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venturalakersfan
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The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
He said the money was important, and yes, he was going to take it, but he also said he wants to play.
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NickF
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
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Omar Little
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| NickF wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
Yes. He just didn't say that was the only reason.
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NickF
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | NickF wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
Yes. He just didn't say that was the only reason. |
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NickF
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:37 pm Post subject: |
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| 24 wrote: | | NickF wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
Yes. He just didn't say that was the only reason. |
Broken down player says he wants the money and also says he is here to play, ok. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| NickF wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | NickF wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
Yes. He just didn't say that was the only reason. |
Broken down player says he wants the money and also says he is here to play, ok. |
You think Nash busted his ass all offseason to not play? You think he's in that kind of shape to just show up and accept his check? He merely admitted he wants his money even if he can't make it back. But make no mistake, he wants very badly to be on that floor.
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lukewaltonsdad
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| I have no doubt wants to play but his body just isn't up to the rigors of an NBA season; at this point, with the inconsistency of whether or not he's playing from game to game, his horrific defense, the fact that he's older & slower, I consider him a liability out there, period. Develop some younger talent and people that have a chance to be here beyond this season. |
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Lets put an end to the "nash is only in it for the money"
EVERY NBA player is in it for the money.
Nash is also putting his body through a lot of trevail and pain with a rigorous work out regime to put his both in position for him to actually play in the NBA for this team.
Nash is at a point in his career where he could say literally every night "eh I'm just not feeling it today, I'm not gonna play."
But Nash is out there busting his tail, sometimes harder than the guys 20 years his junior and hanging with them. Nash is pushing his body to limits he really doesn't have to if he just retired, and he's putting his body through that because he wants to play, and play for the Lakers.
He isn't sitting back, not practicing, getting fat and collecting his paycheck. He's working harder than anyone else on this team NOT named Kobe.
And if you ignore that and just want to bring up the "money" quote, then you are only creating a mountain out of a molehill because if you acknowledge everything Nash is doing you wouldn't be able to discredit him at all. If anything its admirable. |
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Even if he doesn't lead the first or second unit, he could still be an interesting option off the bench. I'd still like to see him on the floor sometimes, if only to teach Lin and Clarkson.
But yeah, as a regular rotation player, it is hard to imagine right now.
Feel bad for him, but time to be realistic. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Lets put an end to the "nash is only in it for the money"
EVERY NBA player is in it for the money.
Nash is also putting his body through a lot of trevail and pain with a rigorous work out regime to put his both in position for him to actually play in the NBA for this team.
Nash is at a point in his career where he could say literally every night "eh I'm just not feeling it today, I'm not gonna play."
But Nash is out there busting his tail, sometimes harder than the guys 20 years his junior and hanging with them. Nash is pushing his body to limits he really doesn't have to if he just retired, and he's putting his body through that because he wants to play, and play for the Lakers.
He isn't sitting back, not practicing, getting fat and collecting his paycheck. He's working harder than anyone else on this team NOT named Kobe.
And if you ignore that and just want to bring up the "money" quote, then you are only creating a mountain out of a molehill because if you acknowledge everything Nash is doing you wouldn't be able to discredit him at all. If anything its admirable. |
This is a basketball team not a charity, you are busting your ass that is incredible, but you can not play basketball to any kind of acceptable level anymore. Is Lakers here to win or be a retirement home? |
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lukewaltonsdad
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| NickF wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Lets put an end to the "nash is only in it for the money"
EVERY NBA player is in it for the money.
Nash is also putting his body through a lot of trevail and pain with a rigorous work out regime to put his both in position for him to actually play in the NBA for this team.
Nash is at a point in his career where he could say literally every night "eh I'm just not feeling it today, I'm not gonna play."
But Nash is out there busting his tail, sometimes harder than the guys 20 years his junior and hanging with them. Nash is pushing his body to limits he really doesn't have to if he just retired, and he's putting his body through that because he wants to play, and play for the Lakers.
He isn't sitting back, not practicing, getting fat and collecting his paycheck. He's working harder than anyone else on this team NOT named Kobe.
And if you ignore that and just want to bring up the "money" quote, then you are only creating a mountain out of a molehill because if you acknowledge everything Nash is doing you wouldn't be able to discredit him at all. If anything its admirable. |
This is a basketball team not a charity, you are busting your ass that is incredible, but you can not play basketball to any kind of acceptable level anymore. Is Lakers here to win or be a retirement home? |
 Don't worry; don't you know he's the best PG on the floor when healthy. He'll also play in more than 60 games this year and be very productive. Yeah right. What's going to happen is he'll take away time from the guys that can develop and hopefully have a future with us (Lin.) I wished he would just retire and go away.... |
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lukewaltonsdad
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| Quote: | With Steve Nash asking out of Sunday's game, the attention only intensified on what the team planned to do with him over the next six months. He will sit out about one-fourth of their 82 games throughout the regular season, approximately one a week, to help manage chronic nerve damage in his back, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Nash, 40, played only 15 games last season and could not finish the Lakers' 116-75 loss to Golden State on Sunday, their second-biggest preseason defeat since they started tracking exhibition scores and stats in 1982.
"He just didn't feel himself. He didn't say what it was particularly," Lakers Coach Byron Scott said Monday. "Being that he's been in this league for that long, and he understands his body a whole better than I do, I take that for what it's worth and sit him down the rest of the game."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20141014-story.html |
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This is just so sad. Tragic. Hilarious. Pathetic. So many things.
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On the brigt side, if Nash breaks down completely, he could net LA a sizable injured player exception.
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lukewaltonsdad
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | This is just so sad. Tragic. Hilarious. Pathetic. So many things. |
My sentiments exactly... |
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| 24 wrote: | | On the brigt side, if Nash breaks down completely, he could net LA a sizable injured player exception. |
any thoughts as to who's still out there to get with that exception? |
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| honestly though, healthy nash or no nash, team will struggle to win games. if this were a 35 year old nash then that might make a difference. he's 40!! |
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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| NickF wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Lets put an end to the "nash is only in it for the money"
EVERY NBA player is in it for the money.
Nash is also putting his body through a lot of trevail and pain with a rigorous work out regime to put his both in position for him to actually play in the NBA for this team.
Nash is at a point in his career where he could say literally every night "eh I'm just not feeling it today, I'm not gonna play."
But Nash is out there busting his tail, sometimes harder than the guys 20 years his junior and hanging with them. Nash is pushing his body to limits he really doesn't have to if he just retired, and he's putting his body through that because he wants to play, and play for the Lakers.
He isn't sitting back, not practicing, getting fat and collecting his paycheck. He's working harder than anyone else on this team NOT named Kobe.
And if you ignore that and just want to bring up the "money" quote, then you are only creating a mountain out of a molehill because if you acknowledge everything Nash is doing you wouldn't be able to discredit him at all. If anything its admirable. |
This is a basketball team not a charity, you are busting your ass that is incredible, but you can not play basketball to any kind of acceptable level anymore. Is Lakers here to win or be a retirement home? |
I guess guaranteed contracts don't enter the conversation?
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| lukewaltonsdad wrote: | | Quote: | With Steve Nash asking out of Sunday's game, the attention only intensified on what the team planned to do with him over the next six months. He will sit out about one-fourth of their 82 games throughout the regular season, approximately one a week, to help manage chronic nerve damage in his back, according to a person familiar with the situation.
Nash, 40, played only 15 games last season and could not finish the Lakers' 116-75 loss to Golden State on Sunday, their second-biggest preseason defeat since they started tracking exhibition scores and stats in 1982.
"He just didn't feel himself. He didn't say what it was particularly," Lakers Coach Byron Scott said Monday. "Being that he's been in this league for that long, and he understands his body a whole better than I do, I take that for what it's worth and sit him down the rest of the game."
http://www.latimes.com/sports/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20141014-story.html |
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My guess is what they hope to do with him is play him enough that he leaves a good impression and is wanted at the deadline by a contender as a bench shooter with a big ending contract.
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| Lakerpark wrote: | | I remember long ago when I just started to follow the Lakers that Jerry West was repeatedly experiencing abdominal strains and early in the season (if not during the preseason) he decided to retire. |
Jerry West was a different breed in a different era. Nash won't put the needs of the team over his own mid-life crisis/money grab. Hey, Steve. You're 40. It's over. Move on and let the team move on.
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"A little sciatica problem..." Eh? Hmmmm...
janis carr @janiscarr · 11h 11 hours ago
Nash said he's ok. Experienced "little sciatica problem" in last nights game. Didn't want it to get worse so asked to come out |
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| 24 wrote: | | NickF wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | NickF wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
The only change is you adding words to Nash's mouth. Because that isn't what he said. |
Did he not say this: "On the other hand, it's just a reality, I'm not going to retire because I want the money," Nash said. "It's honest." ? |
Yes. He just didn't say that was the only reason. |
Broken down player says he wants the money and also says he is here to play, ok. |
You think Nash busted his ass all offseason to not play? You think he's in that kind of shape to just show up and accept his check? He merely admitted he wants his money even if he can't make it back. But make no mistake, he wants very badly to be on that floor. |
Then he should be on the floor for every regular season game. Hope these taking games off thing is just for the preseason. Play him limited minutes, fine, but he should be there every game if healthy. I hope he didn't bust his ass to be a part time player. |
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I have no doubts nash works very hard. He's in great shape....for a 40 year old. That being said, this is a younger man's game.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | This is just so sad. Tragic. Hilarious. Pathetic. So many things. |
In a way though it's just pre-season. Seems to me he could've played if it were a regular season game.
If he can't go though - injured player exception. Though, I'd have no idea who the Lakers could possibly use that on lol. |
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