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Should Lin be our starting PG ? |
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jlinfan Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:02 pm Post subject: [POLL] Should Lin be our starting PG? |
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I don't think there is any debate who is the best PG on our team.
So far, based on reps with first unit and Scott's comments since training camp opened (ex. when Nash went down Scott mentioned either Lin or Price would replace him) all signs point to Lin as 6th man.
I understand that the coaching staff are tops in their field which means there is no debate who are more knowledgeable when it comes to basketball when compared to LG.
Yes, as humans we can always rationalize anything if we really wanted to.
One argument for Lin moving to 6th man is that he can control the second unit. Another might be that Lin is not in the long term plans.
However, you could make the same arguments for moving Nash to the bench. As well, Lin's game is similar ( concede they are not identical ) to Nash's game, and no one was debating that he was a bad fit next to Kobe.
I am curious to what LG thinks on this topic, and hence a new thread. My guess, LG will vote 95% for YES (I voted YES).
If I am right, why the disconnect between LG and the guys that get paid to do this for a living? |
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Lakers_Jester Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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I voted yes. For obvious reasons. Now do one for ed davis lol. |
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ringfinger Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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[POST] Yes. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
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crackadon Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
this guy gets it |
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ADA32 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
Totally agree! |
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13th Man Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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Reflexx wrote: | I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
Some good logic here. I'm still holding out hope for Nash to come back to be a solid backup pg (that's if his ego can take the hit). |
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greenfrog Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think you get more out of him if you bring him off the bench with uptempo players. Especially if Davis is coming off the bench it's a no-brainer. |
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bfpri Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: Re: [POLL] Should Lin be our starting PG? |
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jlinfan wrote: | I don't think there is any debate who is the best PG on our team.
So far, based on reps with first unit and Scott's comments since training camp opened (ex. when Nash went down Scott mentioned either Lin or Price would replace him) all signs point to Lin as 6th man.
I understand that the coaching staff are tops in their field which means there is no debate who are more knowledgeable when it comes to basketball when compared to LG.
Yes, as humans we can always rationalize anything if we really wanted to.
One argument for Lin moving to 6th man is that he can control the second unit. Another might be that Lin is not in the long term plans.
However, you could make the same arguments for moving Nash to the bench. As well, Lin's game is similar ( concede they are not identical ) to Nash's game, and no one was debating that he was a bad fit next to Kobe.
I am curious to what LG thinks on this topic, and hence a new thread. My guess, LG will vote 95% for YES (I voted YES).
If I am right, why the disconnect between LG and the guys that get paid to do this for a living? |
he probably won't be the starting PG
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LAKERMIKE2 Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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There shouldn't be any question on who should start @ PG for this team! Why not keep it simple & consistent...
Lin, cause he's capable, younger, healthier & has more upside.
Nash if & when ready can come off the bench & lead the 2nd unit, CASE CLOSED...
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13th Man Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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LAKERMIKE2 wrote: | There shouldn't be any question on who should start @ PG for this team! Why not keep it simple & consistent...
Lin, cause he's capable, younger, healthier & has more upside.
Nash if & when ready can come off the bench & lead the 2nd unit, CASE CLOSED...
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Agreed. No need to get cute and creative, it's not like this team has an abundance of talent to spread the wealth around. |
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gold555 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 5:44 pm Post subject: Why not start him with many reasons? |
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Even when Nash is healthy, I still vote Lin start.
If you care about the future plan as well, why not let Lin
takes the control, specially the start line, because the end of game
most of us agree put Lin in. But you do not let him play with starters.
Another thing, he will play major minutes then why he cannot be started?
As matter of respect, we all know starting a player means something.
Why some of you do not want to give?
There are a few of guys mentioned about Lin's game, "Lin brings a system!",
well said! More of you keep excited by LinDavis P&R, which is what we like
to entertain and hopefully and positively win games. We know there chemistry is counted, but it needs the play. So you do not want Lin has more chemistry with starters?
Although I also agree some of reasons of why Lin benched is benefit us more. But you do not have to not start him. Think twice plz. You do not have to bench him to gain all those benefits.... |
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cgambino123 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Who cares if Lakersground wants him as a starter. He should be the starter. Everyone in LA thinks so. Magic thinks so. But Scott won't do it. For whatever reason. Starting Price and even Ellington over him just proves that |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Lin should start but you never know with Byron, he seems to like Price because of his defense. |
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Lakers 4 eva Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Dave20 wrote: | Lin should start but you never know with Byron, he seems to like Price because of his defense. |
Nah I don't think Byron's that dumb. The bench unit needs a PG who can create offense. if Price played with the bench unit right now, they would be so terrible. There will be lots of standing around since he can't really penetrate that well. When Nick Young gets back, along with Xavier, then Price can run with the bench since Young pretty much will do the scoring on the perimeter. |
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Vin Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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No doubt about that. Lin has to start. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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13th Man wrote: | Reflexx wrote: | I think Byron will have Lin start early in the season, if not by game 1. There are some reasons why Lin is on the bench at the moment.
1. No experience with starting unit on practice
2. Coming back from a week off. Need to adjust to speed of the game again
3. Ease him back
4. With Young out, bench is anemic on scoring
5. To get a read on guys like Randle, it's best to have a good PG on the floor |
Some good logic here. I'm still holding out hope for Nash to come back to be a solid backup pg (that's if his ego can take the hit). |
I'm sure his ego won't be an issue. The guy loves basketball. I think he's at the point right now that he truly cherishes any time he gets to be out there on the floor in an NBA game.
He knows that his time is short. He wants to soak it all in before it's over. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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greenfrog wrote: | I think you get more out of him if you bring him off the bench with uptempo players. Especially if Davis is coming off the bench it's a no-brainer. |
Yeah... he does seem to bring out the best in Davis. Though I do hope that before game 20, we see Davis starting over Hill. That would probably also mean Lin would start because they make a pretty awesome duo.
Kobe wasn't too shabby with Davis too. P&R with Kobe/Davis and Lin/Davis and Kobe/Boozer and Lin/Boozer... head spinning. That could give teams fits. |
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Reflexx Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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cgambino123 wrote: | Who cares if Lakersground wants him as a starter. He should be the starter. Everyone in LA thinks so. Magic thinks so. But Scott won't do it. For whatever reason. Starting Price and even Ellington over him just proves that |
I think people may be reading too much into Byron not starting Lin.
Right now, he's trying to get a read on a few guys. He needs a playmaker on the floor when those guys are in the game. Lin has experience playing with them in practice and he is able to control the offense.
If you stuck Price with the second unit right now it would look pretty ugly. |
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Mini Mamba Star Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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It doesn't matter if Lin starts or not. As long as he plays starters minutes and finishes games that's all that matters. |
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sammo Sixth Man
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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whatever gets lin the most playing time with davis. havent seen anything exciting with lin-hill. |
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Runway8 Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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Lin should start, but he needs to tighten up his dribble when engaging in those pick and rolls and waiting in no mans land for the double team. I cringe every time, it's always exposed and ripe for the picking. Got to improve those handles, watch CP3 tapes.
Other than that, I love his chemistry with Davis, and how he can take the ball to the rack. |
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lakersken80 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Runway8 wrote: | Lin should start, but he needs to tighten up his dribble when engaging in those pick and rolls and waiting in no mans land for the double team. I cringe every time, it's always exposed and ripe for the picking. Got to improve those handles, watch CP3 tapes.
Other than that, I love his chemistry with Davis, and how he can take the ball to the rack. |
Yeah, he tends to get trapped a lot....he needs to fix that part of his game. |
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Lakers_Jester Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks magic. Told u the media would crucify byron if he doesn't start lin. Doesn't mean byron will comply but it'll definitely pressure him. Kobes post game comments on lin after the suns game was also very helpful for the lin starting cause. |
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