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| kfkilla wrote: | | How pathetic was that Mitch interview where he was basically a used car sales man...a poor one at that.....telling fans to buy tickets and come watch Kobe play. I was disgusted. Pathetic. Laker leadership is horrid |
I actually took it as a message that the FO is sending to Kobe and their fans.
they want to move on |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:01 am Post subject: |
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| kfkilla wrote: | | How pathetic was that Mitch interview where he was basically a used car sales man...a poor one at that.....telling fans to buy tickets and come watch Kobe play. I was disgusted. Pathetic. Laker leadership is horrid |
I think that the point of what Mitch was saying zoomed over your head.
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| laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
How were the Mavs executing it that first year when they were able to sign 0 FAs?
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
How were the Mavs executing it that first year when they were able to sign 0 FAs? |
Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
How were the Mavs executing it that first year when they were able to sign 0 FAs? |
The organization and operation of the Mavs FO is way more cohesive and consistent than the Lakers at this point.
Same coaching and unity among everyone has led to more progress with the Mavs.
The Lakers are simply disorganized. This is year 2 of the rebuilding plan and we are so far behind it is ridiculous.
We will need a miracle. The Mavs had an aging team leader and strong FO who were willing to work together to allow them to bring in players such as Parson, Ellis and now Rondo.
The Mavs will not compete for a championship. They will likely not win but that is a lot better than the Lakers will ever be for a long time.(unless there is a miracle) |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 11:40 am Post subject: |
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| Tagurt wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
How were the Mavs executing it that first year when they were able to sign 0 FAs? |
Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left).
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| 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
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| Tagurt wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | The Mavs began by saving cap space for the off season to chase the big name FAs. Sound familiar? |
lakers may have the same plan but the Mavs are executing it better than the Lakers.
This falls on the FO |
How were the Mavs executing it that first year when they were able to sign 0 FAs? |
Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Well, it was impossible for him to be extended, so there is your answer. Making stuff up doesn't help your point.
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| Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010.
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He is the Director of Scouting?
What a joke this franchise has become.
This is further indication that this franchise will simply not get close to the level of its past success because this incident reflects the lack of commitment by the current leaders of this franchise.
In less than three years, Jim will be gone. Hopefully, this Buss will walk away shortly. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010. |
Dirk took his when he was 32. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010. |
There is more to the demise of this team than the simple salary issues. |
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| laker4life wrote: |
He is the Director of Scouting?
What a joke this franchise has become.
This is further indication that this franchise will simply not get close to the level of its past success because this incident reflects the lack of commitment by the current leaders of this franchise.
In less than three years, Jim will be gone. Hopefully, this Buss will walk away shortly. |
Is he now? I know it was Bertka last season.
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| tonman wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010. |
Dirk took his when he was 32. |
Thanks for that random fact.
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| laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010. |
There is more to the demise of this team than the simple salary issues. |
It is called the "after 20 years of contention" hangover.
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| tonman wrote: | | Dirk took his when he was 32. |
Also (per HoopsHype):
Dirk's salary for 2014 - 2016: $16,307,815
Kobe's salary for 2014 - 2016: $48,500,000
After the Rondo trade, Dirk now has the fifth-highest salary on the team. |
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14 - 15 Lakers Media Guide (large PDF file of over 17 meg)
Special Assistant To The GM / Basketball Consultant
Bill Bertka
Director, Scouting
Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting
Ryan West |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | laker4life wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | 24 wrote: | | Tagurt wrote: | | Not giving a mega extension to their aging star player? |
Because he already had a huge deal. He didn't take the pay cut until year four of their rebuild. Kobe's salary will be off the books in year four of La's rebuild (year one being the year Dwight left). |
Dirk actually took a paycut already in 2010 when he opted to get 80 mil from 2011-2014 as opposed to 96 mil which was his max. In the meanwhile Kobe took the most he could for his 2011-2014 salary, and then he was more than willing to get a huge extension for 2015-2016 despite the fact that the team needs as much capspace as possible to shore up a depleted roster. When Kobe decided to take the money he said he signed the extension for the purpose of winning. Now that the team isn't winning are we going to simply forget what he said? |
Kobe also took a pay cut beginning in 2014, just as Dirk did in 2010. |
There is more to the demise of this team than the simple salary issues. |
It is called the "after 20 years of contention" hangover. |
Sorry no hangover.
I am simply calling it like I see it as well as other fans on this forum and at games that I attend.
There is more to the demise of this team than the salary issues. |
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FO messed up. They should have waited till Kobe returned from injury and offered a contract that was reasonable for everyone.
We could have had a shot at Marc Gasol and Love in 2015 that way. |
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| Bard207 wrote: | 14 - 15 Lakers Media Guide (large PDF file of over 17 meg)
Special Assistant To The GM / Basketball Consultant
Bill Bertka
Director, Scouting
Jesse Buss
Assistant Director, Scouting
Ryan West |
I'm guessing Jessie does little actual work and West handles the day to day. |
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| EldenCampbell wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Dirk took his when he was 32. |
Also (per HoopsHype):
Dirk's salary for 2014 - 2016: $16,307,815
Kobe's salary for 2014 - 2016: $48,500,000
After the Rondo trade, Dirk now has the fifth-highest salary on the team. |
Well hoophype got it wrong. Nobody in the history of the NBA has gotten 48 mill for playing one season of basketball.
Kobe is getting paid that amount over 2 years
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| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | EldenCampbell wrote: | | tonman wrote: | | Dirk took his when he was 32. |
Also (per HoopsHype):
Dirk's salary for 2014 - 2016: $16,307,815
Kobe's salary for 2014 - 2016: $48,500,000
After the Rondo trade, Dirk now has the fifth-highest salary on the team. |
Well hoophype got it wrong. Nobody in the history of the NBA has gotten 48 mill for playing one season of basketball.
Kobe is getting paid that amount over 2 years |
Look at what you quoted again. You misread it. |
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