Not only this but Byron wasn't consulted at all nor were his preferences or coaching style likely a even consideration when the major crime of the offseason took place which is the formation of this roster. Even MDA's system got some specific needs partly met (although they didn't even try to get him a rim protector or an NBA-ready stretch 4). This team couldn't run the princeton even if they wanted.
...Sadly, yes they actually were and that is actually a not insignificant part of the problem. It's all in the lane according to BScott. 1980's "live in the lane" type bigs like Hill and Boozer were / are right up BScott's alley. You never heard him fawn over Hill and wonder why he didn't get more minutes last year? Also, an aggressive, penetrating PG like Lin is/was a personal favorite of BScott's for quite a while.
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bevwenz wrote:
greenfrog wrote:
Not only this but Byron wasn't consulted at all nor were his preferences or coaching style likely a even consideration when the major crime of the offseason took place which is the formation of this roster. Even MDA's system got some specific needs partly met (although they didn't even try to get him a rim protector or an NBA-ready stretch 4). This team couldn't run the princeton even if they wanted.
...Sadly, yes they actually were and that is actually a not insignificant part of the problem. It's all in the lane according to BScott. 1980's "live in the lane" type bigs like Hill and Boozer were / are right up BScott's alley. You never heard him fawn over Hill and wonder why he didn't get more minutes last year? Also, an aggressive, penetrating PG like Lin is/was a personal favorite of BScott's for quite a while.
He didn't even get the job until embarrassingly late in the offseason. Except for Ellington and Price the roster was set.
Not only this but Byron wasn't consulted at all nor were his preferences or coaching style likely a even consideration when the major crime of the offseason took place which is the formation of this roster. Even MDA's system got some specific needs partly met (although they didn't even try to get him a rim protector or an NBA-ready stretch 4). This team couldn't run the princeton even if they wanted.
...Sadly, yes they actually were and that is actually a not insignificant part of the problem. It's all in the lane according to BScott. 1980's "live in the lane" type bigs like Hill and Boozer were / are right up BScott's alley. You never heard him fawn over Hill and wonder why he didn't get more minutes last year? Also, an aggressive, penetrating PG like Lin is/was a personal favorite of BScott's for quite a while.
He didn't even get the job until embarrassingly late in the offseason. Except for Ellington and Price the roster was set.
Officially no, but not like there wasn't quite a bit of communication between the parties and bottom line is that the roster moves fit pretty well with the coming out of BScott's actual Bball philosophy.
Was not a fan of Scott's PR fluff honestly. Sounded like he was just saying he will do the the opposite of D'Antoni to build support, regardless of whether or not it was a sound idea.
Rugged and old school defensive team sounds nice until you realize the roster does not fit that at all. Don't be stubborn and do whats best for the team you have. The FO made the same mistake with D'Antoni because they wanted a Showtime team, yet they did not build the roster properly to fit that identity. Now they want an old school defense first team with BScott. but again they failed to build that type of roster.
A coach can't completely change a roster to play a certain way. The roster has to fit the style.
Was not a fan of Scott's PR fluff honestly. Sounded like he was just saying he will do the the opposite of D'Antoni to build support, regardless of whether or not it was a sound idea.
Rugged and old school defensive team sounds nice until you realize the roster does not fit that at all. Don't be stubborn and do whats best for the team you have. The FO made the same mistake with D'Antoni because they wanted a Showtime team, yet they did not build the roster properly to fit that identity. Now they want an old school defense first team with BScott. but again they failed to build that type of roster.
A coach can't completely change a roster to play a certain way. The roster has to fit the style.
How long will it take Byron to try Ed Davis in the starting lineup alongside Lin, barring injury?
fiendishoc, thanks for a good article. Hopefully Byron adjust and start Davis for a first move. I actually didn't realize your line about starting Davis until I finished typing my previous sentence. We can only wait ...
Depends on whether "adjustments" are considered old-school.
I like the davis/jhill combo. Byron should start with it. Davis is a better rim protector and roller suited at c (he should b starting anyway) and hills 15 ft jumper is money, not to mention a better rebounder and defender than boozer. Sacre and Boozer off the bench.
When B.Scott was buying into the lakers he had no choice, his dream finally came true. Nothing, was going to stop him from signing up, even though he knew he was choosing the apple laced with poison....
My question for everyone is....At what point do the lakers put all the blame on B.S. and fire him? At 4-17 or 8-33? Poor Byron, this dream never had a chance...
Byron isn't getting fired until probably 2016 when Kobe's contract is up. He was brought a nostalgic caretaker for Kobe. I love Scott but not so enthused by his basketball Xs and Os. But they'll let him stay for 2 years at the least. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
There was a lot of discussion in this thread as to whether any coach, even Phil or Pop, could make this a playoff roster. Probably not. But last night proved that scheme adjustments and adapting some 21st century philosophy can at least make this team competitive and fun to watch. Good job, Byron.
We will continue to be bad on D, which is a personnel handicap we simply cannot overcome. But all I can ask for is to be fun to watch on offense, which this roster should be capable of doing.
When you accept that the FO has decided to give Kobe a respectable send-off and doesn't want to entirely blow things up, Byron doesn't seem so bad. I would've preferred a younger coach to groom for the future, but if we're not a contender anyway the next two years (though hopefully we'll be back in the playoffs next year), it's not like it will hurt too much to keep him around for the duration of Kobe's extension. It's probably gonna help this year if he keeps the win total down...
how long does Byron realize that his no 3 offense sucks? i mean, he's been humiliated in front of offenses that rely on 3s... yet still stubbornly sticks with his stupid offense??? _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
how long does Byron realize that his no 3 offense sucks? i mean, he's been humiliated in front of offenses that rely on 3s... yet still stubbornly sticks with his stupid offense???
When you accept that the FO has decided to give Kobe a respectable send-off and doesn't want to entirely blow things up, Byron doesn't seem so bad. I would've preferred a younger coach to groom for the future, but if we're not a contender anyway the next two years (though hopefully we'll be back in the playoffs next year), it's not like it will hurt too much to keep him around for the duration of Kobe's extension. It's probably gonna help this year if he keeps the win total down...
The person they're grooming for the future is sitting next to Byron on the bench. Madsen is going to be coaching the Lakers one day. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime."
how long does Byron realize that his no 3 offense sucks? i mean, he's been humiliated in front of offenses that rely on 3s... yet still stubbornly sticks with his stupid offense???
We have no three point shooters.
People are just looking for someone to blame . Its the front office not Scott. Even with the 3 last year, we were freaking terrible. There lies just 1 problem, there is no firepower on the team outside of Kobe.
Who on the team thats active can take the game over ? Yeah, thats correct. No one. There is NOTHING that Byron or the players can do to start winning consistently. The team lacks talent. Its like a Pinto vs a Dodge Viper, its just not gonna happen.
how long does Byron realize that his no 3 offense sucks? i mean, he's been humiliated in front of offenses that rely on 3s... yet still stubbornly sticks with his stupid offense???
We have no three point shooters.
Exactly, we don't have a 3 point specialist, at least last year we had Jodie Meeks. When Kelly and Young gets back into the mix I think we'll be taking more 3's. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime."
Isn't this guy supposed to be a "defensive" coach? We look worse than last year.
How do you purpose they play defense when they dont have the talent to play at a high level for 48 minutes?
Its NOT the coach! Just like Its not D'Antoni last year (but he still sucks).
NO NO NO TALENT
You can have John Wooden as head coach, with Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, Coach K, and Bobby Knight as assistants, this team is still going to suck. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime."
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