Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:57 am Post subject: ESPN Team Forecast for Lakers: 29-53 (13th in WC)
Hate to pile on, but this was just posted to ESPN yesterday.
Quote:
Kevin Pelton's SCHOENE projection expects the Lakers to win 30 games next season, with a surprisingly optimistic expected offensive efficiency (109.3 points per 100 possessions, 10th highest), although a healthy Bryant and Nash, along with additions Lin and Boozer, would give the offense some punch. Defensively, they are projected to allow 110.9 points per 100 possessions, second worst in the league and only 0.3 points behind league-worst Philadelphia. Again, this makes sense as almost every player is a defensive liability.
There is a great chance the Lakers will be terrible this season, but there is a silver lining: The 2015 first-round pick they owe to Phoenix is top-five protected, so being very bad actually acts in their favor, as it increases the chances that they will get to hold on to that pick and add another young building block for the future.
The article acknowledges that the Lakers have a chance to re-stock talent next summer.
I can't wait to see the reaction when the Lakers beat up on teams.
Just relax. Hopefully we see some vintage Kobe on some nights, see Randle blossom and get contributions from other vets. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I think the disrespect the Lakers are getting is out of hate... they don't want Kobe getting his 6th ring and upping his already tremendous legacy.... Kobe is waiting for the RS to start he's not gonna show us his new moves in the preseason.
I don't think anyone's worried about Kobe getting 6th tbh.
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Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:14 am Post subject:
ringfinger wrote:
ESPN has been over optimistic on our projections for the last several years.
Hoping the crap sticks on the wall is not a good strategy.... no one knows what teams might do this year..... trades and other team instincts can go a long way of being a good team.... ESPN has been full of crap for a while now.
ESPN has been over optimistic on our projections for the last several years.
Hoping the crap sticks on the wall is not a good strategy.... no one knows what teams might do this year..... trades and other team instincts can go a long way of being a good team.... ESPN has been full of crap for a while now.
Except they have been pretty spot on the past 5 years. They actually OVER-rated us with Nash/Howard (which everyone did).
I do think they pile on Kobe a bit more than others, but they haven't been overly off with their recent predictions, sad to say. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I think the disrespect the Lakers are getting is out of hate... they don't want Kobe getting his 6th ring and upping his already tremendous legacy....
LOL!!! There is no way the Lakers will be close to a championship team but Scott will have them be a hardworking team which I will enjoy watching hoping to get to 40 wins
I think the disrespect the Lakers are getting is out of hate... they don't want Kobe getting his 6th ring and upping his already tremendous legacy....
LOL!!! There is no way the Lakers will be close to a championship team but Scott will have them be a hardworking team which I will enjoy watching hoping to get to 40 wins
Yes, but this is a great excuse we can point our finger to, if by some miracle we don't end up with the championship this year.
ESPN has been over optimistic on our projections for the last several years.
Hoping the crap sticks on the wall is not a good strategy.... no one knows what teams might do this year..... trades and other team instincts can go a long way of being a good team.... ESPN has been full of crap for a while now.
Huh? What do you mean no one knows what teams might do this year? You've stated you think the Lakers will make the playoffs.
ESPN's projections have been overly optimistic since our last championship run. You do realize this right? They've either been better-than-actual or perfectly accurate. Your projections (and to be fair, many of ours), have been way off compared to ESPN.
So with all due respect, I don't know that it is ESPN with the crap stick on wall strategy.
I don't think Pelton's projection is aware of Byron's offensive philosophy. I think his defensive projection is overly optimistic, if anything (I think we're dead last in D this year), all of which has me further disconcerted by his 29-win projection. It seems high.
I don't think Pelton's projection, particularly on offense, is aware of Byron's offensive philosophy. I think his defensive projection is overly optimistic, if anything (I think we're dead last in D this year), all of which has me further disconcerted by his 29-win projection. It seems high.
You think his defensive projection is "overly optimistic"?? He projected them 29th out of 30. You're saying 30 out of 30. You guys are basically saying the same thing I hope you're not really going to quibble over 1 spot in a 30 spot list.
I'm hoping for better defense than that, but we certainly don't have the roster for it.
I thought his offense was overly optimistic. No way we are going to be top 10 offensive team. We don't even have a second scoring option yet!
I can't wait to see the reaction when the Lakers beat up on teams.
Not this again.
ESPN has been over optimistic on our projections for the last several years.
Which shows they don't know what they are talking about.
VLF, IIRC, the past 5 years, ESPN was on the mark with the Lakers' eventual records. When we were good, ESPN was correct to put us in the top 2. Similarly, when we were projected to be bad (last year), they had the right range.
The only year in the past 5 that they were significantly off was when they had us in the top 2 with Dwight/Nash, and that was overprojecting.
So for people to conclude that the ESPN projections are biased is off IMO. They've been pretty correct with respect to that. It's the other piling on they do, but that's a reflection of: 1) gets great ratings from Lakers fans; 2) frankly an easy thing to do when the franchise is on the down side. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
I don't think Pelton's projection, particularly on offense, is aware of Byron's offensive philosophy. I think his defensive projection is overly optimistic, if anything (I think we're dead last in D this year), all of which has me further disconcerted by his 29-win projection. It seems high.
You think his defensive projection is "overly optimistic"?? He projected them 29th out of 30. You're saying 30 out of 30. You guys are basically saying the same thing I hope you're not really going to quibble over 1 spot in a 30 spot list.
I'm hoping for better defense than that, but we certainly don't have the roster for it.
I thought his offense was overly optimistic. No way we are going to be top 10 offensive team. We don't even have a second scoring option yet!
RE: defense, the "overly" qualifier was probably too much. I agree the offensive projection is very "overly." I don't even think we're middle of the pack this year.
I don't think Pelton's projection is aware of Byron's offensive philosophy. I think his defensive projection is overly optimistic, if anything (I think we're dead last in D this year), all of which has me further disconcerted by his 29-win projection. It seems high.
Philly's D was sooo terrible last year it was scary. You might recall Nash had his best game of the year when we played out there.
That said they do add Noel as a shot blocker, but their perimeter defenders are beyond awful. If we are below them, well that would be quite the accomplishment by Coach Scott.
I can't wait to see the reaction when the Lakers beat up on teams.
Not this again.
ESPN has been over optimistic on our projections for the last several years.
And when each of those projections came out, a bunch of people came out with pitchforks saying they were hating on the Lakers and underestimating them. I don't understand why these people that disregard ESPN are so obsessed with what they have to say.
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