Randle/Davis > Boozer/Hill

jonnybravo · Retired Number Joined: 21 Sep 2007 Posts: 30679

The first pair = REAL Effort, Energy and consumes space in the paint. Worthy used to talk about "fake hustle". That's not Randle.

Second pair = Empty stats, soft and horrific defense. Did I mention soft? Real easy to get boards when you lose sight of your man, don't rotate just to go for the ball, etc, etc. This isn't based off this game either. This is off both their respective careers.

To the guy that said Boozer is better than Pau defensively. Wat in the holy hell name of God...Pau standing still with his hands up is better defense than him.

Not that any of this matters. They'll probably be out with a hang nail a week into the season anyhow.

yinoma2001 · Retired Number Joined: 19 Jun 2010 Posts: 119487

And people thought boozer was average or above average on defense?
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j_anthony611 · Sixth Man Joined: 08 Mar 2014 Posts: 41

agreed. a starting line-up of lin, kobe, johnson, randle, and davis could do some damage. hopefully coach scott inserts davis and randle into the starting line-up sooner rather than later

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j_anthony611 · Sixth Man Joined: 08 Mar 2014 Posts: 41

boozer is putrid aha. he'd be decent off the bench though. that starting line-up i mentioned and bench you described i think could make the playoffs

j_anthony611 · Sixth Man Joined: 08 Mar 2014 Posts: 41

i've also seen this article describing how randle and davis should mesh well. i thought it was a real interesting read where davis is likened to randle's old teammate cauley-stein

http://lakeshowlife.com/2014/07/24/ed-davis-julius-randles-complement/

KeepItRealOrElse · Retired Number Joined: 11 Oct 2012 Posts: 32767

Davis is our best big. and these are pretty much my first games watching him

greenfrog · Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject:

agreed that boozer is better than pau defensively. the problem on defense is hill and the backcourt.

PICKnPOP · Star Player Joined: 14 Jul 2014 Posts: 5377

Randle has a long way to go before he starts. I agree that Davis should start though because hill is the perfect big off the bench. He can play 4/5 and play balls out for 20 mins a night almost giving you a double double.

Nash
Kobe
Wesley
Boozer
Davis

Lin/price/clarkson
Henry/ Clarkson/ Ellington
Young/ Ellington
Randle/Kelly
Hill/sacre

I believe this is the final roster and should end up being the rotation. We would have arguably the best bench in the nba

Lakersneuron · Star Player Joined: 21 Nov 2008 Posts: 4450

I have no qualms with anything you guys are posting here. Boozer has a good offensive game and can spread the floor, but defensively he is a liability. Hill is most effective around the 15-20 minute range.

If anything, take Hill out of the starting lineup. Insert Ed Davis.
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Reflexx · Franchise Player Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Posts: 11163

Boozer is still better than Randle. Hill sucks.

Omar Little · Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject:

I think they need to swap them. Hill/Randle, Davis/Boozer
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calistrtballr · Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:19 pm Post subject:

Boozer and Hill suck so much balls. I miss Pau. we have no inside presence. Our perimeter shooting is really bad too. Not happy about Wesley starting

j_anthony611 · Sixth Man Joined: 08 Mar 2014 Posts: 41

i think if randle started he'd get MUCH easier looks cause of kobe and maybe nash. we won't know until IF it ever happens. davis needs to start at center for the simple reason he actually provides adequate rim protection.

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Jeffs · Retired Number Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Posts: 25274

Randle isn't ready to start yet. Boozer is going to be starting for the foreseeable future. I wouldn't mind seeing Davis in the starting lineup though. I foresee him and Hill splitting the center minutes 50/50 either way.
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Andre2K · Franchise Player Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 12199

At this point Pau sucks too, and I think I'd rather have Boozer he is pretty much automatic from mid-range. Only thing Pau brought that Boozer doesn't have is length. I do think Ed Davis should start in place of Hill tho, Hill can be the first big off the bench. I think Davis will complement Boozer in the front court really well. And I won't mind Nick Young starting along side Nash and Bryant. Wes will probably be better off coming off the bench.
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mhan00 · Retired Number Joined: 13 Apr 2001 Posts: 32059

Boozer isn't a good defender, never has been. He's decent at positioning, but gone gives up too much size, especially with his TRex arms, and now that he's older, he doesn't move his feet nearly as well.

Too early to judge, but I'm not encouraged by Hill disappearing today. Too reminiscent of previous years where he'd look amazing one game, grabbing boards like a mad man and getting opportunistic baskets, and then kind of float the next couple of games. Hopefully the newfound sobriety shows up in the form of better consistency this season.

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Omar Little · Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:35 pm Post subject:

DimesnD · Starting Rotation Joined: 14 Feb 2009 Posts: 944

i'd like to see hill/davis in there against the other teams 1st unit in the preseason to see how they mesh.