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LA_Lakers_Rule
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| greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | One thing to consider is that this team really needs defense... At least Wes does bring a reasonable level of defense.... which btw, is what Bryon is asking him to focus on.... |
His defense is only as good as his offense sadly. A lot of players struggle with this. If he could compartmentalize the two I'd have no issue with him. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | One thing to consider is that this team really needs defense... At least Wes does bring a reasonable level of defense.... which btw, is what Bryon is asking him to focus on.... |
His defense is only as good as his offense sadly. A lot of players struggle with this. If he could compartmentalize the two I'd have no issue with him. |
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he lets his offensive struggles negatively affect his defense. |
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Laker Lover
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| He's really on the floor just to hang out and blend in. Does nothing offensively or defensively. Where's the tenacity? Make yourself visable out there. I'm tired of seeing him on the floor. |
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fontana3d
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| Laker Lover wrote: | | He's really on the floor just to hang out and blend in. Does nothing offensively or defensively. Where's the tenacity? Make yourself visable out there. I'm tired of seeing him on the floor. |
Well due to lack of options at SF we have no choice, but to see him on the floor. |
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Goldenwest
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Just compare him to our previous 3's; Ariza, Artest, Metta, 
If only we could switch Wes's attitude/mind with Mettas |
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fontana3d
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| Goldenwest wrote: | Just compare him to our previous 3's; Ariza, Artest, Metta,
If only we could switch Wes's attitude/mind with Mettas |
Well Artest and Metta are the same person, but i see your point. |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Laker Lover wrote: | | He's really on the floor just to hang out and blend in. Does nothing offensively or defensively. Where's the tenacity? Make yourself visable out there. I'm tired of seeing him on the floor. |
Well due to lack of options at SF we have no choice, but to see him on the floor. |
I'd put Randle at SF. |
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| Laker Lover wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Laker Lover wrote: | | He's really on the floor just to hang out and blend in. Does nothing offensively or defensively. Where's the tenacity? Make yourself visable out there. I'm tired of seeing him on the floor. |
Well due to lack of options at SF we have no choice, but to see him on the floor. |
I'd put Randle at SF. |
Expect he doesn't have the jumpshot and the standma for it now. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Laker Lover wrote: | | fontana3d wrote: | | Laker Lover wrote: | | He's really on the floor just to hang out and blend in. Does nothing offensively or defensively. Where's the tenacity? Make yourself visable out there. I'm tired of seeing him on the floor. |
Well due to lack of options at SF we have no choice, but to see him on the floor. |
I'd put Randle at SF. |
Expect he doesn't have the jumpshot and the standma for it now. |
He doesn't have the jumpshot and stamina for power forward. At least he conserve energy not boxing out and trying to do bigman stuff. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | One thing to consider is that this team really needs defense... At least Wes does bring a reasonable level of defense.... which btw, is what Bryon is asking him to focus on.... |
His defense is only as good as his offense sadly. A lot of players struggle with this. If he could compartmentalize the two I'd have no issue with him. |
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he lets his offensive struggles negatively affect his defense. |
Got it... ... thanks for the clarification
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| Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | One thing to consider is that this team really needs defense... At least Wes does bring a reasonable level of defense.... which btw, is what Bryon is asking him to focus on.... |
His defense is only as good as his offense sadly. A lot of players struggle with this. If he could compartmentalize the two I'd have no issue with him. |
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he lets his offensive struggles negatively affect his defense. |
Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I liked Rodman so much as a player. He didn't give a s--- about how many shots he got and lived to devour rebounds and lock people down. Not sure why more players don't try to emulate that.
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I liked Rodman so much as a player. He didn't give a s--- about how many shots he got and lived to devour rebounds and lock people down. Not sure why more players don't try to emulate that. |
People really underestimate what a freakish athlete Rodman was though. Dude could run a half marathon after a full game...
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| Gatekeeper wrote: | | LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I liked Rodman so much as a player. He didn't give a s--- about how many shots he got and lived to devour rebounds and lock people down. Not sure why more players don't try to emulate that. |
People really underestimate what a freakish athlete Rodman was though. Dude could run a half marathon after a full game... |
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| Wes showed some heart tonight I must admit. Kudos |
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Goldenwest
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| 22 wrote: | | Wes showed some heart tonight I must admit. Kudos |
Heart matters most. Maybe Byron can get through to him. MDA certainly couldn't. |
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| fontana3d wrote: | | Goldenwest wrote: | Just compare him to our previous 3's; Ariza, Artest, Metta,
If only we could switch Wes's attitude/mind with Mettas |
Well Artest and Metta are the same person, but i see your point. |
I think Metta would disagree about that  |
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | LA_Lakers_Rule wrote: | | One thing to consider is that this team really needs defense... At least Wes does bring a reasonable level of defense.... which btw, is what Bryon is asking him to focus on.... |
His defense is only as good as his offense sadly. A lot of players struggle with this. If he could compartmentalize the two I'd have no issue with him. |
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he lets his offensive struggles negatively affect his defense. |
Yeah, this is one of the reasons why I liked Rodman so much as a player. He didn't give a s--- about how many shots he got and lived to devour rebounds and lock people down. Not sure why more players don't try to emulate that. |
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Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court.  |
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| pio2u wrote: | Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court. |
Didn't catch the game. But was the rally after Jazz pulled their big names like Hayward/Favors out of the game and we kept our starters in?
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court. |
Didn't catch the game. But was the rally after Jazz pulled their big names like Hayward/Favors out of the game and we kept our starters in? |
It was against scrubs. |
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Wes is still wes. Superstar physical gifts, low IQ and motor, effort comes and goes. His main flaw is to coast a lot, and that doesn't appear to have changed after working with Kobe. Too bad, since with consistent effort he's a dynamo.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court. |
Didn't catch the game. But was the rally after Jazz pulled their big names like Hayward/Favors out of the game and we kept our starters in? |
It's not like our starters are our starters. |
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| Reflexx wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court. |
Didn't catch the game. But was the rally after Jazz pulled their big names like Hayward/Favors out of the game and we kept our starters in? |
It's not like our starters are our starters. |
So what does this all mean? |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Reflexx wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | Wes was big last night during that 3rd quarter rally;
R. Price was the sparkplug but Wes contributed mightily on both ends of the court. |
Didn't catch the game. But was the rally after Jazz pulled their big names like Hayward/Favors out of the game and we kept our starters in? |
It's not like our starters are our starters. |
So what does this all mean? |
Price is our third string pg. We had more guys out than they did.
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| 24 wrote: | | Wes is still wes. Superstar physical gifts, low IQ and motor, effort comes and goes. His main flaw is to coast a lot, and that doesn't appear to have changed after working with Kobe. Too bad, since with consistent effort he's a dynamo. |
Yes, and as was mentioned earlier in this thread, Wes's offense was going so the defensive effort was better.
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