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Kobe2Clark
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 Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 7:51 pm Post subject: Is Jeremy Lin the best PG we've have since NVE? |
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It's a huge indictment on the FO and a testament to Kobe's versatility but I think it's true.
Kid has looked great though. He's much more impressive when not relegated to a spot-up shooter
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KobeDwightPauStevie
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm experiencing deja vu now! |
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pio2u
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| here we go again |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| pio2u wrote: | | here we go again |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| I like lin too but it's not like we've had much starting pg's to compare him to. |
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ghostowl
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| Rivershow wrote: | | I like lin too but it's not like we've had much starting pg's to compare him to. |
"You forgot Price" - Byron Scott |
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psy123321123
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:55 pm Post subject: |
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| ghostowl wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | I like lin too but it's not like we've had much starting pg's to compare him to. |
"You forgot Price" - Byron Scott |
I don't get it |
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sammo
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| jeremy lin is definitely a great pick up, in terms of what he gives on court and what he gives the team in terms of financial flexibility going forward. probably the most underrated contract deals this year. |
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Jim99187
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| i like the fact that he attacks like 100% of the time |
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The Shadow King
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Chris Paul.
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cheesysapien
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| sammo wrote: | | jeremy lin is definitely a great pick up, in terms of what he gives on court and what he gives the team in terms of financial flexibility going forward. probably the most underrated contract deals this year. |
I agree Sammo. I also think Lin will be one of the key pieces for us to move forward with.
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Hard_Butter
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| cheesysapien wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | jeremy lin is definitely a great pick up, in terms of what he gives on court and what he gives the team in terms of financial flexibility going forward. probably the most underrated contract deals this year. |
I agree Sammo. I also think Lin will be one of the key pieces for us to move forward with. |
And to think, we got him for basically nothing. Oh, we also got a 1st rounder too. Thanks, Morey!
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K28
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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Best since NVE? Hard to say. Consider the competition.
Derek Fisher
Derek Harper
Ron Harper
Lindsay Hunter
Ty Lue
Gary Payton
Sucky Crapkins
Tierre Brown
Smush
Dribbles
Sessions
Farmar
Marshall
He's pretty good....better than most of the guys on this list. |
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cheesysapien
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| EchoZulu wrote: | | cheesysapien wrote: | | sammo wrote: | | jeremy lin is definitely a great pick up, in terms of what he gives on court and what he gives the team in terms of financial flexibility going forward. probably the most underrated contract deals this year. |
I agree Sammo. I also think Lin will be one of the key pieces for us to move forward with. |
And to think, we got him for basically nothing. Oh, we also got a 1st rounder too. Thanks, Morey! |
We really should give the FO credit on this trade. Here is more details about the trade http://fansided.com/2014/10/07/los-angeles-lakers-almost-passed-jeremy-lin-trade/
ETA: It also worked out for Lin. I think he could not have ended at a better place ...
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Oliver Reed
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| No. Since Tierre Brown. |
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Dave20
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| With the 33+ minutes Lin is about to get with all the injuries, he's going to put up some good numbers. Lin is going to lead the team in minutes and the ball will be in his hands a lot, I think he'll avg 17/7 this year. |
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cheesysapien
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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"Jeremy is a lot faster than I thought he was gonna be" - Kobe pregame interview. He also praised Jeremy's defensive effort
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pjiddy
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Offense looked really good with him running the offense and GUYS SHOOTING/MAKING THREE POINTERS
I have the same concerns as the two previous seasons: We have the offense that Lin could run and run pretty well--an MDA style offense, and then the offense that Kobe (last season it was Pau, season before it was 5 different offenses) and Byron will want to run. Which will be ISO heavy and with less ball movement.
It looked good tonight. I'm cautiously optimistic. |
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DJ Slik
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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i dunno....he couldn't crack the starting lineup with a healthy ronnie price  |
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rock0100
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| DJ Slik wrote: | | i dunno....he couldn't crack the starting lineup with a healthy ronnie price |
He is showing to be better than Price. Ronnie is an active defender though.
Sessions was good. Time will tell if Lin is better. I am thinking yes. Gary Peyton was really good though. Carried our team for a while when everyone else was hurt. He was at the end of his career but still very good. |
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LakerLand247
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| kray28_ wrote: | Best since NVE? Hard to say. Consider the competition.
Derek Fisher -system PG. More of a undersize SG role in the triangle.
Derek Harper - was role player and past his prime - provided veteran leadership
Ron Harper - was role player and past his prime - help facilitate the triangle offense
Lindsay Hunter - Past his prime
Ty Lue - his coming out party was during the finals when he guarded Iverson. Went downhill after that.
Gary Payton - was past his prime by the time he became a Laker. He went to chase a ring here. Sulking the whole time
Sucky Crapkins - a chucker, nothing more
Tierre Brown - was in the NBA thanks to Kobe's greatness. Belonged in the D-League.
Smush - aka "the grim reaper". Same as above.
Dribbles - another D-Leaguer. Can't shoot.
Sessions - career back-up PG. He had a chance here in LA but bolted for the $$
Farmar - "ears" Farmar had the body of a PG but a scorer's mentality. Not a true PG
Marshall - Great court vision but cannot shoot a pea in the ocean.
He's pretty good....better than most of the guys on this list. |
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Steve Nash - He was past his prime and should have retired after he injured his Tibia bone. He never really had a chance to play.
Sedale "the Thief" Threat - He was signed in the summer of 1991 to help Magic with the PG duties and provide some outside shooting. I don't recall if Sedale ever had a chance to play with Magic. Sedale was a great outside shooter, excellent in steals, decent play maker.
Personally, from what I've seen him this pre-season Lin has a chance to be on top of that list. Probably neck and neck with Nick the Quick in terms of over all talent. The one thing I remember from Nick the Quick was he was pretty clutch in the 4th quarter (before the Kobe era). Again, this all from memory, just my 2cents.
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LeBronte Jest
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| psy123321123 wrote: | | ghostowl wrote: | | Rivershow wrote: | | I like lin too but it's not like we've had much starting pg's to compare him to. |
"You forgot Price" - Byron Scott |
I don't get it |
Reminded me of G.W.Bush saying "You forgot Poland" when he was talking about invading Iraq, lol (referring to the coalition of the willing). Not sure if that was the joke though.  |
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Cancun Van Exel
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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My rankings since NVE:
Payton
Lin/Sessions
Nash (for 5 games + 1 game vs. Philly last year )
Farmar
Marshall
Lue
RANDOM SCRUBS
Sucky Crabcakes
(i didnt consider Fish. he was not a playmaker at all and the leagues worst finisher in the paint.. not very impressive as a true "PG")
If Threatt was eligible to be ranked i'd have him #2. I remember him going for i think 42 one night for LA. I think it may have been in NYC. He was a very underrated scorer.
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Cancun Van Exel
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| LakerLand247 wrote: | | kray28_ wrote: | Best since NVE? Hard to say. Consider the competition.
Derek Fisher -system PG. More of a undersize SG role in the triangle.
Derek Harper - was role player and past his prime - provided veteran leadership
Ron Harper - was role player and past his prime - help facilitate the triangle offense
Lindsay Hunter - Past his prime
Ty Lue - his coming out party was during the finals when he guarded Iverson. Went downhill after that.
Gary Payton - was past his prime by the time he became a Laker. He went to chase a ring here.
Sucky Crapkins - a chucker, nothing more
Tierre Brown - was in the NBA thanks to Kobe's greatness. Belonged in the D-League.
Smush - aka "the grim reaper". Same as above.
Dribbles - another D-Leaguer. Can't shoot.
Sessions - career back-up PG. He had a chance here in LA but bolted for the $$
Farmar - "ears" Farmar had the body of a PG but a scorer's mentality. Not a true PG
Marshall - Great court vision but cannot shoot a pea in the ocean.
He's pretty good....better than most of the guys on this list. |
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Steve Nash - He was past his prime and should have retired after he injured his Tibia bone. He never really had a chance to play.
Sedale "the Thief" Threat - He was signed in the summer of 1991 to help Magic with the PG duties and provide some outside shooting. I don't recall if Sedale ever had a chance to play with Magic. Sedale was a great outside shooter, excellent in steals, decent play maker.
Personally, from what I've seen him this pre-season Lin has a chance to be on top of that list. Probably neck and neck with Nick the Quick in terms of over all talent. The one thing I remember from Nick the Quick was he was pretty clutch in the 4th quarter (before the Kobe era). Again, this all from memory, just my 2cents. |
From wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedale_Threatt
| Quote: | Threatt was expected to play a backup role to Magic Johnson. However when Johnson retired due to his infection with HIV, Threatt became the starting point guard. Threatt led the Lakers in assists, steals and minutes played each of his first two seasons with the Lakers. In 1992-93 he became the second player in Laker franchise history (joining Magic Johnson) to lead the Lakers in scoring (15.1), assists (6.9) and steals (1.7.)
He scored a career high 42 points against the New York Knicks on 03/10/92 and scored a career playoff high 35 points in Game 1 of the 1993 Western Conference Quarter Finals against the Phoenix Suns. He retired from the league following the 1996-97 season, and later went on to play in France, Switzerland, and for Gymnastikos S. Larissas, in Greece. |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 11:35 pm Post subject: |
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| DJ Slik wrote: | | i dunno....he couldn't crack the starting lineup with a healthy ronnie price |
I fail to see the reasoning, have you seen the numbers for the entire preseason for all of the remaining Guards? Ronnie Price can't hold a candle to Lin. |
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