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Andre2K
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Sniper008 wrote: | | I wish laker fans including magic hadn't ran MDA out of town. I don't agree with Byron's outdated philosophy |
MDA wouldn't have solved our terrible defense... |
but his offense was much better and we were atleast competitive. What does this current coach hang his hat on?
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cheesysapien
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| JIFISH wrote: | I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Lakers did against this team, considering how they played in the preseason. Our team (OK, my team, since everyone here seems to have disowned the current roster) did well in the first half, and this was the second of back to back games so its not surprising to me that we didn't play as well in the second half. They still kept it competitive, and they appear (to me) to be making progress.
I'd like it better if we weren't 0 and 4, but considering the schedule the Lakers were given by the NBA, I'm optimistic. |
Cool JF. I am too, but sometimes it could be discouraging to come here and see a lot of people just spilling out negative things ...
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Honeybadger81
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| leor_77 wrote: | | You can't be competitive in this league without legit 3-pt shooting. Just in fast-break points and 3-pt shooting, they outscored us by about 40. |
this team characteristically no three no fast break... |
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Jeggs
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| sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs.  |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
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We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs. |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
ZOOM! |
We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
I'm worried Byron is going to wear Kobe down as our record gets worse and worse....aka the MDA effect where he puts the star player in for almost the entire game until he breaks down. |
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Jeggs
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| ^doubtful. I think the big picture is just to improve as a team and get better. I believe Scott when he said he won't kill kObe just to win games. The team has gotten better overall with each game minus Sacre. I think with the disabled player exception we can make a move and find another guy to bring in that will help this team get over the hump. |
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Vin
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Kobe wasn't playing smart tonight.
One highlight play and one hot streak in the 3rd doesn't make up for all the bad decisions he made during this game. It's his job to keep the guys involved.
It was stupid for Byron scott to up his minutes the game before and to play him as much as he did tonight aswell. Kobe's playing too many minutes, it's obvious. |
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JrR31
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| zePokar wrote: | Kobe wasn't playing smart tonight.
One highlight play and one hot streak in the 3rd doesn't make up for all the bad decisions he made during this game. It's his job to keep the guys involved.
It was stupid for Byron scott to up his minutes the game before and to play him as much as he did tonight aswell. Kobe's playing too many minutes, it's obvious. |
I thought Lin had the worse game of his Laker career today. Yesterday was Kobe now it's Lin ( actually Kobe first half was a joke). Insane moves in the paint by Jeremy got caught up either lost the ball or his footing.
Anyone on the Warriors roster anyone of them is a threat there's like 2 or 3 players. I am looking at you Klay, iquodala, Curry who were shooting the lights out. Had high percentage shots and looks.
The sad reality is Lakers needs needs more than Kobe and Hill. Someone else needs to step up. |
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Lakers combination of front court lose us the game.
Even if they're Slow they shouldn't be Static
Static on offence make our back court take low percentage shoots the whole game. |
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Tonnny
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| zePokar wrote: | Kobe wasn't playing smart tonight.
One highlight play and one hot streak in the 3rd doesn't make up for all the bad decisions he made during this game. It's his job to keep the guys involved.
It was stupid for Byron scott to up his minutes the game before and to play him as much as he did tonight aswell. Kobe's playing too many minutes, it's obvious. |
He only got 1 assist while 7 the game before.
He tried so hard to come out from his shooting slump and have done it. But ruining the team flow and stop beautiful team basketball of 1st quarter.
Kobe is always the contagious guy, when he is playing team basketball, everyone too. When he is not, no one can stop him and team basketball disappeared.
Everyone will have an off night, when Kobe keep doing this, Lakers is going to suffer. |
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catman2u
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| Dwight+Harden wrote: | | autoprt wrote: | | neither lin nor price made a basket. our pg's need to average at least 15pts a game for us to have a chance each game. |
This is lin, goes 0-3 or 0-4 and gets scared to shoot because he thinks he's going to get benched
Lin's going to have about 20 games(shooting 2-5) like this |
Part of the problem is the offensive system. Lin didn't seen any open looks from 3 GS had the middle bottled up so he had no lanes to drive. |
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drzucchini
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| Tonnny wrote: | | Kobe is always the contagious guy, when he is playing team basketball, everyone too. When he is not, no one can stop him and team basketball disappeared. |
Points are points. The team gave up 127, and that should be the issue. |
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lakersken80
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| Sniper008 wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Sniper008 wrote: | | I wish laker fans including magic hadn't ran MDA out of town. I don't agree with Byron's outdated philosophy |
MDA wouldn't have solved our terrible defense... |
but his offense was much better and we were atleast competitive. What does this current coach hang his hat on? |
Define competitive...we were the worst Los Angeles Lakers team in history under MDA. |
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cheesysapien
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THE_TWELFTH
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Can't stop smh at the fact that no other team has even played 4 games this season, let alone against the likes of our level of competetition.
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Jeggs
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| We had a couple of nice defensive sequences actually, we just couldn't maintain that level of defensive intensity. Were going to play a team that will have a bad shooting night, and that is going to be our first win. |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | We had a couple of nice defensive sequences actually, we just couldn't maintain that level of defensive intensity. Were going to play a team that will have a bad shooting night, and that is going to be our first win. |
We are last in points allowed. LAST.
I agree we have to pray that a couple of teams playing back-to-back have a bad shooting night...and our defense steps up. I don't even think D'Antoni ranked last in points allowed. |
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Vin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Jeggs wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs. |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
ZOOM! |
We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
Stop calling that game a good game for Kobe standards. He was horrible for three quarters and was good one quarter when he got really hot but completely forgot he had teammates and litteraly took every shots down the court.
I put this loss on Kobe. I expect the others to have bad games and be inconsistent, he should show the way every night and if he's tired he doesn't have to jack up 28 shots... |
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| cheesysapien wrote: | | JIFISH wrote: | I was pleasantly surprised by how well the Lakers did against this team, considering how they played in the preseason. Our team (OK, my team, since everyone here seems to have disowned the current roster) did well in the first half, and this was the second of back to back games so its not surprising to me that we didn't play as well in the second half. They still kept it competitive, and they appear (to me) to be making progress.
I'd like it better if we weren't 0 and 4, but considering the schedule the Lakers were given by the NBA, I'm optimistic. |
Cool JF. I am too, but sometimes it could be discouraging to come here and see a lot of people just spilling out negative things ... |
For as long as I've been coming here there have always been what we used to call the "Chicken Littles"---even when we had Phil coaching Kobe and Shaq, believe it or not.
And when we didn't fourpeat against the Pistons, they finally got to say "See? I told you!" 
Me? I'm not enough of an expert to know how badly the team is going to do before the season starts.
So I just have to wait until the season ends to see how the team did.
And that's what I plan on doing this season as well. 
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| zePokar wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs. |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
ZOOM! |
We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
Stop calling that game a good game for Kobe standards. He was horrible for three quarters and was good one quarter when he got really hot but completely forgot he had teammates and litteraly took every shots down the court.
I put this loss on Kobe. I expect the others to have bad games and be inconsistent, he should show the way every night and if he's tired he doesn't have to jack up 28 shots... |
Yeah, it's all kobe's fault they lost by 23. you people are ridiculous. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| zePokar wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs. |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
ZOOM! |
We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
Stop calling that game a good game for Kobe standards. He was horrible for three quarters and was good one quarter when he got really hot but completely forgot he had teammates and litteraly took every shots down the court.
I put this loss on Kobe. I expect the others to have bad games and be inconsistent, he should show the way every night and if he's tired he doesn't have to jack up 28 shots... |
They lost because the Warriors are a much better team, it had nothing to do with anything Kobe did or didn't do.
Kobeball is not going to win them many games this year however. Their best chance of winning is if he plays like he played the first 3 quarters against the Clippers. If the whole team is clicking, they can be competitive. Kobe shouldn't be expected to beat teams on his own anymore, nor should he be trying to. |
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Vin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Yoki24 wrote: | | zePokar wrote: | | Jeggs wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | fafan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | At least Kobe had a good game. |
12-28, 1-6 for 3s, 3-6 FTM, 7 turn overs. |
I believe he's putiing Kobe's play in perspective.
Playing a 4th game, in 5 nights, on the back end of a back to back, after a hard fought game against the Clippers, against the young, fresh legs of teh Warriors....
Taking all that into consideration, than yes, Kobe had a "good" game.
Those numbers in a vacuum, then Kobe was just decent.
Tired legs led to tired basketball for the whole team, down the stretch.
Where the Lakers had to really work for their points, the Warriors ran their offense almost seamlessly. That's the difference between a Laker team trying to find their identity, and a Warrior team with their identity firmly established.
ZOOM! |
We are talking the 4th game of the regular season here...off an Achilles injury...on a back to back game...with byron just starting to ease his minutes up to 36mpg.
Kobe has been amazing putting everything into perspective...and he's only going to get better with each game. |
Stop calling that game a good game for Kobe standards. He was horrible for three quarters and was good one quarter when he got really hot but completely forgot he had teammates and litteraly took every shots down the court.
I put this loss on Kobe. I expect the others to have bad games and be inconsistent, he should show the way every night and if he's tired he doesn't have to jack up 28 shots... |
Yeah, it's all kobe's fault they lost by 23. you people are ridiculous. |
The team fell asleep watching Kobe chucking. The game was close in the first half and it wasn't because of him. The least he can do when he gets hot and commands double team is share the ball. And I love Kobe but 12/28 and 6 TO is pretty terrible. |
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Andre2K
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I agree with both Treble Clef and zePokar, Kobe freezing out his teammates trying to win a game by himself is a recipe for disaster not only will it deplete their confidence and team morale but it will wear Kobe out and make him unable to perform when we do need him to help close teams out in the 4th quarter
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Tonnny
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Everyone got selfish gene inside, Kobe just let it dominant in this game. Hero ball may win you a game, but never a championship. That's the difference between LBJ and Melo. Kobe in this game is even worse than Melo and Harden.
After 19 years in the NBA, Kobe still can't play team basketball consistently. He should never be compared to MJ, and even LBJ is doing better than him on it. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Tonnny wrote: | | Everyone got selfish gene inside, Kobe just let it dominant in this game. Hero ball may win you a game, but never a championship. That's the difference between LBJ and Melo. Kobe in this game is even worse than Melo and Harden. |
Brilliant. And, yet, out of all the players mentioned, Kobe has experienced the most success. I guess "hero ball" isn't the kiss of death after all. |
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