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Kobe2Clark
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 Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:37 pm Post subject: I just cannot take this team seriously if Nash is allowed to start |
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Nothing against Nash personally but he is finished as a starter. It's even worse when he's paired with Kobe who has lost more than a step himself.
Lin or Price should start since they can penetrate and hopefully keep up with other PGs. Nash's scoring and playmaking are just not good enough at this point to warrant the starting job. Playing him alongside an older, slower Kobe is ridiculous and the Scott era will start off as a joke if this continues in the regular season.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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Been saying this for a couple months now.
There are people here (and on the coaching staff apparently) that Nash is the best PG in a Laker uniform. |
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Boldarblood
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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It does not matter who starts, it only matters who gets more minutes and more importantly finishes the game.
Nothing else matters. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Boldarblood wrote: | It does not matter who starts, it only matters who gets more minutes and more importantly finishes the game.
Nothing else matters. |
So you'd be ok with having Kobe come off the bench then? |
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Kobe2Clark
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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I still believe Kobe is the best player on this team. Playing a guy who is not a threat off the dribble with him makes his job much harder (Look at how GS sat in his lap all night). That hurts the team...
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I can't take this team seriously even if Nash doesn't start. We don't have any prime time players and Kobe's outings this season have been dismal.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| 3 weeks of pre-season left people. |
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Boldarblood
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Boldarblood wrote: | It does not matter who starts, it only matters who gets more minutes and more importantly finishes the game.
Nothing else matters. |
So you'd be ok with having Kobe come off the bench then? |
100% absolutely, it does not matter who starts the game. Just because someone else started the game, does not mean they are going to get as many minutes as kobe, and more importantly he will have more energy to finish the game in the 4th.
So yep, if kobe came off the bench, I would have no issue with it. |
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| We are still in preseason. We have a large number of young players and they need time to gel. Let's see what Scott can do in a few more games! |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: I just cannot take this team seriously if Nash is allowed to start |
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| Kobe2Clark wrote: | Nothing against Nash personally but he is finished as a starter. It's even worse when he's paired with Kobe who has lost more than a step himself.
Lin or Price should start since they can penetrate and hopefully keep up with other PGs. Nash's scoring and playmaking are just not good enough at this point to warrant the starting job. Playing him alongside an older, slower Kobe is ridiculous and the Scott era will start off as a joke if this continues in the regular season. |
LOL agree with your big picture point, but i can't take your post seriously either because you raised the notion of Price starting. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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Will part of not taking them seriously be not starting threads about taking them seriously?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Boldarblood wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Boldarblood wrote: | It does not matter who starts, it only matters who gets more minutes and more importantly finishes the game.
Nothing else matters. |
So you'd be ok with having Kobe come off the bench then? |
100% absolutely, it does not matter who starts the game. Just because someone else started the game, does not mean they are going to get as many minutes as kobe, and more importantly he will have more energy to finish the game in the 4th.
So yep, if kobe came off the bench, I would have no issue with it. |
Hahahaha. Somehow I feel like you pinned yourself in a corner with that one and now you have to stick to it.
I think who starts makes a big, big difference. Particularly, in establishing the right tone and style of play for the bench players and backups to continue on with.
It's not really about minutes per se. |
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Boldarblood
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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No, I am not in a corner at all.
As an example, look at the San Antonio Spurs and Manu Ginobili. In his career he could have easily been a starter but he was better served coming off the bench.
I still say that who starts does not matter. |
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Kobe2Clark
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: I just cannot take this team seriously if Nash is allowed to start |
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[quote="DJ Slik"] | Kobe2Clark wrote: | | LOL agree with your big picture point, but i can't take your post seriously either because you raised the notion of Price starting. |
LOL he's not a PG but he'd be better than Nash
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Boldarblood wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Boldarblood wrote: | It does not matter who starts, it only matters who gets more minutes and more importantly finishes the game.
Nothing else matters. |
So you'd be ok with having Kobe come off the bench then? |
100% absolutely, it does not matter who starts the game. Just because someone else started the game, does not mean they are going to get as many minutes as kobe, and more importantly he will have more energy to finish the game in the 4th.
So yep, if kobe came off the bench, I would have no issue with it. |
Hahahaha. Somehow I feel like you pinned yourself in a corner with that one and now you have to stick to it.
I think who starts makes a big, big difference. Particularly, in establishing the right tone and style of play for the bench players and backups to continue on with.
It's not really about minutes per se. |
I agree with you 100%. |
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ringfinger
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Boldarblood wrote: | No, I am not in a corner at all.
As an example, look at the San Antonio Spurs and Manu Ginobili. In his career he could have easily been a starter but he was better served coming off the bench.
I still say that who starts does not matter. |
Wait WAT? Haha.
Your example is Manu Ginobili? That proves my point, not yours! Hahaha.
You just said that Manu is best served coming off the bench, which I agree wholeheartedly with. So then it DOES matter who starts.
The Spurs are best served with Danny Green starting and Manu off the bench (which we both agree with) so I'm not sure how your statement that "who starts does not matter" when it clearly does and you even said so. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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That's ok, we will muddle on without you.
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lukewaltonsdad
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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I'm hoping Byron gets a clue myself and doesn't concede to Nash. whenever Nash is 'feeling' healthy. Nash is listed as a probable starter for the next game against Utah; here's hoping he looks awful and we could go with Lin.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Seriously? |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | That's ok, we will muddle on without you. |
 yep |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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I agree. Nash is not starter material anymore... we'll see though..
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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| If it's out of respect I understand why Byron wants to start Nash (and Boozer for that matter), but Lin and Price need to practice with the first unit. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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Mitch saying this team is going to be contending for a championship is laughable (I don't remember Mitch's exact words, but he talked about this team is better than most think, and he included championship in his remarks), especially after seeing the 40 year old Nash. Neither Nash or Kobe looked like former MVP'S. Kobe could not do anything against GS's double teams, and he forced all of his shots, it was not pretty seeing two warriors that no longer can do what they did in the past.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lets wait and see the team all playing together before we rush to conclusions.
I'm guessing the second unit will be
Lin
Henry
Young
Randle
Davis
We haven't seen them play at all yet. Guys like Ellington and price, sacre are not likely to get very many minutes this season but they have played a lot this season.
I'm trying my best to wait this out. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2014 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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I don't even know if he should be getting minutes anymore. This "if Steve Nash is healthy" stuff needs to end.
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