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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Nick the Quick wrote: | we need a center, whether it be gasol, asik, or jordon.
then we need a shooter, maybe dorrell wright and then pair him with his brother w/ our HOU pick. |
Add Winslow in the draft and it is a good of season. |
Towns/okafor + jimmy butler @14/15 and 8/7mil cap space
Gasol is out of reach and i just dont trust asik/jordan as they have 0offensive game and cant hit a 5ft shot.
In regular season u can survive but in post season it costs the spacing and just basically 4 on 5 game + the fouling strategy |
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I don't trust Towns/Okafor to defend in the NBA anytime soon. If you can sign an NBA anchor, you sign him. Plus none of them are restricted.
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Jim99187
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I don't trust Towns/Okafor to defend in the NBA anytime soon. If you can sign an NBA anchor, you sign him. Plus none of them are restricted. |
With 4 picks + randle coming we r not going to be anywhere near playoffs next yr
Would love put money on big with potential |
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[quote="Dave20"]Clarkson
Kobe
Butler
Randle
Okafor
This would be my ideal starting lineup. I know some might want Jackson but Clarkson has all the tools to be a good PG. He's already a better defender and spot up 3pt shooter then Lin and Jackson, he's quicker too and can guard two positions. The only thing that's stopping him is playing time.[/quotee]
I like your optimism but clarkson ain't starting next season. I think the lakers punted last off season in order to keep the pick. I think they will evaluate what's here (very little) and go after free agents that fit roles lacking on this years team, mainly scoring options and defense. Robin lopez is intriguing as a fa pick up. I think it really depends on who we trade for with that pick. I know alot of you will say rebuild through the draft. But this is the lakers we never build through the draft it takes too long. There are no magic, kobe, lebron, wiggins type instant all star talent in this draft. The fo said we are in yr 1 of a 3 yr plan. We will use that top 5 pick to trade for an impact player at either point guard, small forward, or power forward( though i highly doubt they trade for a 4 klove will possibly be a fa). We may trade for a package of players( like possibly lavine,brewer,&dieng for top 5,jhill,and clarkson). Unfortunately we all just have to trust the process and take our lumps on our way to redemption. We will be relevant 15-16 season. |
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The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows.
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Jim99187
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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Wow. 126th? Damn.
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Jim99187
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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Wow. 126th? Damn. |
hey dude, come on now: Lebron makes his teammates better..like LO winning 6th ManOY |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:46 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | I don't trust Towns/Okafor to defend in the NBA anytime soon. If you can sign an NBA anchor, you sign him. Plus none of them are restricted. |
With 4 picks + randle coming we r not going to be anywhere near playoffs next yr
Would love put money on big with potential |
I agree about the playoffs, I think we shoot for .500 and the playoffs in 2016-2017.
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| Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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Wow. 126th? Damn. |
hey dude, come on now: Lebron makes his teammates better..like LO winning 6th ManOY |
No one makes their teammates better except themselves.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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Wow. 126th? Damn. |
hey dude, come on now: Lebron makes his teammates better..like LO winning 6th ManOY |
No one makes their teammates better except themselves. |
calm down tiger, that was a sarcastic joke |
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hopefully we get the hardship exemption and can give a look to Miller this year. We're going to need to penny pinch at either PG, SF or C next year.
If we draft a stud C that helps because you don't have to spend big in FA on it. Or if Miller develops he could be signed for cheap allowing for more to be spent on a RFA or re-signing Davis |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Jim99187 wrote: |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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This yet another case where stats clearly lie.
We all know that Lebron makes players better.
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| Gimme_the_rock wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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This yet another case where stats clearly lie.
We all know that Lebron makes players better. |
Well, I think Kyrie/Waiters have a lot more to do with that IMO.
Though LBJ is coming off as a whining puissant.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Jim99187 wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | The more I see Butler play, the more I think he will be kept by Chicago. They can easily pawn off other assets (Pau, Gibson, McBuckets) to keep him. With Rose going down, Chicago knows it needs a consistent perimeter threat and he is that. I'd pretty much scratch him off from our list.
RJax remains a possibility, but knowing our FO, they don't go for RFAs usually.
So likely our targets will remain:
1. Rondo, Love, MGasol.
2. Who knows. |
maybe love will look around:
| Quote: | Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine · 6h 6 hours ago
Another one from @ESPNStatsInfo that jumps off the page: Cleveland's Kevin Love, 15th in Usage Rate last season, is down to 126th leaguewide |
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Wow. 126th? Damn. |
That is surprising. And I am not a fan of Love, I think that what we are seeing now is more along the lines of the type of player he really is. Playing on a bad team just upped his numbers.
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| Maybe Love is just similar to Vucevic. Fantastic numbers on bad teams. However, we are a bad team, so hopefully Kevin wants to come here next year rather than being Bron's caddy. |
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| alohalakers wrote: | | Maybe Love is just similar to Vucevic. Fantastic numbers on bad teams. However, we are a bad team, so hopefully Kevin wants to come here next year rather than being Bron's caddy. |
Even if Love wants to come here I hope the FO don't go after him. He is very expensive and brings zero defense which is why the Cavs are struggling in even in the east. I'd rather go after Jordan or Gasol (Marc).
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Maybe we can get Chandler to come home for a couple of years.
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Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:18 pm Post subject: |
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson |
Solid.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson |
If I'm playing the RFA game, I go after Butler before Jackson.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
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If I'm playing the RFA game, I go after Butler before Jackson. |
I think butler is a waste of time. Chicago will match him even if they have to shed taj or another player. He's their best perimeter player. RJax is far more attainable and will be a deveststing blow to okc and their chances of keeping durant.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson |
If I'm playing the RFA game, I go after Butler before Jackson. |
I think butler is a waste of time. Chicago will match him even if they have to shed taj or another player. He's their best perimeter player. RJax is far more attainable and will be a deveststing blow to okc and their chances of keeping durant. |
I think OKC will look to try and sign and trade Jackson first instead of losing him for nothing in return.
We have greater needs at C and SF than at PG.
If we can improve at those positions then I'm fine with re-signing Lin for 5-7 million. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson |
If I'm playing the RFA game, I go after Butler before Jackson. |
It seems a forgone conclusion Butler will be returning to the Bulld one way or the other. They can afford to match a max offer sheet & still be under the Lux Tax. We know how OKC is on the other hand & I wouldn't be surprised if they look to deal Jackson when KD & Russ returns
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | Best case IMO is of course Okafor or Towns in the draft and Reggie Jackson is the best/realistic option at PG for the Lakers this off season. Jackson>Knight
Hopefully resign Davis to a deal around 2y10M or the room exception if we can get a quality wing like a Wes Matthews. Jimmy Butler would be perfect but the Bulls will match anything I believe
Okafor/Davis
Randle/Kelly
FA/Young
Kobe/Clarkson
Jackson |
If I'm playing the RFA game, I go after Butler before Jackson. |
I think butler is a waste of time. Chicago will match him even if they have to shed taj or another player. He's their best perimeter player. RJax is far more attainable and will be a deveststing blow to okc and their chances of keeping durant. |
Jackson should be our target this off season to pair with Randle and Okafor. If we manage to keep Ed davis that should be a core that entices free agents to consider coming here. |
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