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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | Hibbert tonight have 0 points , 5 rebounds and 0 blocks play 23 mins. I don't know why some of u here want to pay max money for such production  |
Who said they want the team to pay max money for him? |
he is still not worth 12-15 mil for such production. |
I don't think you have a good grasp on NBA salaries. |
Someone will overpay him and give him at least 12 mil. Nothing wrong to admit u make a mistake wanting a player produce zero points in 23 mins and want to pay him eight digits in salaries. Lucky u r not lakers GM LOL. |
He's going to be paid over $12m, likely $15m.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | Hibbert tonight have 0 points , 5 rebounds and 0 blocks play 23 mins. I don't know why some of u here want to pay max money for such production |
Who said they want the team to pay max money for him? |
he is still not worth 12-15 mil for such production. |
I don't think you have a good grasp on NBA salaries. |
Someone will overpay him and give him at least 12 mil. Nothing wrong to admit u make a mistake wanting a player produce zero points in 23 mins and want to pay him eight digits in salaries. Lucky u r not lakers GM LOL. |
He's going to be paid over $12m, likely $15m. |
Exactly. What he produce on the court is not worth his next contract or what his contract is paying him now. |
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Right, we can pay less for a no defense, no anchor Hill and continue to suck in the paint. We might be terrible, but at least we didn't overpay for a guy who could help us.
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| Do people think we could get Hibbert and R. Jackson with our cap space? |
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yinoma2001
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| SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | Do people think we could get Hibbert and R. Jackson with our cap space? |
Very possible from a cap standpoint.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Right, we can pay less for a no defense, no anchor Hill and continue to suck in the paint. We might be terrible, but at least we didn't overpay for a guy who could help us. |
Lakers overpay him for his shorter contract. 2 years contract with second year team option not what he produce on the court. U need to overpay guys to take shorter deal when he can get a longer deal elsewhere |
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| I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
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yinoma2001
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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low basketball IQ player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert.
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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
Koufos hasn't been able to average 20 mpg. Hibbert has played deep into the playoffs. Koufos is a nice backup.
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| Gallanari just tore his Meniscus* by the way |
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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
DRating is also a reflection of the overall team. Memphis is so much better overall than Indy.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | Do people think we could get Hibbert and R. Jackson with our cap space? |
Very possible from a cap standpoint. |
The more I think about it the more I like it. A defensive anchor and an aggressive attacking guard to take a load off Kobe. In 2016 we could sign one of the many young shooting guards to replace Kobe. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
Koufos hasn't been able to average 20 mpg. Hibbert has played deep into the playoffs. Koufos is a nice backup. |
Hibbert play more badly in the playoff than regular season. He only had one good playoff run .Koufos + another player is better than hibbert alone. Lakers need help at every position. U need to pay players for both end of the court not just one end if u pay more than 10 mil |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
Koufos hasn't been able to average 20 mpg. Hibbert has played deep into the playoffs. Koufos is a nice backup. |
Really ? Is David west better than anthony davis ? Deep playoff run mean nothing whether he is a good or bad player. |
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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
Koufos hasn't been able to average 20 mpg. Hibbert has played deep into the playoffs. Koufos is a nice backup. |
Hibbert play more badly in the playoff than regular season. He only had one good playoff run .Koufos + another player is better than hibbert alone. Lakers need help at every position. U need to pay players for both end of the court not just one end if u pay more than 10 mil |
Koufous is an 18-22 mpg center. Who is playing for the other 26 minutes? Koufous won't be cheap either, probably $6-7m/year.
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can the lakers get 1 of the RFA at deadline? would be great
get a max player then sign our own RFA. top 5 + Randle coming back
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
Koufos hasn't been able to average 20 mpg. Hibbert has played deep into the playoffs. Koufos is a nice backup. |
Hibbert play more badly in the playoff than regular season. He only had one good playoff run .Koufos + another player is better than hibbert alone. Lakers need help at every position. U need to pay players for both end of the court not just one end if u pay more than 10 mil |
Koufous is an 18-22 mpg center. Who is playing for the other 26 minutes? Koufous won't be cheap either, probably $6-7m/year. |
I would say 5-7, with Davis in the same range (or a little less). Could have a three headed center for as little as 10-12 mil.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
This is because he try to contest every shots at the rim and end up got himself in foul trouble. The reason why he got 0 points in 23 mins. Such a low bbq basketball player. U also underrate kosta Koufos defense. So far this season he has a better defensive rating points allowed per 100 possessions than hibbert. |
DRating is also a reflection of the overall team. Memphis is so much better overall than Indy. |
Worth noting that the bench d with koufos is better than the starting d with Marc.
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| concernLakerFan wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Right, we can pay less for a no defense, no anchor Hill and continue to suck in the paint. We might be terrible, but at least we didn't overpay for a guy who could help us. |
Lakers overpay him for his shorter contract. 2 years contract with second year team option not what he produce on the court. U need to overpay guys to take shorter deal when he can get a longer deal elsewhere |
The point is that Hill sucks as an anchor and you have to pay for someone who doesn't. Be it Hibbert, Lopez, Asik, Gasol. Those guys will likely be overpaid.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | concernLakerFan wrote: | | I rather pay kosta koufos for half the salary or lesser than hibbert and produce about the same as him. I can use the reminding cap space on other position. |
You are severely underrating Hibbert on defense. He is still an elite defender imo. |
True, though I am a fan of adding Koufos.
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | Gallanari just tore his Meniscus* by the way |
Hate to hear that.
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| SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | Do people think we could get Hibbert and R. Jackson with our cap space? |
Very possible from a cap standpoint. |
The more I think about it the more I like it. A defensive anchor and an aggressive attacking guard to take a load off Kobe. In 2016 we could sign one of the many young shooting guards to replace Kobe. |
Or draft one. There is one out there I would love to pick up.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote: | | Do people think we could get Hibbert and R. Jackson with our cap space? |
Very possible from a cap standpoint. |
The more I think about it the more I like it. A defensive anchor and an aggressive attacking guard to take a load off Kobe. In 2016 we could sign one of the many young shooting guards to replace Kobe. |
Or draft one. There is one out there I would love to pick up. |
I think we are assuming that we are out of the top 5 pick territory. Would take close to $28-29m to sign both Hibbert/RJax.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Kawhi is the one they need to pursue. Reportedly he is pissed they didn't extend him and I don't see the Spurs offering him the max. Call him at midnight, offer the max and let things fall where they fall. |
He's not "pissed off." He knows what's at stake here. Spurs want to be able to have $8-9m more in cap space. Sure, he was just the Finals MVP and wanted the 5 year max right away, but Spurs have explained their thought process. He seems fine with it now. It's a waste of time IMO. I'd rather try Butler instead. Popovich and Co. know the team will be build on Leonard's shoulders. |
There's no way Kawhi comes here. We are the philosophical antithesis of the Spurs. |
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