Why the Princeton doesn't work in the NBA from the creator

LoyalLakerfan44 · Star Player Joined: 09 Jun 2010 Posts: 3219

Old article but interesting reading from the horses' mouth;
http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2013/04/14/pete-carills-advice-to-eddie-jordan-forget-about-the-princeton-offense/

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fiendishoc · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:08 am Post subject:

Yeah, it's more like a Princeton set here and there. Not enough to really call an "offense". Speaking of Carril- here's his advice to David Blatt:

bandiger · Franchise Player Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Posts: 12555

Well by reading the article, this roster doesn't have the 3 bedrock prerequisites to even run the system.

1) A big that can pass and score effectively
2) 3 point shooters
3) Lots of high IQ BB players.

I think Scott had already noticed that once he saw this roster and his first week with them.

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brunel · Starting Rotation Joined: 16 Oct 2014 Posts: 518

It's not going to work because there's only one post player who's going to command any kind of attention from the defense--Kobe. And when he gets the ball and goes to work, everyone stands around with no attention to spacing. None of them can hit a 3 pt shot and they're afraid to move and draw their defender into Kobe, so they just mill around just inside the 3pt line watching Kobe. It's painful to watch.

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venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:46 am Post subject:

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fiendishoc · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:38 am Post subject:

To be fair, the Princeton does work to some extent. Almost every team in the league has incorporated its principles and part of its sets in their playbooks, though usually in a distilled form. However, even with Carril on his staff, Rick Adelman never ran the full Princeton ("You never go full Princeton!"

).

greenfrog · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:39 am Post subject:

fiendishoc · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:42 am Post subject:

The Spurs actually put a lot of effort into putting Parker in a position to create. It's usually a mixture of things, like starting with a zipper cut from the SG to get the ball at the top of the key, which frees up Parker to run off 2-3 screens to get a running start and space when he gets the ball back. All the screens have to be in sync, and the team has several counters for when the other team tries to take away certain lanes. It would be tough for the coaching staff to just turn around install something similar on the fly, though at this point, I doubt they will have much to lose.

venturalakersfan · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:43 am Post subject:

Kobe can cut for easy buckets or spot up for a jumper. He would be very effective in that type of offense.
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Gimme_the_rock · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:46 am Post subject:

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fiendishoc · Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 10:52 am Post subject:

The Suns have two primary ballhandlers and were still able to run a modern motion offense very effectively. Perhaps that could be the template. But they also had decent stretch fours.