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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:30 pm    Post subject:

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1. Kemp is out of his prime and a horrible defender. Ramirez is the same.

2. We already have the best 1-2 in baseball.

3. Both the bullpen and back end of the rotation have improved. Especially the back end.


the problem we've been having the past two postseasons were lack of offense. we haven't addressed that yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:39 pm    Post subject:

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1. Kemp is out of his prime and a horrible defender. Ramirez is the same.

2. We already have the best 1-2 in baseball.

3. Both the bullpen and back end of the rotation have improved. Especially the back end.


the problem we've been having the past two postseasons were lack of offense. we haven't addressed that yet.


What?!?! Kendrick and Rollins may not have the power numbers but sure make up by getting on base and being good contact hitters. Factor in their defensive upgrades and it's a slight net positive for the team as a whole.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject:

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Michlake wrote:
1. Kemp is out of his prime and a horrible defender. Ramirez is the same.

2. We already have the best 1-2 in baseball.

3. Both the bullpen and back end of the rotation have improved. Especially the back end.


the problem we've been having the past two postseasons were lack of offense. we haven't addressed that yet.


What?!?! Kendrick and Rollins may not have the power numbers but sure make up by getting on base and being good contact hitters. Factor in their defensive upgrades and it's a slight net positive for the team as a whole.


Right. The defensive upgrades are not being mentioned enough. Also, the reason we lost last postseason was the bullpen. We've improved there, not made lateral moves. Literally every guy outside of Kenley was giving people heart attacks in October. Even if we haven't gotten big name set up men (if such a thing exists), there's been improvement.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject:

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just saw the news Shields signed with Padres, 4 year deal. so let me get this straight, we're on the edge of breaking through to W.S. and all we done this off season so far by our highly regarded new front office are:

1. losing two big bats still in their prime for a marginally better catcher offensively than AJ

2. not able to sign any front rotation starting pitcher(s)

3. made a bunch of lateral moves in bullpen and back end rotation starting pitcher

am i missing something here? we were this close to taste the W.S. and yet, they not only sit on their hands but weakening the team from last year.


Not only that but San Diego has gotten a whole lot better.
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just saw the news Shields signed with Padres, 4 year deal. so let me get this straight, we're on the edge of breaking through to W.S. and all we done this off season so far by our highly regarded new front office are:

1. losing two big bats still in their prime for a marginally better catcher offensively than AJ

2. not able to sign any front rotation starting pitcher(s)

3. made a bunch of lateral moves in bullpen and back end rotation starting pitcher

am i missing something here? we were this close to taste the W.S. and yet, they not only sit on their hands but weakening the team from last year.


Not only that but San Diego has gotten a whole lot better.


not really worry about our own division. while SD improved, SF has weaken a bit.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:49 pm    Post subject:

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just saw the news Shields signed with Padres, 4 year deal. so let me get this straight, we're on the edge of breaking through to W.S. and all we done this off season so far by our highly regarded new front office are:

1. losing two big bats still in their prime for a marginally better catcher offensively than AJ

2. not able to sign any front rotation starting pitcher(s)

3. made a bunch of lateral moves in bullpen and back end rotation starting pitcher

am i missing something here? we were this close to taste the W.S. and yet, they not only sit on their hands but weakening the team from last year.


Not only that but San Diego has gotten a whole lot better.


not really worry about our own division. while SD improved, SF has weaken a bit.


Not to mention, it's an even year. We should be good.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:50 pm    Post subject:

lol, The Dodgers got better with contact and defensive play. Saying they stand pat and did nothing is incorrect. People just want 30 plus HR hitters everywhere and it dont work that way, you need to get guys on base to create runs. While the Dodgers scored alot of runs like Big Mac said we left about a 100 runs on base that should have been RBI's for hitters. We were one of the if not the worst team with RISP. This hopefully fixes that.

We couldnt possibly have a worst bullpen then last year. We got Joc coming in and hopefully playing up to his hype. We also got Seagar getting a shot and i expect Julio Urias to be called up after the all star game sometime if he's tearing it up in the minors like he did. You just dont keep him down there if he's dominating. The Dodgers broght up Kershaw at a very young age and Urias is further along in his development then Kershaw was at the same age imo.

ITs goign to be a very exciting year, but the Padre's got alot better. They are making a run at it and it should be fun!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:54 pm    Post subject:

For anyone worried about the Padres signing Shields:

James Shields Can’t Solve The Biggest Padres Problem
by Mike Petriello - February 9, 2015

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/james-shields-cant-solve-the-biggest-padres-problem/

TL;DR: Their infield may be near the worst in baseball and Shields is projected to be their highest WAR guy at 2.5.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:30 pm    Post subject:

While I'm a big fan of Jamie Shields (went to high school with him and he was known as Jamie then), he lost both starts in the World Series, put the royals in a big hole in the wildcard play-in game and we had no trouble scoring off him when we played against him in July.

I wouldn't have minded having him in Dodger blue seeing he's a Hart High alum, but I hardly think he's worthy of the 'big game' James nickname and think the Dodgers will be fine
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:59 pm    Post subject:

clutch hitting and great bullpen. That is what you need to win titles. dodgers had neither this last year. Any decent pitcher will give you 6 innings in the playoffs. What happens in innings 7-9 is what wins those big games. I hope the dodgers have this the rest of the way
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 6:57 am    Post subject:

Here's part of a write up from Buster Olney on the Dodgers' offseason moves...

The Padres’ tidal wave of moves have advanced them from unwatchable to a team that we’ll all be paying attention to in 2015, because of the stature of the players involved. Matt Kemp, MVP runner-up. Two-time All-Star Justin Upton. All-Star catcher Derek Norris. And now All-Star James Shields, who started games in the World Series a few months ago.

In comparison to all of that, the moves made by the Dodgers -- the defending NL West champions, a team the Padres are chasing -- have been unsexy, about functionality. It’s as if the Padres have rolled out the swimsuit issue of MLB’s offseason, while L.A. has been improving the printing process.

The Dodgers have invested in roster infrastructure, in depth. L.A. won 94 games last season, overcoming problems with their defense and production in some corners of their roster. The Dodgers were a dynamic offensive team in the second half of last season, leading the NL in runs after the All-Star break last season, and it’s very possible that with Matt Kemp and Hanley Ramirez gone that Don Mattingly’s lineup won’t generate as many homers.

But L.A. has a chance for improvement in many other ways. As written here before, The Dodgers appear to have upgraded significantly at shortstop and second base with Jimmy Rollins and Howie Kendrick, and whatever combination Mattingly uses in center field and right field on a daily basis will likely be better than the defensive duo of Yasiel Puig in center and Kemp in right field, whether it be Joc Pederson in center and Puig in right or Chris Heisey and Puig.

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A.J. Ellis battled injuries last season and wound up hitting .191, and so the Dodgers’ front office looked to upgrade the offensive production of the team’s catchers, which ranked last in the NL. The switch-hitting Yasmani Grandal -- who popped 15 homers last year, with a .327 on-base percentage -- became the primary piece in the Matt Kemp trade, and L.A. is very likely to get more offense from this position than in 2014.

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The Dodgers got Hernandez as part of the deal in which they sent Dee Gordon and Haren to the Marlins, and as one evaluator said Monday, “This is someone who can really hit.” The 23-year-old Hernandez isn’t going to hit for big power, but in 98 games in the minors last season, he batted .319, and has popped 12 extra-base hits in his first 134 plate appearances in the big leagues. He can play second base, shortstop and center field, and he played well for Puerto Rico in the recently completed Caribbean Series.

Eduardo Perez managed Hernandez on the Puerto Rico team in the Caribbean Series. "I do see him as a player," Eduardo texted this morning. "His swing will work at the big league level -- it is level and stays in the zone a long time. He also has gap-to-gap power and he plays multiple defensive positions both in the infield and outfield. When I managed him in the Caribbean Series, he told me it didn't matter where I put him. He just wanted to play. The kid is a ballplayer."

Alex Cora sent along these thoughts about Hernandez: “Kike defensively is versatile, can play a solid second base, third base and left field. Can fill in at shortstop in case of an emergency. Good arm and good instincts. Better athlete than what he looks like. Can really turn the doubleplay from second base.

“He’s also versatile offensively. You can use him in different spots in the lineup and he will give you a quality at bat and be successful. A good fastball hitter who uses the gaps. Like every hitter with occasional power, he gets in trouble when he tries to drive the ball out of the park. His swing gets long and loopy and loses the head of the bat.”
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:15 pm    Post subject:

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Kenley Jansen today had surgery to remove a growth from a bone in his left foot. Recovery time estimated 8-12 weeks. http://atmlb.com/19urRl9


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:50 pm    Post subject:

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Kenley Jansen today had surgery to remove a growth from a bone in his left foot. Recovery time estimated 8-12 weeks. http://atmlb.com/19urRl9




Man this stinks, but on the bright side it will allow someone else to step up and we'll have a stronger pen when Kenley returns.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:47 pm    Post subject:

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lol, The Dodgers got better with contact and defensive play. Saying they stand pat and did nothing is incorrect. People just want 30 plus HR hitters everywhere and it dont work that way, you need to get guys on base to create runs. While the Dodgers scored alot of runs like Big Mac said we left about a 100 runs on base that should have been RBI's for hitters. We were one of the if not the worst team with RISP. This hopefully fixes that.

We couldnt possibly have a worst bullpen then last year. We got Joc coming in and hopefully playing up to his hype. We also got Seagar getting a shot and i expect Julio Urias to be called up after the all star game sometime if he's tearing it up in the minors like he did. You just dont keep him down there if he's dominating. The Dodgers broght up Kershaw at a very young age and Urias is further along in his development then Kershaw was at the same age imo.


ITs goign to be a very exciting year, but the Padre's got alot better. They are making a run at it and it should be fun!


Umm no..Kemp and Hanley are not only better power hitters but even better contact hitters than Kendrick and over-the-hill-Lollins. We lost 2 big heavy bats and have done nothing to replace them. Offence has been a major problem..why we lost the world series yes it was pitching but the runs never came through for us either..there was so much pressure on the Starter day in and day out. Run support was a disaster all year and in the playoffs and while our pitching and D has improved..our biggest weakness has gotten weaker
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:50 pm    Post subject:

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lol, The Dodgers got better with contact and defensive play. Saying they stand pat and did nothing is incorrect. People just want 30 plus HR hitters everywhere and it dont work that way, you need to get guys on base to create runs. While the Dodgers scored alot of runs like Big Mac said we left about a 100 runs on base that should have been RBI's for hitters. We were one of the if not the worst team with RISP. This hopefully fixes that.

We couldnt possibly have a worst bullpen then last year. We got Joc coming in and hopefully playing up to his hype. We also got Seagar getting a shot and i expect Julio Urias to be called up after the all star game sometime if he's tearing it up in the minors like he did. You just dont keep him down there if he's dominating. The Dodgers broght up Kershaw at a very young age and Urias is further along in his development then Kershaw was at the same age imo.


ITs goign to be a very exciting year, but the Padre's got alot better. They are making a run at it and it should be fun!


Umm no..Kemp and Hanley are not only better power hitters but even better contact hitters than Kendrick and over-the-hill-Lollins. We lost 2 big heavy bats and have done nothing to replace them. Offence has been a major problem..why we lost the world series yes it was pitching but the runs never came through for us either..there was so much pressure on the Starter day in and day out. Run support was a disaster all year and in the playoffs and while our pitching and D has improved..our biggest weakness has gotten weaker


Dodgers were 2nd in the NL in runs to Colorado. It was not a problem.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:54 pm    Post subject:

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lol, The Dodgers got better with contact and defensive play. Saying they stand pat and did nothing is incorrect. People just want 30 plus HR hitters everywhere and it dont work that way, you need to get guys on base to create runs. While the Dodgers scored alot of runs like Big Mac said we left about a 100 runs on base that should have been RBI's for hitters. We were one of the if not the worst team with RISP. This hopefully fixes that.

We couldnt possibly have a worst bullpen then last year. We got Joc coming in and hopefully playing up to his hype. We also got Seagar getting a shot and i expect Julio Urias to be called up after the all star game sometime if he's tearing it up in the minors like he did. You just dont keep him down there if he's dominating. The Dodgers broght up Kershaw at a very young age and Urias is further along in his development then Kershaw was at the same age imo.


ITs goign to be a very exciting year, but the Padre's got alot better. They are making a run at it and it should be fun!


Umm no..Kemp and Hanley are not only better power hitters but even better contact hitters than Kendrick and over-the-hill-Lollins. We lost 2 big heavy bats and have done nothing to replace them. Offence has been a major problem..why we lost the world series yes it was pitching but the runs never came through for us either..there was so much pressure on the Starter day in and day out. Run support was a disaster all year and in the playoffs and while our pitching and D has improved..our biggest weakness has gotten weaker


Dodgers were 2nd in the NL in runs to Colorado. It was not a problem.


NO I CARE NOT WHAT THE STATS TELL ME VISHNU!! I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES 182 GAMES IT WAS NEVER THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME!!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:57 pm    Post subject:

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lol, The Dodgers got better with contact and defensive play. Saying they stand pat and did nothing is incorrect. People just want 30 plus HR hitters everywhere and it dont work that way, you need to get guys on base to create runs. While the Dodgers scored alot of runs like Big Mac said we left about a 100 runs on base that should have been RBI's for hitters. We were one of the if not the worst team with RISP. This hopefully fixes that.

We couldnt possibly have a worst bullpen then last year. We got Joc coming in and hopefully playing up to his hype. We also got Seagar getting a shot and i expect Julio Urias to be called up after the all star game sometime if he's tearing it up in the minors like he did. You just dont keep him down there if he's dominating. The Dodgers broght up Kershaw at a very young age and Urias is further along in his development then Kershaw was at the same age imo.


ITs goign to be a very exciting year, but the Padre's got alot better. They are making a run at it and it should be fun!


Umm no..Kemp and Hanley are not only better power hitters but even better contact hitters than Kendrick and over-the-hill-Lollins. We lost 2 big heavy bats and have done nothing to replace them. Offence has been a major problem..why we lost the world series yes it was pitching but the runs never came through for us either..there was so much pressure on the Starter day in and day out. Run support was a disaster all year and in the playoffs and while our pitching and D has improved..our biggest weakness has gotten weaker


Dodgers were 2nd in the NL in runs to Colorado. It was not a problem.


NO I CARE NOT WHAT THE STATS TELL ME VISHNU!! I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES 182 GAMES IT WAS NEVER THERE AT THE RIGHT TIME!!


182 games? you counting spring training too? Runs were not some huge problem. The offense was actually great. The biggest reason we lost was because the bullpen was atrocious.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:52 am    Post subject:

I tend to split the difference on this ^^^.

The Dodgers were good at scoring runs against the lessor competition, but when it counted, especially the first half or two-thirds of the season, they couldn't score when they needed to. As we know, they sucked from the seventh on. But their clutch hitting did improve and it really seemed to be relative to Kemp's play.

This new version will not intimate pitchers like last year's club, but it might manufacture runs better by not having so many all or nothing (the typical) swings.

But, of course, the bully was an even greater problem and with Jansen out 8-12 weeks and no real set-up guy, I'm not optimistic that it will be that much better, if at all, this year.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:37 am    Post subject:

I just don't understand the outrage over not bringing Hanley back in particular. What were they supposed to do with him? He's the worst defensive shortstop in baseball. We can't have him DH. The outfield is already crowded so we couldn't move him there like the Red Sox did. Leaving him at short blocks our best prospect and a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. On top of all that, he always gets hurt. The only option I see is moving him to 3rd where he'll still get hurt and be awful defensively as well.

Rollins works because he can play short for a year and we'll bring up CS in 2016.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:47 am    Post subject:

The outrage with Hanley(I'm with you btw, I agree that we had to let him go especially based on his injury history) is about losing his offense. People aren't looking at the whole picture, if they did then they would understand letting Hanley go was completely logical. Kemp OTOH, remains to be seen if he's over his injuries or or FO predicted correctly that he will always have something keeping him sidelined.

I still think we should have dumped Ethier even for basically nothing because offensively, that's what he's given us the past 2 seasons: basically nothing.

This team can win it all because it is baseball and any good team can get hot and run the table in October but I still think we need a managerial change. This style hasn't worked. The players have the ability to get over the hump but they need a manager that can show them how.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:14 am    Post subject:

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I tend to split the difference on this ^^^.

The Dodgers were good at scoring runs against the lessor competition, but when it counted, especially the first half or two-thirds of the season, they couldn't score when they needed to. As we know, they sucked from the seventh on. But their clutch hitting did improve and it really seemed to be relative to Kemp's play.

This new version will not intimate pitchers like last year's club, but it might manufacture runs better by not having so many all or nothing (the typical) swings.

But, of course, the bully was an even greater problem and with Jansen out 8-12 weeks and no real set-up guy, I'm not optimistic that it will be that much better, if at all, this year.


I agree with you here on all points. As noted many times in last year's thread, all our runs were scored en masse against crap teams in particular games, which masked our issues offensively if you were to look at just the stats.

Hanley I can understand letting go seeing as we don't have a spare OF/DH spot. However, I can understand the outrage with Kemp considering the 2nd half surge that I believe was a direct result of his change in swing. Especially with the likes of Ethier and Crawford still on this roster (makes that trade-to-be with Arizona all the more painful). Hard to tell for Kemp in terms of production. Even if he stays healthy and turned the clock back to 2011, it'll be hard for him to produce in Petco.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject:

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I just don't understand the outrage over not bringing Hanley back in particular. What were they supposed to do with him? He's the worst defensive shortstop in baseball. We can't have him DH. The outfield is already crowded so we couldn't move him there like the Red Sox did. Leaving him at short blocks our best prospect and a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. On top of all that, he always gets hurt. The only option I see is moving him to 3rd where he'll still get hurt and be awful defensively as well.

Rollins works because he can play short for a year and we'll bring up CS in 2016.


No outrage here Vishnu over losing Hanley. It had to be done, we had no choice and I understand that. No way we pay him the money he got and he was a huge liability defensively. The kemp move remains to be seen..he was on of my favorites and I really liked what he did with his attitude and swing in the 2nd half of the season but I kind of understand why he was shipped. Regardless, I still feel we need some help in that lineup. Sure on paper it looks decent, I just don't know how it will pan out, especially since I feel we got weaker with the bat.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 6:04 pm    Post subject:

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I just don't understand the outrage over not bringing Hanley back in particular. What were they supposed to do with him? He's the worst defensive shortstop in baseball. We can't have him DH. The outfield is already crowded so we couldn't move him there like the Red Sox did. Leaving him at short blocks our best prospect and a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. On top of all that, he always gets hurt. The only option I see is moving him to 3rd where he'll still get hurt and be awful defensively as well.

Rollins works because he can play short for a year and we'll bring up CS in 2016.


No outrage here Vishnu over losing Hanley. It had to be done, we had no choice and I understand that. No way we pay him the money he got and he was a huge liability defensively. The kemp move remains to be seen..he was on of my favorites and I really liked what he did with his attitude and swing in the 2nd half of the season but I kind of understand why he was shipped. Regardless, I still feel we need some help in that lineup. Sure on paper it looks decent, I just don't know how it will pan out, especially since I feel we got weaker with the bat.


Yeah, I loved Kemp too, especially when his offense was on, but like Hanley he was arguably the worst defensive outfielder in baseball. Especially at a corner spot, almost no amount of offense is worth the amount of runs he gave up, which is why his bWar last year was only 1.1.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:27 pm    Post subject:

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I just don't understand the outrage over not bringing Hanley back in particular. What were they supposed to do with him? He's the worst defensive shortstop in baseball. We can't have him DH. The outfield is already crowded so we couldn't move him there like the Red Sox did. Leaving him at short blocks our best prospect and a top 10 prospect in all of baseball. On top of all that, he always gets hurt. The only option I see is moving him to 3rd where he'll still get hurt and be awful defensively as well.

Rollins works because he can play short for a year and we'll bring up CS in 2016.


No outrage here Vishnu over losing Hanley. It had to be done, we had no choice and I understand that. No way we pay him the money he got and he was a huge liability defensively. The kemp move remains to be seen..he was on of my favorites and I really liked what he did with his attitude and swing in the 2nd half of the season but I kind of understand why he was shipped. Regardless, I still feel we need some help in that lineup. Sure on paper it looks decent, I just don't know how it will pan out, especially since I feel we got weaker with the bat.


In terms of right handed power, we're sorely lacking and that's even if Puig rediscovers his.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:48 pm    Post subject:

Dodgers sign Brandon Beachy! Great signing! One of my biggest worries has been starting rotation depth. Injuries are sure to occur and there needs to be some solid replacement options. As the sixth starter, though I'm not sure that would be how the Dodgers characterize him, he should come in handy.

Though he will miss the start of the season, he could be ready sometime early on, maybe two months in, as the following article says he plans to be throwing off a mound in spring training.

http://www.mlbdailyrumors.com/the-latest/dodgers-sign-brandon-beachy-to-one-year-deal-with-option-for-2016
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