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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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so we passed on Dorrell Wright for MWP....okay.... |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Shows how far Wright's game has fallen _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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farzadkavari Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:33 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | Shows how far Wright's game has fallen |
Or it shows how desperate the front office has gotten.. |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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farzadkavari wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Shows how far Wright's game has fallen |
Or it shows how desperate the front office has gotten.. |
huh? |
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dcarter4kobe Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:48 am Post subject: |
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I would of preferred Prince for that vet SF role.
Also Andre Miller as the vet guard off the bench. Both have LA roots both went to similar situation in Minny for the vets min _________________ "He's a Zen master, so he can speak to you, and he doesn't need a microphone; you can hear him in your head, 'Ron, don't shoot, don't shoot.' Whatever, pow, three. I love the Zen, though." |
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Jim99187 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:53 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would of preferred Prince for that vet SF role.
Also Andre Miller as the vet guard off the bench. Both have LA roots both went to similar situation in Minny for the vets min |
there is no difference between Metta and Price. both are running on reserve with nothing to offer oncourt.
I prefer metta cause he is already working out with Randle and playing with young guys |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 10:39 am Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would of preferred Prince for that vet SF role.
Also Andre Miller as the vet guard off the bench. Both have LA roots both went to similar situation in Minny for the vets min |
Yeah. As you see I'm all about getting the LA guys. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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THE_DAGGER Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would of preferred Prince for that vet SF role.
Also Andre Miller as the vet guard off the bench. Both have LA roots both went to similar situation in Minny for the vets min |
I definitely thought Miller should have been considered.
The LA roots help. But, I think the Lakers roots is more in play here with MWP.
He actually won a championship with us and is familiar with the organization and culture. |
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farzadkavari Starting Rotation
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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THE_DAGGER wrote: | dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would of preferred Prince for that vet SF role.
Also Andre Miller as the vet guard off the bench. Both have LA roots both went to similar situation in Minny for the vets min |
I definitely thought Miller should have been considered.
The LA roots help. But, I think the Lakers roots is more in play here with MWP.
He actually won a championship with us and is familiar with the organization and culture. |
This would very damaging the lakers image if they do sign MWP. I still remember him missing easy layups in his last 2 years playing in LA. Giving 0 on offense. It was hard to watch. |
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Rawr Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. _________________ You are either in or on your way to the NBA Finals. |
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pio2u Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. |
I'll trust the FO on this one.
Lou is a talented player and he will definitely contribute more than his share of excitement, experience and effort towards the success of the team. |
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gng930 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. |
My best guess? They felt there were no other wings on the market worth the rest of the cap space after the Hibbert deal, so they committed to playing Kobe at SF and looked for someone to fill the veteran guard role. If Danny Green wasn't already committed or Deng opted out and remained available I think things move along differently. |
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Jackobe Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. |
I'm with you on this one.
to be honest, I'm confused about the Lou Will signing.
Lou is another combo guard that is a volume scorer....
We already have Nick who is similar, and DLo, JC two combo guards.
It does seems somewhat like a panic move, just to sign a Sixth man of the year to calm the fan base down.
A lot people say they trust the FO, but then why am I hearing all the whining about Nick Young and stuffs like that....
I also hope Lou Will and the FO prove me wrong big time. |
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Laker's Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2015 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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Lou just won 6th man last year. He's had other really good years too. Its not an over the top move, but Lou can play. The 6th man field:
Player Team 1st Place (5 pts) 2nd Place (3 pts) 3rd Place (1 pt) Total
Lou Williams Toronto 78 34 10 502
Isaiah Thomas Boston 33 46 21 324
Jamal Crawford L.A. Clippers 8 18 37 131
Andre Iguodala Golden State 7 16 17 100
Tristan Thompson Cleveland -- 6 15 33
Nikola Mirotic Chicago 1 4 7 24
Marreese Speights Golden State 1 2 9 20
Corey Brewer Houston 1 1 4 12
Manu Ginobili San Antonio -- 3 3 12
Taj Gibson Chicago 1 -- 3 8 |
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Jackobe wrote: | Rawr wrote: | Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. |
I'm with you on this one.
to be honest, I'm confused about the Lou Will signing.
Lou is another combo guard that is a volume scorer....
We already have Nick who is similar, and DLo, JC two combo guards.
It does seems somewhat like a panic move, just to sign a Sixth man of the year to calm the fan base down.
A lot people say they trust the FO, but then why am I hearing all the whining about Nick Young and stuffs like that....
I also hope Lou Will and the FO prove me wrong big time. |
Maybe they had a deal in place to dump Young but the other party backed out - who knows? And right now we need to stack up on assets, and he's a good one to have.
I don't have a problem with the signing. He's a scorer, and we'll need these type of players when the young kids feel the heat. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Unlike Swaggy Lou can actually create shots for others. Averaged around 4 apg for a few years. Last year Toronto asked him to gun. Swaggy has like 4 assists....total in his whole career. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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fiendishoc Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:07 am Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Unlike Swaggy Lou can actually create shots for others. Averaged around 4 apg for a few years. Last year Toronto asked him to gun. Swaggy has like 4 assists....total in his whole career. |
One thing I noticed in their March game against us, Lou puts a ton of pressure on the defense, something that Swaggy can't do. Guys are literally backpedaling against him, which can open up other things even if he doesn't take it himself. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Anther element to William's game that is being overlooked is his on ball defense. Not a lockdown defender but his quickness and hard work creates pressure on the other teams PG. Averages a steal a game.
I think Williams is a very good signing. Partly because it makes Young expendable. Perhaps another part of the reasoning by the FO. Just no takers to this point. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 5:56 am Post subject: |
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Yeah I don't see the Swaggy/Lou "overlap". Very different players. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 7:21 am Post subject: |
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Lou will be here after Kobe retires. Maybe they didn't like next year's free agent scorers, so they decided to add Lou now so he has a year to play with Kobe. Sets up for an easy transition next season. I don't think it'll be hard to move his contract if it doesn't work out with the Lakers. He's a low risk asset. |
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Jim99187 wrote: | farzadkavari wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | Shows how far Wright's game has fallen |
Or it shows how desperate the front office has gotten.. |
huh? |
Exactly, that makes no sense. But hey, expect fans to overreact to every rumor out there. Wright won't be a Laker and neither will Artest. The only desperation is from fans overreacting. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:41 am Post subject: |
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Rawr wrote: | Is anybody else really disappointed in the Lou Williams signing? I've been trying to understand it and I just don't. Why did we spend so much money and years on a guy with bad shooting %'s who's main skill is isolation scoring? We already have Nick Young for 3 more years, so why did we go out and get another bench chucker?
It seems like it must have been a panic move when we couldn't get any other vets and I'm disappointed that the F.O. didn't have the fortitude to just realize they have to develop the youth. Relying on veterans who don't play the right way just because they are veterans seems unbelievably short sighted.
I love the Brandon Bass signing because the guy is a real professional and plays within himself and does what he has to to contribute. He'll set an excellent example for Randle. Lou doesn't seem to fit that mold at all.
I hope he proves everything I've said wrong and becomes a great passer off the bench as the lead backup PG, just to be clear. |
Lou is nothing like Young, he is a guard who can score and can create for others. Young is just a chucker. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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fansincemagic Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Lou Williams at 7M a year is a value signing for many reasons already mentioned. Young may end up in Byrons doghouse if he isn't dealt so I don't think the duplication argument (if wrongly labled as volume scorers only) carries much weight. The man is a starter quality player and makes the backcourt more of a strength. |
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a2j1m Star Player
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Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I heard Lou passed on the max in Sac to play here? |
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Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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^^^fake |
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