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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:59 am Post subject: |
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Gimme_the_rock wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | This is a real distraction. Come out and say Lin is the starter, no if ands and buts.
Let Nash come off the bench and give whatever/whenever he can. All this back and forth about Nash should cease at this point. |
I agree with your point that Lin should just be named the starter outright ... but I disagree that it's that much of a distraction. The preseason isn't yet halfway finished. |
How can you name either one the starter when neither one can play? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:00 am Post subject: |
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fansincemagic wrote: | 8 pages later I gotta ask, can't they have some of his contract covered by insurance if he plays something like less than 10 games? I know there was something last year about it. |
If the insurance company determines that he cannot play due to injury they would cover part of his salary. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:01 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Gimme_the_rock wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | This is a real distraction. Come out and say Lin is the starter, no if ands and buts.
Let Nash come off the bench and give whatever/whenever he can. All this back and forth about Nash should cease at this point. |
I agree with your point that Lin should just be named the starter outright ... but I disagree that it's that much of a distraction. The preseason isn't yet halfway finished. |
How can you name either one the starter when neither one can play? |
Do we have to worry about Lin hurting his back when picking up his own bags?
The Nash-as-starter notion should be over. Pack THAT up in a bag. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:07 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Gimme_the_rock wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | This is a real distraction. Come out and say Lin is the starter, no if ands and buts.
Let Nash come off the bench and give whatever/whenever he can. All this back and forth about Nash should cease at this point. |
I agree with your point that Lin should just be named the starter outright ... but I disagree that it's that much of a distraction. The preseason isn't yet halfway finished. |
How can you name either one the starter when neither one can play? |
That's easy. Open mouth, announce starter. Or, use hands, type announcement of starter.
But I don't think we should have Nash do it. He might break his jaw or finger. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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NBA Salary Cap FAQ
According to this the Lakers have a way to rid themselves of Nash. I may not be correct in my interpretation. They can wait 60 days from his last game. His last game was last season. I hope they don't allow him to play any games this season. If they do I give them a F- in FO skills.
63. What are the rules for retired players? What if the player suffers a career-ending injury?
Quote: | There is one exception whereby a player can continue to receive his salary, but the salary is excluded from team salary. This is when a player suffers a career-ending injury or illness. The team must waive the player, and can apply for this salary exclusion following a waiting period. Only the player's team at the time the injury or illness was discovered (or reasonably should have been discovered) can apply for this salary exclusion.
The waiting period depends on the number games in which the player played in the season:1
If the player played 10 or more games in a season, the team can apply on the one-year anniversary of the player's last game.
If the player played fewer than 10 in a season, the team can apply 60 days after his last game, or the one-year anniversary of his last game in the previous season, whichever is later.
The determination as to whether an injury or illness is career ending is made by a physician jointly selected by the league and players association. The determination is based on whether the injury or illness will prevent the player from playing for the remainder of his career, or if it is severe enough that continuing to play constitutes a medically unacceptable risk.
If the injury exclusion is granted, the player's salary is removed from the team salary immediately. |
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Rawr Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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Can we get a trade exception rather just clear cap space? I'd love for us to be able to absorb the salary of a SF, for example. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals. |
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Air Apparent Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Nash needs to do the honorable thing and retire rather than drag this out so he can get paid. That or we just need to amnesty him. _________________ LG needs a min IQ requirement for posting.
"Prior to evolving his game this season (12-13), Kobe became a tall Allen Iverson." - Lakersarethebesteva |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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Air Apparent wrote: | Nash needs to do the honorable thing and retire rather than drag this out so he can get paid. That or we just need to amnesty him. |
It does us no good if he retires.
We cannot amnesty him because we already used our amnesty. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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Air Apparent wrote: | Nash needs to do the honorable thing and retire rather than drag this out so he can get paid. That or we just need to amnesty him. |
Why would him retiring be good for us?
You wouldn't rather have his expiring contract to potentially trade?!? |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Can we get a trade exception rather just clear cap space? I'd love for us to be able to absorb the salary of a SF, for example. |
It would be an injured player exception of wharever portion of Nash's salary the league decides on. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I don't understand the organizations loyalty to Nash. He hasn't done anything for them. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Rawr wrote: | Can we get a trade exception rather just clear cap space? I'd love for us to be able to absorb the salary of a SF, for example. |
It would be an injured player exception of wharever portion of Nash's salary the league decides on. |
That is assuming the league determines that Nash's retirement is medically required, right?
As opposed to him just being old and not being able to recover fully before his planned retirement date. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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BREAKING NEWS: Steve Nash will be playing tonight against the Jazz.
Will be coming off the bench for the first time this season. |
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Don Draper Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | <b>BREAKING NEWS</b>: Steve Nash will be playing tonight against the Jazz.
Will be coming off the bench for the first time this season. |
Well let's see. If he can still pitch in what Steve Blake gave us a few seasons back I can go for that. He just needs to be more careful with his back; there's gotta be something our medical team can do to help stabilize it. |
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KLS Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nash is obviously too old to play through the regular season. He needs the money obviously otherwise he should just announce retirement before this year. The Lakers need healthy bodies to play through the season. Why not just work out a buy-out with Nash and then hire him back as assistant coach to help mentor Lin and Clarkson, while we can sign another player to the team. It is beneficial to both sides. Lakers need to move forward instead of wasting valuable playing time to retiring oldie. Give the time to the youngsters to develop their skills instead. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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3 to 1 Nash won't play without his back giving him problems and causing him to leave the game. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Nash coming off the bench is likely gonna be the one shot he has at being as healthy as he can be this season. |
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ryan_c Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | <b>BREAKING NEWS</b>: Steve Nash will be playing tonight against the Jazz.
Will be coming off the bench for the first time this season. |
Nice one. |
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Kirby Brian Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Steve Nash will try to play against the Jazz on Thursday.
Interesting. He tweaked his back carrying a bag on Wednesday, so why not throw him in the lineup on Thursday? |
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jlinfan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Nash probably testing his limits playing through pain.
Hoping it turns out well. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Nash a no go.... _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:05 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Update: Steve Nash will not play tonight.</p>— Laker Nation (@LakerNation) |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | I don't understand the organizations loyalty to Nash. He hasn't done anything for them. |
There isn't anything the Lakers can do but to pay Nash his contract. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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ringfinger wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Rawr wrote: | Can we get a trade exception rather just clear cap space? I'd love for us to be able to absorb the salary of a SF, for example. |
It would be an injured player exception of wharever portion of Nash's salary the league decides on. |
That is assuming the league determines that Nash's retirement is medically required, right?
As opposed to him just being old and not being able to recover fully before his planned retirement date. |
The league would have to approve the injury exception. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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BennyLava wrote: | Quote: | Update: Steve Nash will not play tonight.</p>— Laker Nation (@LakerNation) |
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They tested out his back by having him pick up a coach bag |
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