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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:41 pm    Post subject: LAKERS -at- PELICANS - 11-12-14 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Browbeaten… The 109-102 final score didn’t tell the story. The 60-points in the paint for the Pelicans, however, starts to paint the picture.

The Lakers struggled with the quick counterstrikes from the Pelicans, losing the foot race with Anthony Davis on a number of occasions. In the half court, they were late to rotate or help the helpers, and the paint was open for business.

“That was probably the worse defense we’ve played, preseason all the way to this particular point,” Scott said. I don’t know if I’d agree with that, but it was extremely soft.

Despite leading by 5 at one point in the second quarter, the Lakers faded late in the first half giving up a 10-0. When the third wore on, the Pelicans built up a 13-point. That ballooned another 10 points in the fourth quarter and the Lakers fell to an unfamiliar 1-7 to start the season.

“We’ve got to get to the point where we are just tired of playing like this,” Scott said.

Kobe -- -- “I’ll probably stop shooting bail out shots. I’ll just swing it,” Kobe semi-joked after the game. In the first quarter, he dug the Lakers out of an early hole with three three’s in a row. He had an efficient first quarter before going cold after that. Sometimes this offense reminds me of how poorly we created shots when Mike Brown first took over. Kobe had some very inefficient looks out of those sets. It’s on him not to take some of these shots, but too often we are working against a loaded up defense and forced to long jumpers as the clock runs down. If we aren’t scoring off our defense or one or two sets we have in the half court, we have very little effective execution. Kobe went 5-21 shooting after a 5-7 start. He led the team with just 5 assists. Wasn’t thrilled with some of Kobe’s rotations to help plug the lane defensively. The Stats: He scored 33 points on 10-28 shooting (5-11 from three, 8-8 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 5 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 1 foul in 36 minutes. He was a -14. The Action: He hit Lin cutting on the give and go for the layup. Quick layup off a rim run to get low position. He lost his man but settled for the turnaround instead of attacking and missed. He made a tech FT. He was hit on a three with no call and missed. He worked the dribble, crossed over, spun and banked the pull-up jumper (looked very fluid on that). He sank a wing three working first off of the split play on the strong side and cycling over to take a pass weakside. He swished a wing three off a high screen next time down. He faced up on the sideline next time down and swished the sideline three. He missed a leaning bank looking for a whistle after getting a man in the air. He got tapped on a corner three at the buzzer. He swiped the ball on the inbounds, pushed it up, posted up, pumped several times and hit the wing jumper. He attacked the paint, got hit in the face and got no call on the layup miss. He missed an elbow turnaround. He was “blocked” (a ton of arm hit on that shot) on a pull-up jumper. He missed an elbow jumper. He missed a wing three with the shotclock low. He had 16 points on 6-15 shooting (3-6 from three) at the half. Second Half: He was called for a travel on a pivot (weak call). He missed a long pull-up jumper (dunk the other way), not good shot selection. He kicked out to Lin for the three. He bricked badly trying to shoot over Davis. He drained a wing three up against the shotclock. He attacked off the three line next time down and drew FTs in the paint, he made both. He drew the D and kicked out to Wes for the three. He faced up but quickly attacked off that and scored the layup on the baseline drive (looked like his old self on that one). He missed an elbow turnaround on a busted play. He missed a wing three. He missed a layup at the front of the rim he should have had (wanted the FTs). He attacked and was blocked. He scooped up a loose ball, pushed it out and drew FTs, he made both. Back in and he sank a three on his first shot, right over the defender. He missed a three next time down. He up-faked to get his man in the air and hit the And-1, 17-footer, he made the FT. He hit Boozer for the open 17-footer. He missed a three with a man all over him. He spun through a double team off the dribble and drew FTs, he made both.

Lin -- -- Jeremy highlighted the weakside defense as failing tonight with all the points in the paint. Not a lot of helping the helper. Not a lot of help in transition. A couple of nice challenges by Lin on his man defensively, getting a block on one. He also had a couple of steals. Offensively, a bit of a dull game from Lin (by dull, I mean it didn’t have its sharp edge to it when he’s at his best). Again, like with Kobe, the sets we’re running were pretty easily defended, and Davis made life much harder on everyone. Watch some of the Spurs sets in the next game. They cycle through their offense well and get good looks late in the shotclock whereas the Lakers are continually challenged to make tough shots. The Stats: He scored 15 points on 4-11 shooting (1-3 from three, 6-6 from the line) to go with 4 boards, 4 assists, 2 steals, 1 block, 1 turnover and no fouls in 34 minutes. He was a -9. The Action: He reversed off the give and go with Kobe. He missed a wing three on a rare post kickout. He lost the handle in the lane, turnover, layup the other way. Perfect outlet to Kobe who sealed his man on a rim run and scored a layup a second later. He stripped a big under the hoop to get a stop. He probed then choked the open 7-footer on the baseline, got to hit those. He drew an illegal D tech on the high pick and roll. He attacked off the Kobe kickout, drew the D and wrapped a tough pass around a defender to Hill for the dunk before falling down (total whiff by Davis on the block attempt). Second Half: He missed an easy open bank shot after losing his man. He caught the D sleeping on a push up and swished the 17-footer. He attacked the paint with speed and missed the layup, wanting the whistle that never came. He attacked the paint, stopped on a dime, up-faked and got hammered for FTs, he made both. He swished a three on a Kobe kickout. Excellent defensive challenge recovering to his man off the horns split sequence to force a bricked layup. He missed a wing three. He attacked the paint and fed it back to Boozer for the score. He attacked in early offense and drew FTs in the paint, he made both. Nice rejection of a drive at the rim. He drew FTs with a second left on the shotclock on a pumpfake, he made both. He attacked the paint and missed the tough one in a crowd but Davis tapped it in. He was blocked on a drive. He swiped the ball and took it the distance for a garbage-time score.

Hill -- -- Our interior D was all scrambled. He didn’t have a double-double tonight. If he’s not getting that, it’s probably a sub par game from him. The Laker bigs were completely overshadowed by Anthony Davis’s game: 25 points on 12-16 shooting, 12 boards and 6 blocks. Yikes. He beat our bigs down court in transition a number of times. That’s just hustle points. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 4-9 shooting (2-3 from the line) to go with 8 boards (3 offensive), 2 assists, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 32 minutes. He was a -16. The Action: He was blocked on a jumphook off the offensive board. He missed a flat pull-up jumper at the FT line. He cleaned up a Kobe missed jumper with a putback. Next time down he faced up and missed the sideline jumper. He didn’t protect a defensive board and it was stripped off him (chin those). He slammed off the drive and dish setup by Lin. Second Half: He sank a 21-footer off a busted play. He attacked baseline, stopped, pivoted around his man and scored the And-1 reverse, he made the FT. He ball-faked and missed the 20-footer. Dumb pass to Wes who was trailing in the backcourt, turnover on the backcourt violation. He was fouled on a loose ball for FTs.

Boozer -- -- Second night of the back-to-back hasn’t been good for Boozer so far this season. Tonight, he came up with a strong 11-point first half, helping lift that second unit. The rotations keeping Sacre out of the mix. The team did a good job looking for him in that stretch for pick and pops. Boozer is also pretty effective at mixing things up and attacking for layups. Our interior D, though. Ouch. Meanwhile on the other end of the floor, Anthony Davis had 6 blocks and probably just as many alterations that forced the Lakers into bad situations. The Stats: He scored 16 points on 6-13 shooting (4-6 from the line) to go with 6 boards, 2 steals, 2 turnovers an 2 fouls in 34 minutes. He was a -15. The Action: Forced a post-up pass to Kobe in bad spacing, turnover. He missed a baseline turnaround. He drew FTs on a drop step between a couple of bigmen, he made both. He fumbled the ball away in transition, layup the other way. He battled for a miss and scored off the glass. Sweet face-up jab-step move to lose his man, he was then fouled on the layup, he made one FT. He attacked off the two-man game down the lane and scored the lefty layup. He got tapped on an open FT jumper, just crawled out. He swished the 16-footer on the same two-man game on his next touch. He swished the baseline jumper off the two-man game with Kobe. He attacked off the high-post split play and missed a layup. He was blocked from behind on a pull-up. He had 11 points on 4-9 shooting at the half. Second Half: He bricked badly trying to shoot over Davis. He poked the ball away from his man to ignite a break. He sank an open 17-footer when Kobe spotted him. He attacked from the perimeter and drew FTs at the rim, he made one. He attacked off the Lin dish in the lane and scored the layup. He served one up for an easy block in the lane.

Johnson -- -- He had a decent start in the game, but faded pretty much with everyone else. He’s got to be a guy to impose his energy on an opponent. We badly needed that tonight in the second half. The Lakers went 7-21 from three, Wes was responsible for 1-5 of that. The Stats: He scored 10 points on 4-9 shooting (1-5 from three, 1-1 from the line) to go with 3 boards, 2 blocks and 2 fouls in 33 minutes. He was a -14. The Action: He sank a pull-up wing jumper off the triangle. He changed directions on the dribble, attacked baseline and scored the And-1 layup over Evans, he made the FT. He missed a corner three. He missed a tip in attempt right at the front of the rim. He missed a wing three. He blocked a jumper on one end, then missed the open three on the other. He fumbled a defensive board out of bounds after trying to push it up court. He hit a pumping jumper from the top of the key at the halftime buzzer. Second Half: He drained an open wing three on the Kobe kickout. Way short on a good look at a wing three.

Davis -- -- Guy named Davis blocked 8 shots in this game and grabbed 23 boards. Our had 2 and 11 of those. Not bad. Unfortunately, he was on the other end of getting his shot blocked a couple of times. Nearly a double-double from his as he played 27 minutes. We’ve staggered our rotations so that Davis comes in early and Boozer spends a little more time with the second unit. Kelly may be back for Friday’s game, so who knows what we do then. Wish we ran more two-man game with Davis. We had a couple of those sequences tonight, but it’s been a formula for success for the team more often than not. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-6 shooting (2-2 from the line) to go with 11 boards (3 offensive), 2 blocks, 2 turnovers and 2 fouls in 27 minutes. He was a +7. The Action: He was blocked by Davis on the post up. He scooped up a loose ball on a post entry and powered it past his man for the layup. He swatted his man with a vocal “Get that (bleep) outta here!” He took the pass off the two-man game and scored a layup around his man. He rejected a shot on the other end to ignite a breakaway. Dumb foul on the offensive glass with 3 seconds left in the half to give up FTs. Second Half: He was called for a travel in the post on a mismatch against a guard, looked indecisive on the move. He was blocked from behind on a layup attempt. He fumbled a bounce pass away off the two-man game. He tapped in a Lin miss. He was hit on shot in the paint with no call, got it back and drew the whistle, he made both FTs.

Price -- -- He was given a flagrant-2 hitting the head on a shot challenge and was ejected down by 17 in the fourth. It didn’t seem like a dirty play but he did hit the head as he came from behind. “I don’t know what a flagrant-1 or flagrant-2 is anyway,” Scott said. So true. Just doesn’t seem terribly consistent sometimes. Much better job orchestrating the offense for the second unit in their first half run for Price. They went to Boozer for a number of scores and actually extended the lead slightly during that stretch. In the second half, we got steamrolled. The Stats: He didn’t score on 0-2 shooting from three to go with 2 boards, 3 assists, 1 steal, 1 turnover and 3 fouls in 17 minutes. He was a -3. The Action: He hit Boozer on the two-man game for the open jumper. Second Half: He missed a sideline three.

Clarkson -- -- Good minutes from Clarkson. I didn’t like his invisible stretch of ball in the last one. He imposed himself on the game when he was out there tonight, scoring 8 points in just 14 minutes on 4 shots. He hit a floater, a layup on the break, an outside shot and got to the line. If we’re going to go 1-7, I’d sure like to see him out there more. He needs the experience, especially on the defensive end where he has the tools, but needs the education. The Stats: He scored 8 points on 3-4 shooting (2-4 from the line) to go with 1 foul in 14 minutes. He was a +5. The Action: He missed a baseline pull-up jumper on his first touch. He probed baseline, kept the dribble alive, circled back into the lane and hit the floater. Second Half: He pushed out the break with speed and drew FTs, he made one. He pushed the ball up, surveyed the floor and scored a layup between defenders. He got out on the break and was hit for FTs, he made one again. He drained a long corner jumper off the inbounds pass.

Henry -- -- He was outplayed by Clarkson tonight. If the two are battling for a spot in the rotation right now, X still has a ways to go. Nick is coming back soon. “Tuesday is my goal,” Nick Young said. He’ll be scrimmaging on Saturday. This should hopefully reduce the minutes of Wes and will probably cut into one of Clarkson or X’s minutes. The Stats: He scored 2 points on 1-2 shooting (0-2 from the line) to go with 1 assist, 1 steal and 1 foul in 10 minutes. He was a +14. The Action: He attacked the paint and couldn’t finish at the rim. He grabbed a blocked shot, pushed it out and scored the layup. Second Half: He attacked in transition and drew FTs, he missed both. He swiped a ball and hit Clarkson in transition for FTs.

Sacre -- -- He got in for some late garbage-time action and had a steal. His +10 during garbage time shows how the final score was a little deceptive. It wasn’t that close. The Stats: He didn’t shoot or score, had 1 steal and no fouls in 3 minutes. He was a +10. The Action: He did not play in the first half. Second Half: Nothing to report.

Scott -- -- The Lakers gave up a number of easy ones early on and Byron called timeout down 13-7… Down 5, he brought in Davis for Boozer with 5 minutes left… The Lakers trailed by 7 when Lin sat for Price… Kobe tied it up with three straight threes… Xavier in for Wes… With 14 points from Kobe the Lakers led 25-23 after the first… He started a Davis, Boozer, Henry, Clarkson, Price unit… They did a better job running some offense through Boozer in this stretch than last night… Back in with the starters, nearly wholesale changes midway through the quarter… They faded a bit to close the half. A 10-0 run for the Pelicans… The Lakers trailed 51-48 at the half. Just 4 turnovers for the Lakers… Pelicans getting separation early… Down 10, Scott called a timeout midway through the quarter. Lakers looking very sluggish… He sat Boozer and Lin for Davis and Price down 5… The Lakers trailed 85-72 heading into the fourth. Hard to dig out of a hole on the second night of the back-to-back… He started a Davis, Boozer, Clarkson, Lin, Price unit… Zone and we give up two corner threes to start the quarter… Down 20 quickly… He sat Clarkson for Wes. Good minutes by Clarkson… Down 18, he finally brought in Sacre with 3 minutes left… He sat Kobe for Clarkson finally… The Lakers lost the points in the paint battle 60-34… Asked if the defense was fixable, Scott said “I don’t know yet.”…
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:48 pm    Post subject:

THX DB GO LAKERS
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 10:58 pm    Post subject:

Rough second half. Davis is a (bleep) beast.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:00 pm    Post subject:

As usual, thanks DB. Hopefully we will smiley face soon
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:15 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB,

Just how many more b2b are we expecting?
But seriously, would have preferred KB to shoot less - his current TS% is around 48.4% whereas would have preferred LIN to shoot more (current TS% is around 62%).

so far we still haven't got the defensive side of the game worked out - hopefully, the team start to click - defense is never a one-on-one - the team has to be able to help each other out.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:30 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 11:44 pm    Post subject:

Thanks DB! Defense was the culprit tonight. I agree with Scott about that. Transition D was not effective at all. The Pelicans had wide open threes all night long. And as you said they failed to help the helper or rotate. Hope we can make improvements in those areas.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:50 am    Post subject:

Thx DB.

Maybe they were tired from the back to back, but the bigs really let us down on defense- not getting back in transition and being stuck in mud whenever anyone came into the lane. It's frustrating that Byron Scott is going to wait at least 15 games before doing what everyone already knows he going to do, which is giving Ed Davis a shot to start. As our only rim protector and most efficient offensive player, it's inevitable- just delayed because of something Byron decided beforehand. I just don't know why "veteran respect" is worth taking extra losses. (And yes, I believe that they are trying to win)

Aside from that, there needs to be a real emphasis on running guys off the 3 pt line and not helping one pass away off shooters. The previous two games were against teams that weren't great at shooting, which is probably why the defense looked better. Unfortunately, those kind of teams are becoming rarer and rarer in the NBA.

On offense, it was strange that they would change up the things they run so much on the second game of a back to back (no practice in between).
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 3:01 am    Post subject:

Lakers#1Team wrote:
Thanks DB! Defense was the culprit tonight. I agree with Scott about that. Transition D was not effective at all. The Pelicans had wide open threes all night long. And as you said they failed to help the helper or rotate. Hope we can make improvements in those areas.


Completely agree regd the defence.

It seemed like almost everytime the Pelicans had the ball, they scored.

Not sure what one can do. New personnel?
Maybe swap Davis, the better defender in and Boozer out.

But one things for sure, the defence has to improve.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:33 am    Post subject:

Your analysis is always a good read. What do you think we can do to improve the defense? I screamed at the TV each time our bigs have some defense lapse... Do we simply lack the defensive talents? Or it is more of a issue of their mind set?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:31 am    Post subject:

browbeaten

didn't make the reference right away very apropos when playing davis
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:09 am    Post subject:

While I agree our defense is attrocious, our bench play is even worse. Second night in a row our bench was outscored by almost double (NO bench 36, LAL bench 18). Can't wait for Swaggy P to get back.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:31 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. My computer went crazy and the game had no sound on my phone. I really hate Windows Update sometimes.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:45 am    Post subject:

Anthony Davis -- -- r u kiddin' me

thanks DB!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:09 am    Post subject:

Thanks DB. "Browbeaten"

I really look forward to seeing Nick Young back at the 3 position. I'm hopeful Kelly can contribute. Kobe needs someone to pass to when he's getting swarmed.

Still I'm not sure what's going to fix the defensive lapses and lack of proper rotations, helping the helper, closing out in transition, etc.

Is Xavier damaged goods after the last knee injury? Is Quincy Miller still in play?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:19 am    Post subject:

DB - thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:42 am    Post subject:

cdg wrote:
Lakers#1Team wrote:
Thanks DB! Defense was the culprit tonight. I agree with Scott about that. Transition D was not effective at all. The Pelicans had wide open threes all night long. And as you said they failed to help the helper or rotate. Hope we can make improvements in those areas.


Completely agree regd the defence.

It seemed like almost everytime the Pelicans had the ball, they scored.

Not sure what one can do. New personnel?
Maybe swap Davis, the better defender in and Boozer out.

But one things for sure, the defence has to improve.


I would like to see more Davis with Lin. In the preseason and a few times during this nitghtmare they have successfully played a two man game as DB relates. The Lakers need some easy scores.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:43 am    Post subject:

TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Thanks DB. "Browbeaten"

I really look forward to seeing Nick Young back at the 3 position. I'm hopeful Kelly can contribute. Kobe needs someone to pass to when he's getting swarmed.

Still I'm not sure what's going to fix the defensive lapses and lack of proper rotations, helping the helper, closing out in transition, etc.

Is Xavier damaged goods after the last knee injury? Is Quincy Miller still in play?


If the O is more successful perhaps it will reduce the amount of easy transition points scored by the other team?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:51 am    Post subject:

Alloy wrote:
Your analysis is always a good read. What do you think we can do to improve the defense? I screamed at the TV each time our bigs have some defense lapse... Do we simply lack the defensive talents? Or it is more of a issue of their mind set?


I think Scott wants the bigs to be more aggressive initially on the screens, but sometimes they are late to react or just tired. Additionally, they've got to hustle back. No excuse for not getting back fast. If someone is too slow to get back, Scott just say it must mean you're tired so I'm going to sit you. Having Kelly back I think will help to keep the fresh, plus he's a very good team defender.

The guards have also been late to help the helpers. Scott should just say the same thing. It must mean you're tired if you're consistently not doing it (Kobe included), so you need to rest.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 9:53 am    Post subject:

catman2u wrote:
TooMuchMajicBuss wrote:
Thanks DB. "Browbeaten"

I really look forward to seeing Nick Young back at the 3 position. I'm hopeful Kelly can contribute. Kobe needs someone to pass to when he's getting swarmed.

Still I'm not sure what's going to fix the defensive lapses and lack of proper rotations, helping the helper, closing out in transition, etc.

Is Xavier damaged goods after the last knee injury? Is Quincy Miller still in play?


If the O is more successful perhaps it will reduce the amount of easy transition points scored by the other team?


Long shots often lead to transition opportunities. I remember one of those Davis dunks last night came off a long jumper by Kobe on the wing. The more we can penetrate the D (with the pass, post, dribble), the better. If we settle, guys need to hustle because we'll get run on much easier.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject:

Browbeaten There should be an emoticon for that.

The offense looks very predictable and seems constructed to only get perimeter shots. Maybe it's the newness of the team, maybe not fully understanding or trusting the system, maybe tired legs.

Defense = yeesh!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 1:51 pm    Post subject:

3 pt shooting destroyed us. sure they could have guarded the paint better, but they cant let them destroy us in the paint AND on the 3 pt line...that barrage of 3's really was too much
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 2:35 pm    Post subject:

Few things to note.

Davis needs to start because our bigs are too soft. Both Boozer and Hill are not rebounders and (Boozer especially) doesn't play defense. Starting Davis will give our team at least a paint that is semi-guarded.

The thing that pisses me off about Boozer is not his no defense, no rebounds, no guarding opposing guards off of PNR. The thing that pisses me off the most is his contested 2 point jumpers he takes all day over passing. Sometimes, you just have to read what the defense gives you. Contested long 2 is the most inefficient shot in the game, and Boozer LOVES to take them. I have not seen him pass a ball back after he got his hands on it (except twice to Kobe).

This guy is the perfect representation of a negative asset with high points. When he gives us 16 points, it might look impressive, but there are so many downsides he gives us that it's actually not good. The most important downside he gives us besides the contested 2? The more he plays, the less Davis plays.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 8:15 pm    Post subject:

At one point Tony Allen had the same number of rebounds as Hill and Boozer together. That was sad.
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