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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:21 pm    Post subject:

Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject:

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Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:37 pm    Post subject:

LakerLand247 wrote:
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Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:49 pm    Post subject:

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LakerLand247 wrote:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook

Don't forget Wesley Johnson. He's our Durant.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:54 pm    Post subject:

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LakerLand247 wrote:
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Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook


Don't be obtuse. No one is saying he is exactly like Ibaka. He has similarities to Ibaka when he first came into the league. Ibaka was raw just like Ed Davis is now
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:15 pm    Post subject:

paolomagma wrote:
crazylakerfan001 wrote:
LakerLand247 wrote:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook

Don't forget Wesley Johnson. He's our Durant.

And we have Kobe Bryant. He's like our Kobe Bryant. Um wait a minute...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:08 am    Post subject:

Umm. Anyone mention julius randle yet?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject:

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Pau was a big part of the team's inside presence. If we kept Pau and added Davis to start I think we'd be better off. Should have given Pau 13M per and tell Hill to choose some other team or take 6m.

Pau did not want to stay
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:06 am    Post subject:

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diando wrote:
Pau was a big part of the team's inside presence. If we kept Pau and added Davis to start I think we'd be better off. Should have given Pau 13M per and tell Hill to choose some other team or take 6m.

Pau did not want to stay


pau would also have been a twilight contract.

mitch turned jhill into a tradable asset. 9mil expiring big is easy to move. Especially when we're looking for something similar but better.

*fingers crossed that's what happened
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:19 am    Post subject:

AshesToAshes wrote:
Cup-of-noodles wrote:
diando wrote:
Pau was a big part of the team's inside presence. If we kept Pau and added Davis to start I think we'd be better off. Should have given Pau 13M per and tell Hill to choose some other team or take 6m.

Pau did not want to stay


pau would also have been a twilight contract.

mitch turned jhill into a tradable asset. 9mil expiring big is easy to move. Especially when we're looking for something similar but better.

*fingers crossed that's what happened


You do realize Hill has veto powers on trades due to his contract structure? Not as easy as people make it to trade him IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:22 am    Post subject:

This season is about developing that big.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:30 am    Post subject:

Lakers 4 eva wrote:
crazylakerfan001 wrote:
LakerLand247 wrote:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook


Don't be obtuse. No one is saying he is exactly like Ibaka. He has similarities to Ibaka when he first came into the league. Ibaka was raw just like Ed Davis is now


IMO he's more of a poor man's Wilt Chamberlain.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:44 am    Post subject:

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Umm. Anyone mention julius randle yet?


Boozer is gonna start and so we need this from whoever is playing the C position
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:54 am    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
crazylakerfan001 wrote:
LakerLand247 wrote:
Lakers 4 eva wrote:
Ed Davis to me is a poor mans Ibaka. Ibaka was very raw when he first came into the league. Ibaka had no jumpshot and was in the game basically for energy, defense and rebounding. If Ed develops a jumpshot, he can really be a quality player in the league.


I agree. He's even built like him.

So we got Ed Davis that's like our ibaka
Xavier Henry is like our harden
Jordan clarkson is like our Westbrook


Don't be obtuse. No one is saying he is exactly like Ibaka. He has similarities to Ibaka when he first came into the league. Ibaka was raw just like Ed Davis is now


IMO he's more of a poor man's Wilt Chamberlain.


A "poor man's Wilt Chamberlain" would be the top center in the NBA at this day & age!!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject:

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Umm. Anyone mention julius randle yet?


Boozer is gonna start and so we need this from whoever is playing the C position


Boozer, hill, davis they all score inside fine imo.

Interesting anyone notice scott finished the last game with davis and randle. For defense, offense, both?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:13 am    Post subject:

Hill is good hustler for putbacks but he has zero post moves. You cannot consistently generate offense from him in there. Add in the fact that he's under-sized and it's not a good recipe for a starting center...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:49 am    Post subject:

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Hill is good hustler for putbacks but he has zero post moves. You cannot consistently generate offense from him in there. Add in the fact that he's under-sized and it's not a good recipe for a starting center...


I think Davis is doing fine at center. I wonder if it would work out to play Jordan Hill more at PF and play Randle a bit at SF.

Jordan Hill has been showing a nice shooting touch this preseason.

Still need a decent rim protecting center. Can anyone suggest who is out there that might be available to be a decent center. No more of these 6'9 centers. They need a legit 6'11 to 7 foot center who can actually jump to rebound and block shots.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:50 am    Post subject:

Just wondering, would you take Mbenga over Sacre?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:56 am    Post subject:

Kobe2Clark wrote:
Lakers_Jester wrote:
Umm. Anyone mention julius randle yet?


Boozer is gonna start and so we need this from whoever is playing the C position


No. This season is about developing Randle and part of that development will include learning to score inside. To do that, he's going to need lots of playing time and a very loose leash.

The goal should not be to win now at the expense of Randle, IMO (sure we try to do both but Randle is the priority here).

Can't exactly walk in to the C store and pickup an inside scoring big. They are rare, and very expensive.

The priority is Randle and we can develop him for a cost of $0.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:34 am    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
Just wondering, would you take Mbenga over Sacre?


No
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:41 am    Post subject:

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Just wondering, would you take Mbenga over Sacre?


No


Haha. Easiest question you had to answer today VLF?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject:

Very easy. Mbenga is nowhere near the P&R defender that Sacre is, and Sacre sometimes has a nice jumper. Plus I don't know if Mbenga could eat a 5 pound burrito.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:23 pm    Post subject:

I'd say Ed Davis is about 10-15 pounds away from a deandre jordan type center in playstyle. Wouldn't say Ibaka cause his mid range isn't gonna be counted on that much. But the way he goes for rebounds in addition to his athleticism and rim protection, I'd say his playstyle is closer to Deandre's than Serge's.

However that's about 10-15 pounds away too.

What I do like about Davis right now is that he's taking those Worthy footwork lessons to heart, everytime I see him use one of those moves in the post or to seal I get a smile on my face.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:44 pm    Post subject:

Lakerpark wrote:
Just wondering, would you take Mbenga over Sacre?


Mbenga back in the day? Definitely.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
I'd say Ed Davis is about 10-15 pounds away from a deandre jordan type center in playstyle. Wouldn't say Ibaka cause his mid range isn't gonna be counted on that much. But the way he goes for rebounds in addition to his athleticism and rim protection, I'd say his playstyle is closer to Deandre's than Serge's.

However that's about 10-15 pounds away too.

What I do like about Davis right now is that he's taking those Worthy footwork lessons to heart, everytime I see him use one of those moves in the post or to seal I get a smile on my face.


Oh gosh. Marcus Banks of bigs?
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