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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!


no no no... the Staples Center Lead Janitor will get the start
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:28 pm    Post subject:

although it is terrible ronnie is injured, its good that it was him and not jeremy or this team would officially be done.

hoping for a quick recovery.
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kimboviper wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Clarkson

Mom is Filipina.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject:

kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


You're not off to a good start around here.
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Clarkson

Mom is Filipina.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 1:57 pm    Post subject:

kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
cgambino123 wrote:
Who Takes The Blame wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Clarkson

Mom is Filipina.



Yea i know hes half flip

but in real life he looks black... thats my point


So maybe it just looks like he's gonna start.
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kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
cgambino123 wrote:
Who Takes The Blame wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jordan_Clarkson

Mom is Filipina.



Yea i know hes half flip

but in real life he looks black... thats my point


Well my kids are half asian/black so can you see how that may be construed as insulting?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:24 pm    Post subject:

Let's stick to talking about basketball, please. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 2:51 pm    Post subject:

Byron got a break, he won't have a decision to make.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:10 pm    Post subject:

Still no news. Not good?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:38 pm    Post subject:

GoldenThroat wrote:
kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
cgambino123 wrote:
Who Takes The Blame wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


You're not off to a good start around here.



Yea who are these people starting this crap about BS being a racist because he won't start LIN?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 6:48 pm    Post subject:

Team of the 80's wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
cgambino123 wrote:
Who Takes The Blame wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


You're not off to a good start around here.



Yea who are these people starting this crap about BS being a racist because he won't start LIN?


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Team of the 80's wrote:
GoldenThroat wrote:
kimboviper wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
DJ Slik wrote:
cgambino123 wrote:
Who Takes The Blame wrote:
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Ronnie Price may not play in Tuesday's opener meaning rookie Jordan Clarkson may get an expanded role and more minutes #LakeShow






Not sure if credible but he does post news about the Lakers news.


If Ronnie can't go let's all congratulate Clarkson for his first career start!

LMFAO


But according to the "Scott is racist" crowd, Clarkson, who is half-Asian, wouldn't get a start either. It would be whomever is not injured starting next.



Yea cuz Clarkson looks REALLY asian


You're not off to a good start around here.



Yea who are these people starting this crap about BS being a racist because he won't start LIN?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:07 pm    Post subject:

Ronnie Price's FG and assist are not at NBA level.
He is too old to play consistent D in regular season.

In last 3 years, his stats is still regressing.
3PT 29.5%>25.6%>20.9%
FG 37.7%>32.5%>30.4%

If LAL is rebuilding, they should sign a young player instead.

It is unbelievable he is still in the league. He should play oversea.


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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.
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so where do our injuries currently stand?

Nash (out for season)
Swaggy (out for two months with ligament tear)
Price (?)
Xavier Henry (out indefinitely with knee issues. Off to Germany for Reginokine)


Who am I missing? Out of those listed, I think missing Nick hurts the most. Can't wait for him to get back to bolster the bench and take some of the offensive load off of Kobe and Lin.


Was wonder this myself.... guessing this is probably the roster for now:

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Lin   Clarkson   (Price- Out 3-5 Games?)      (DPE 4.8M-Steve Nash)   
Kobe    Ellington    (Henry- Out for ?)
Wesley    Smith      (Young- Out 17-18 Games?)
Boozer    Randle       (Kelly- Out for ?)
Davis   Hill       Sacre



Use the DPE for a SG/SF and ditch either Ellington or Smith?


Looks like Roscoe is gone.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/releases/141025waive_brown_smith?cid=TW


wow,, hella thin now... So, I guess either Kelly/Randle/Kobe at backup SF until Swaggy gets back and a lot of Clarkson until Price gets back....


I forgot about Kelly. Thanks. Man, first game of the season and our roster is already thinned out.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:20 pm    Post subject:

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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


It's on Kobe, not your eye test result.
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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


It's on Kobe, not your eye test result.

Please explain!
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jodeke wrote:
Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


The problem isn't who starts. With Swaggy out, Lin to me is our 2nd best player. He is also young. He can and should be playing close to 35 minutes a game. If he doesn't start, it would logistically be very hard to do that.

Besides, Young is coming back soon anyway to provide the bench some scoring. The starters need a play maker who can ease the burden on Kobe. Stagger Lin and Kobe's minutes, and play 2 PG with Lin and Price at times. But Lin needs to be the starter so we don't keep falling behind early.
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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


The problem isn't who starts. With Swaggy out, Lin to me is our 2nd best player. He is also young. He can and should be playing close to 35 minutes a game. If he doesn't start, it would logistically be very hard to do that.

Besides, Young is coming back soon anyway to provide the bench some scoring. The starters need a play maker who can ease the burden on Kobe. Stagger Lin and Kobe's minutes, and play 2 PG with Lin and Price at times. But Lin needs to be the starter so we don't keep falling behind early.

We're going to start the season with a depleted unit. I'd start Price and bring Lin off the bench. That option may have gone south. It's going to take Shaggy a minute to get his sea legs.

I can see Price and Lin playing together, Price 1 Lin, 2 Kobe 3 Davis 4 Hill 5.


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10/25/14 Ronnie Price PG Knee Questionable for start of season
10/23/14 Steve Nash PG Ankle Out for season
10/10/14 Jordan Clarkson PG Calf Probable for start of season
10/06/14 Nick Young SG Thumb Doubtful for start of season
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09/17/14 Kobe Bryant SG Knee Probable for start of season
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jodeke wrote:
Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


There is a thing called "staggering the minutes". The starting unit is already weak comparing to other WC teams. You really want the 2nd unit comes in when it has already down by double digits? Who else can facilitate/score other than Kobe? Or you want Kobe to shoulder all the offensive pressures which would cause his body breaking down sooner?

But its a moot point now since Price probably cant play in the opening game.
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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


There is a thing called "staggering the minutes". The starting unit is already weak comparing to other WC teams. You really want the 2nd unit comes in when it has already down by double digits? Who else can facilitate/score other than Kobe? Or you want Kobe to shoulder all the offensive pressures which would cause his body breaking down sooner?

But its a moot point now since Price probably cant play in the opening game.

Whose to say they'd be down double digits. The last two preseason games showed they're capable of staying close.

Scott is going to have to really coach to keep fresh legs and quality players on the floor. He's still looking for a starting unit.

He'll stagger Kobe's minutes between first and second units. When Shaggy gets his legs it will allow him to rest more.

Clarkson is showing promise. I have a little more faith in our team than many here on LG. I think/hope we'll be 500 or above after first 20 games.
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Price was playing well. I believe Scott's plan was to start him and bring Lin off the bench. If the starting unit could build a lead the second unit led by Lin could stay close, protect or forge a lead.

That would be a good rotation. Jeremy is a fire starter, brings energy. That's a good thing for a second unit.


There is a thing called "staggering the minutes". The starting unit is already weak comparing to other WC teams. You really want the 2nd unit comes in when it has already down by double digits? Who else can facilitate/score other than Kobe? Or you want Kobe to shoulder all the offensive pressures which would cause his body breaking down sooner?

But its a moot point now since Price probably cant play in the opening game.


amazingly that didn't happen. Because Price was able to disrupt and stay with some of the starting point guards.

Not to say Lin can't because Lin obviously can. But I think it had more to do with the fact that the bench is so rail thin at this moment with no Young, Kelly or X on it.

Byron believed in the bench if Jeremy was there that could push out leads or pressure the defense. Remember his ideal is to conserve the energy of the starters veterans like Boozer and Kobe. So when the bench is out there building on a lead it does that, or catching up it does that.

Now compare it to the other side. Assume the starting lineup that they build a 5 point lead or so. But the bench once Price comes in doesn't have chemistry with Davis and they can't run the pick and roll, he isn't out there to score, but there's no Kobe on the block and no Boozer in the post and the offense of the bench becomes stagnant or thrown to Clarkson to throw up a desperation shot cause the offense goes nowhere.

You know.. exactly what happened against Golden State....


So when he found a method that Price can at least pester starting point guard and we can keep the pace slow and when he also saw that Lin could run with the bench and put real pressure on a teams second string obviously he felt that Lin and Davis and their combination were an advantage over other teams, and is anyone gonna disagree with the advantage they had?


This team never looked better than it did when Lin and Davis were our one two punch off the bench. When Price was leading the bench it was Clarkson that had to launch last second shots and the bench offense never got moving. Lin can get it moving as well as play the majority of the third after halftime and finish the game.

That was the role he had and it worked considering the makeup of our starting and bench unit at least till we get some of our bench weapons back. If some people had just let go of their pride they'd have realized that.

And now we don't even have that. It ain't about that Lin is so great that he deserves to start, but that our bench is so short that it NEEDS Lin's scoring and playmaking to get going and to get the other players on it going to hit a rhythm, otherwise starters are gonna have to come in earlier than Byron would want cause momentum isn't built.


I can guarantee you that a bench of Price trying to facilitate and be playmaker to Davis and Randle is gonna be the unit that has the double digit leads built upon them more than a bench with Jeremy Lin playing the playmaker for Ed Davis and Julius Randle. Not because the second unit wouldn't have defense but there'd be no kind of offensive flow and the other team is gonna score at some point while the bench is in a drought because of it.

So sit down, take off the biased glasses and think for a moment... when our bench comes in.. if it's Price that's the leading point guard, where is the offense and playmaking gonna come from? Cause it's not coming from Price in that unit, I can tell you that much. Also remember that X, Kelly and Young are gone for now.

Then look at what Byron decided to do, and realize that it was probably the smartest choice he could make.
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