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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:25 am Post subject: |
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Do I have this correct, the Clippers will need to finish between the 5th and 9th best record in the league for us to get their 2nd rounder? My #1 pursuit in the offseason would be Asik. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:28 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Do I have this correct, the Clippers will need to finish between the 5th and 9th best record in the league for us to get their 2nd rounder? My #1 pursuit in the offseason would be Asik. |
Pelicans will love him and be able to offer him a 5 year deal with higher raises imo. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:30 am Post subject: |
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What do you guys think it would take for us to get Henson from Mil? |
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lukewaltonsdad Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:31 am Post subject: |
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Well, if we can get a Center in free agency, start scouting and use Houston pick to draft one... |
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qiantom Starting Rotation
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:32 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Do I have this correct, the Clippers will need to finish between the 5th and 9th best record in the league for us to get their 2nd rounder? My #1 pursuit in the offseason would be Asik. |
Pelicans will love him and be able to offer him a 5 year deal with higher raises imo. |
Unless he underperforms this season, it is difficult to see why Pelicans would let him go. The Davis/Asik combo seems too good to break up. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:33 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Do I have this correct, the Clippers will need to finish between the 5th and 9th best record in the league for us to get their 2nd rounder? My #1 pursuit in the offseason would be Asik. |
Pelicans will love him and be able to offer him a 5 year deal with higher raises imo. |
That is where we will need to sell the sunshine over the rain. I would be surprised if the Pelicans gave him a raise, but you never know. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Call me crazy but I think I would try a Nash for Ilyasova + Henson trade.
Why does Mil do it? Get out of Ilyasova's contract. Henson isn't critical to them since they have Sanders and Zaza.
Why does LA do it? If they are intrigued by Henson as a center prospect (he is a UNC alum LOL), and Henson is cheap. Sure Ilyasova is on a turrible contract, but we are thin at the 3 and his K is an expiring next year. There's a chance he could have a resurgence (slim lol). If he continues to stink they could try to buy him out. |
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GonzagaAlum Star Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:00 am Post subject: |
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Greg Monroe is a durable big... not playing the position he should (center)... on a team overstacked with overlapping talent (DTown)... and he's young... still 4-5 years away from a likely prime.
I'm a huge fan of signing Greg Monroe.
Personally...
Monroe
Lin
Maybe Ed Davis (lets see if he can be Ibakaish...)
Possibly Green
Would be fine with me for Kobe's last year...
Then likely the Lakers might have 2 Max's the following off season when Kobe's contract is no longer. _________________ How can I get a copy of a Laker game played on Sunday, March 11, 2001 Sonics/Lakers? If you know PM me please
I would be willing to pay you for it. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:03 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Do I have this correct, the Clippers will need to finish between the 5th and 9th best record in the league for us to get their 2nd rounder? My #1 pursuit in the offseason would be Asik. |
Pelicans will love him and be able to offer him a 5 year deal with higher raises imo. |
That is where we will need to sell the sunshine over the rain. I would be surprised if the Pelicans gave him a raise, but you never know. |
Obviously they want to keep davis and if he likes Asik who will take the pounding at center he will be kept. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:10 am Post subject: |
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Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Jahil okafor would be nice. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Wonder if Utah would be dumb enough to trade Gobert? LOL
Offer them Kelly and Houston's 1st |
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Dave20 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:43 am Post subject: |
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Deandre Jordan/WCS or Monroe/WCS are the most likely options at C next year. Gobert and Henson aren't getting traded, both are apart of their teams future at C. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:46 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Asik will be available, the Lakers would just have to oversell the competition. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 10:51 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Asik will be available, the Lakers would just have to oversell the competition. |
And if Pelicans offer a 5th year? Are we going to offer a max to a guy like Asik? I hope not. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:16 am Post subject: |
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If you want a defensive center whom could anchor a defense why don't you just keep Ed Davis long term?
Why keep searching for the answer when its in plain sight?
If Ed Davis pans out this year or even takes the starting spot from Hill he's the guy you'll want to pay this off-season and already has chemistry with Randle. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 11:25 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | If you want a defensive center whom could anchor a defense why don't you just keep Ed Davis long term?
Why keep searching for the answer when its in plain sight?
If Ed Davis pans out this year or even takes the starting spot from Hill he's the guy you'll want to pay this off-season and already has chemistry with Randle. |
he needs to play a full yr and get mins around 20-25mins before committing to him |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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I'm leaning towards aggressively pursuing one of these cheap developing centers if possible. Because you can combine them with re-signing Davis and potentially have rim protection all game long.
I'd much prefer having
Henson/Davis
Gobert/Davis
Dieng/Davis
etc. for the cost of just Asik, Jordan, Gasol by themselves.
Obviously MUCH easier said than done, but that's what I'd be shooting for |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | I'm leaning towards aggressively pursuing one of these cheap developing centers if possible. Because you can combine them with re-signing Davis and potentially have rim protection all game long.
I'd much prefer having
Henson/Davis
Gobert/Davis
Dieng/Davis
etc. for the cost of just Asik, Jordan, Gasol by themselves.
Obviously MUCH easier said than done, but that's what I'd be shooting for |
Gobert and dieng are pretty much impossible to obtain with our assets.
Henson is inconsistent but a good backup big. Not necessarily impactful front court players. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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22 wrote: | I'm leaning towards aggressively pursuing one of these cheap developing centers if possible. Because you can combine them with re-signing Davis and potentially have rim protection all game long.
I'd much prefer having
Henson/Davis
Gobert/Davis
Dieng/Davis
etc. for the cost of just Asik, Jordan, Gasol by themselves.
Obviously MUCH easier said than done, but that's what I'd be shooting for |
Dieng is untouchable i think |
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22 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | 22 wrote: | I'm leaning towards aggressively pursuing one of these cheap developing centers if possible. Because you can combine them with re-signing Davis and potentially have rim protection all game long.
I'd much prefer having
Henson/Davis
Gobert/Davis
Dieng/Davis
etc. for the cost of just Asik, Jordan, Gasol by themselves.
Obviously MUCH easier said than done, but that's what I'd be shooting for |
Dieng is untouchable i think |
Pretty much everyone in my post will be nearly impossible for us to get except for maybe Henson lol. Even Gasol, Jordan, and Asik are long shots. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Asik will be available, the Lakers would just have to oversell the competition. |
And if Pelicans offer a 5th year? Are we going to offer a max to a guy like Asik? I hope not. |
A good defensive center is worth $16 mil a season. I will believe NO will offer the max when I see it, that isn't their style. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | If you want a defensive center whom could anchor a defense why don't you just keep Ed Davis long term?
Why keep searching for the answer when its in plain sight?
If Ed Davis pans out this year or even takes the starting spot from Hill he's the guy you'll want to pay this off-season and already has chemistry with Randle. |
Davis has never played 20 mpg, he is an unknown at this point. Though things would be easier if he works out. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Asik will be available, the Lakers would just have to oversell the competition. |
And if Pelicans offer a 5th year? Are we going to offer a max to a guy like Asik? I hope not. |
A good defensive center is worth $16 mil a season. I will believe NO will offer the max when I see it, that isn't their style. |
You would seriously pay Asik $16m? Whoa.
Again if Davis wants him they will keep him. If Asik sucks then we probably don't have to overpay. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2014 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Jim99187 wrote: | Asik wont be available as yinoma said it perfect.
Guys i want to pair with Randle:
Option 1: Gobert
Option 2: Henson
Option 3: Séraphin |
Asik will be available, the Lakers would just have to oversell the competition. |
And if Pelicans offer a 5th year? Are we going to offer a max to a guy like Asik? I hope not. |
A good defensive center is worth $16 mil a season. I will believe NO will offer the max when I see it, that isn't their style. |
You would seriously pay Asik $16m? Whoa.
Again if Davis wants him they will keep him. If Asik sucks then we probably don't have to overpay. |
I agree that's over paying. But both of you are willing to give $15M to Hibbert so what's the difference? lol |
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