THey kind of did for a huge stretch. They were almost 10 games up and ended up 6 games behind the Dodgers. At one point they lost something like 20 out of 23 games and played barely 500 ball after that.
THey backed into the play offs and then played pretty well.
You know what the Giants have? A great HOFer Manager. You know what the Lakers have these past 3 years, retread coaches. Use some common sense, OP.
Common sense would tell you that not even Greg Popovic or Phil would be able to turn those Laker's rosters into contenders.
Ofcourse not it takes time to implement the system and build the roster to fit that system. Right now we are in a phase called revolving door coach period where Jimbo can't find a direction after destroying everything related to Phil.
The giants have a great Manager and they got extremely lucky with well timed pitching and hitting in the championship runs.
That's not luck when the same core has done it 3 out of 5 years...
Hypothetically if the Lakers somehow won it all this year, I think we would all agree we required a lot of luck. But some idiot would say that it wasn't luck, and that we won 3 out of 7 years. Sometimes bad teams win. Giants did it twice (I'll give them the first one). Their current team is not good, but they won. Luck is not a real thing to have but it's what you call it in hindsight when something happens against the probable.
Bad teams don't make the playoffs in baseball. It's not like basketball which allows more teams in. All of the teams in the baseball playoffs are good because making the playoffs in baseball is much harder. You either have to be a division champion or one of the two best non-division champions in the league.
That's like being a top 5 seed in the NBA. Will this Laker team even be a top 10 seed? I doubt it. Making a top 8 seed seems like a huge challenge.
The Giants were like a 4 or 5 seed that wins an NBA championship with experienced players that won championships in the past, which means they are not a typical 4 or 5 seed. In other words, they were better than their seeding. And even that analogy isn't perfect because the wild card teams have a better chance in baseball than the 4-8 seeds have in basketball.
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Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: Why I have hope that the Lakers will be the 2015 NBA Champions
circusmonkey wrote:
If a crappy team like the SF Giants can suck for 6 months and barely squeeze into the playoffs and just get on a extremely lucky streak riding on their one good player then maybe the Lakers could do the same.
Recipe for success: below average players, a frustrating season, injuries to our key players, everyone in the country to write us off b/c we just evidently suck, one good player, and LOTS OF PRAYER/LUCK. Sounds like we have what it takes!
I don't even have confidence that this team will come close to a .500 record. That's something the Giants accomplished easily.
And the Giants won 100 games (regular season and playoffs). That's not a crappy record.
If you don't have a top 2 seed in basketball (or maybe a top 3 seed in a tough conference) then your chances are terrible.
I'm pretty sure we're getting trolled with this thread though so maybe this should just get locked. I was assuming this thread was created before the season and just got bumped.
my hope is that Scott's system is so antiquated that other teams will not recognize its plain stupidity rendering them dumbfounded, lost and unable to react in a timely manner. _________________ "Now, if life is coffee, then the jobs, money & position in society are the cups. They are just tools to hold & contain life, but the quality of life doesn't change. Sometimes, by concentrating only on the cup, we fail to enjoy the coffee in it."
We won't be contenders until at least 2019. Even if we get the #1 pick and that player turns out to be great, it'll take him 3 years to have that kind of an impact. As long as Kobe is here, we won't win anything. Things will be better after he retires.
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