cribs episode that they never replayed after his murder. On the episode, he had the camera crew go outside to look at his shotguns and shooting range and he had a shotgun that he was yanking on and off of his shoulder with his finger in the trigger ring. He was as casual with a shotgun as he would've been with a BB rifle. From the description of the murder, that's sort of what took place. He was messing with the guy like he was gonna shoot him and he flipped the gun or otherwise made a sudden movement with his finger on the trigger and it went off. There were other stupid stories told by various athletes that visited his home. Dwayne Schintzius told the story about him killing his own Rottweiler with a shotgun because Dwayne was able to pick it up off the porch without it biting him. He said he was stunned at what Jayson did. Wayne Chrebet and Jason Seahorn were at his home and Seahorn said that Chrebet bent over to pick something up and Jayson shot a 50 caliber bullet within feet over his head. Seahorn actually (smartly) went inside after that and Jayson laughed at it. The guy was an effin loon. Him killing someone was bound to happen and he frankly deserved more than he got because of that fact. He went thru some sh where he grew up and wasn't a stranger to violence. At St. John's he went at a fan with a folding chair. He got arrested with Barkley as a rookie for a bar fight where he hit a patron on the skull with a beer mug. One of his first stupid decisions as a pro was shooting a gun in a stadium parking lot. He was congenial, well-spoken, and handsome and cut a nice figure in public (he was on NBC's pregame show), but he had that alternate side like Hernandez does.
Beyond that, he was the athlete with the nicest estate I've ever seen, bar none. Only Jordan's might have rivaled Jayson's, and I've only seen an aerial of Mike's estate (more like a private city). Jayson had every toy you could imagine including a big rig a la Malone. Jersey didn't look so bad all of a sudden if his dollar stretched as far as it appeared to. He had a corner of the state all to his own, it was a mindnumbing place.
How did Jayson Williams get so much money? I don't recall him as being a star.
Dude was a BEAST! Until Starbury broke his leg. _________________ #11/08/16 America became GREAT again
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